the entire Ivy League, a really good 3 game MTE, and 2 Auburn-level high majors is a schedule I could get excited about.
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8legs1dream
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Let's hope they get a 6th team and thinking with the lineup so far, possibly might get tickets for only $5. 😉
All of this. Tired of the excuses as to why it didn't get done. Losers make excuses, winners/top performers just get the job done.
Any good teams? Maybe something good could come of this situation. Wishing for the stars I know.
At a glance, I only see Baylor and Oregon among P5 teams that haven't announced and may still have a slot free. There are a few others that haven't announced for some reason, but they all appear to be full based on previous reporting: NC State, Arkansas, Oklahoma.
what if we just have the Giper write "DUKE" in shaky handwritten letters somewhere in the middle of our schedule and post it online with a winning score in our favor. I bet the committee would never know and Duke would still have a NET of 3 so they wouldn't care.
Boom, schedule solver complete.
Boom, schedule solver complete.
8legs1dream
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If you are agreeing to a multi year scheduling deal like that I wonder what the reasoning is behind having them all be neutral court matchups. Is it for gaming the NET mostly?
Baylor–Gonzaga was already known, just not the exact date and location (had been rumored for Vegas or Mexico City). Baylor still has a spot open.
Meanwhile, programs like Cornell, Lehigh, and Citadel have officially announced their schedules in recent days, confirming they won't be in our MTE. I think Dartmouth, Saint Peter's, and Delaware State are the only programs left who are not already lined up in an MTE or have not announced their schedule, but all three have reported (or announced by their opponents) game dates conflicting with the Gulf Coast Showcase.
Meanwhile, programs like Cornell, Lehigh, and Citadel have officially announced their schedules in recent days, confirming they won't be in our MTE. I think Dartmouth, Saint Peter's, and Delaware State are the only programs left who are not already lined up in an MTE or have not announced their schedule, but all three have reported (or announced by their opponents) game dates conflicting with the Gulf Coast Showcase.
I need to correct the above post. Women coming off a successful season. Men coming off of an almost successful season. I guess that's the difference between a good schedule and a piss poor one. That or the difference between Roussell and Mooney, but we're not allowed to talk about that.
Delaware State is the only school left that isn’t known to either be in an MTE or is skipping one. I suspect they’re skipping, but either way, they have another game already scheduled during our MTE.
Rocco did miss a few others that opted out of MTEs this year…Wagner, Central Connecticut, Coppin State.
8legs1dream
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Would someone voluntarily do that when it would screw up their schedule? You’d think 3 games that can’t be replaced at this point. Harsh…tho I guess possible. If we can do that then let’s boot lasalle from A10 too while we’re at it.
Maybe more likely they go to 4 days instead of 3. But w 5 teams that means 1 team plays all 4 days and also repeating a game? it was my understanding there would be no math. Also idk if any of teams r not at the max # of games already or if someone wants to drop say a Mount Olive. Who knows if that is agreeable either.
I was only slightly joking on the local d2/d3 coming onboard as “sponsor” of the mte like Chaninade in Hawaii & be the 6th team. Then they can fight over who avoids that matchup. Tho with the popularity of those games maybe they’d be fighting to play it instead.
Either way sounds like a cluster f.
Dropping to a two-game MTE is the only solution for 5 teams. All teams must play the same number of games, so an odd number of teams doesn't work for three games.
If somebody got booted or voluntarily left to bring it down to 4, that team would only have to add one game to their schedule, as they'd only be able to have a max of 29 without an MTE. Granted, even one game may be difficult to add at this point, but it's easier than adding three.
If we did stick with 5 and drop to two games, we could all add an additional non-MTE game, as we'd still be allowed 31 total. That could involve 4 of the 5 teams from the event pairing up for two non-MTE games.
If somebody got booted or voluntarily left to bring it down to 4, that team would only have to add one game to their schedule, as they'd only be able to have a max of 29 without an MTE. Granted, even one game may be difficult to add at this point, but it's easier than adding three.
If we did stick with 5 and drop to two games, we could all add an additional non-MTE game, as we'd still be allowed 31 total. That could involve 4 of the 5 teams from the event pairing up for two non-MTE games.
SF, you deserve some $$ from the athletic office bc they are certainly copying your homework here.
Thanks. makes sense has to be same # of games but didn't the ncaa already abandon the MTE rules in the Player Era Festival? That has Alabama & Texas A&M from SEC and it was not a recent conference switch deal. Tho this is a mid major tourney & a bad one at that so I don't expect any waiver coming like if it were the big boys. It's kind of funny that we could drop to 2 games and then go & play a non-MTE neutral game against 1 of those teams at like the University of Tampa a day later and work around the rules anyway.
I can't see anyone voluntarily dropping 3 games (or getting booted) and replacing with 1 that is almost assuredly going to be a worse game. They signed up partially I assume because they wanted 31 games. Maybe if they have $ trouble and it would save them a lot. We'll see u never know. I think more likely we're getting Florida Southwestern State College on the horn pronto. Or we are adding a 6th team out there you've missed.
& when do we announce your hiring SF....let's get u on the Philly Bob show. We won't mention the alum discount ur giving. Tho needed bc I'm told Lunardi is still on the payroll as scheduling czar emeritus. For fear of retribution in case we r back on the bubble ever again.
they found a loophole where the same conference teams are in separate brackets and the brackets don't play each other.
waiver or loophole it's really the same thing. the ncaa allowed the loophole = waiver. imo. Certainly that wasn't the intention of the ncaa for single site MTE to set up essentially 2 MTEs within 1 larger MTE. Now they can break the rule of not being able to play in the same MTE only once every 4 years too. Those same teams can next year go back and play in the same Players Era Festival and get the NIL money. Just in the other bracket. The following year change the name of the brackets. New bracket names! Different MTE! Easy to find self serving loopholes. Its kinda absurd but unfortunately reality.
Yes, the workaround on that is claiming they are two separate MTEs. NCAA didn't like it, but apparently didn't/couldn't do anything about it.
The NCAA has an FAQ about some of these aspects like considering whether an MTE is different from a previous for satisfying the four-year rule and about filing for a waiver from the one-per-conference rule if realignments breaches that.
The NCAA has an FAQ about some of these aspects like considering whether an MTE is different from a previous for satisfying the four-year rule and about filing for a waiver from the one-per-conference rule if realignments breaches that.
Whether we win or lose in this tournament, we have already lost just by being in it in the first place.
agreed. find better MTE's that won't have problems filling out the lineup.
The positive is this should serve as a wakeup call for the future. Get out of your comfort zone, and don't rely on this one connection for OOC tourneys.
no so sure.
this wasn't a Gazalle Group MTE, I don't think.
this may force us back to those. at least they filled their brackets.
18 year tenured coaching staff's shouldn't need wake up calls to execute on fundamental aspects of their job.
Wasn’t Gazalle
This is the group management:
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Gazelle just doesn't host many full-fledged MTEs. Sunshine Slam (decent but not great fields) and Boardwalk Battle (mid-majors) are really the only two big eight-team ones. Legends Classic is an option...now just a four-team, two-game MTE but with good names and usually an A-10 team (St. Joe's in there this year). We last played in it in 2019, so are eligible again. We were just in Sunshine Slam last year, so can't do it again until 2027.
They also run some of the P5-hosted ones as one-offs, like the Marquette one this year that Mason is in.
They also run some of the P5-hosted ones as one-offs, like the Marquette one this year that Mason is in.
I thought everyone knew this Gulf Coast one isn't Gazelle. Who don't even have the best ones, yet those are the best ones we can ever get.
That's the point. we are basically a one-trick pony with Gazelle, run by Mooney's agent, and when those options are limited we are sh!t out of luck.
It's amazing to me a 20-year coach has so little MTE connections.
That's the point. we are basically a one-trick pony with Gazelle, run by Mooney's agent, and when those options are limited we are sh!t out of luck.
It's amazing to me a 20-year coach has so little MTE connections.
8legs1dream
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it's not Emperor Mooney's fault! Scheduling is hard you guys! He needs more time.
we should hire a bracketologist to tell us who to schedule. just spit balling.
8legs1dream
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ChatGPT could have probably done a better job this season than they did.
8legs1dream
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Hard to schedule with our high academic standards!
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