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won't last long, the unions will get an injunction but the mayor of scranton, pa reduced the pay of all city employees to minimum wage, $7.25, until they can get their debt down and spending in line. the federal govt should be watching, taking notes and start doing the same type of thing until they get their financial house in order. in another story, unions, in the past 6 years, have spent $4.4 billion on political activities, of course, they are not a special interest group, ahem.

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lawyers are much worse than the banks, $1.4 billion last year to help disability claims with social security, for example, that is just thievery to set up a system that rejects, automatically about 90% of all initial claims so that the legal eagles can get their share. also CA, broke and financially inept, CA, is getting ready to spend billions to build a high-speed rail from LA to SF. bet they make their state pension funds buy all of the bonds, who else would invest in that stupid endeavor. have we started our high-speed rail from petersburg to DC, another idiotic move. govts all over the country are broke, bankrupt, yet they are undertaking assinine projects which will serve such a small % of people. just wish we could elect common sense individuals who understand finance, economics and how destructive debt is. europe is on the edge now and we could be coming to an end-game in the next year or less and that will determine how bad this is going to be.
 
there is corruption in almost every level of all govts, some are professionals, chicago, new orleans but it is rampant. mismanagement is just another word for spending too much, whether it is at home in our personal budgets or in govt or in business or getting involved in endeavors which an entity should not be involved with at all. in business, when an entity gets involved with something they should have left to others, they can sell it and get out of it but when govt does it, we can never get rid of it, has to stay in place, draining all of OUR money. there should never be anything that is "hands off", should be able to go after any program that is stupid, inefficient, broke, something we should not be involved with in the first place. when programs become "hands off", we are fixin to lose, we meaning, the people.
 
The city should also reduce its payments to contractors and other private businesses it has contracts with by a corresponding rate.
 
this is called a depression which is what we are most likely in but has been papered over by printing money. now europe and america are out of money so cannot keep up the charade much longer.
 
most of the time, you will find, like scranton, obligations to retirees, obtained by unions, cause this. scranton has to pay $15million per year to cover retiree healthcare alone, not to count all of the retirement and other benefits as well. same way with general motors, they pay out so much money to people who no longer work, they are doomed. these contracts were put on these entities by unions who said we want it or will strike, they caved and now they are caving. what wisconsin did earlier, was to save themselves from the same fate. town, cities, states are in the same position, they cannot afford the liabilities they have on their shoulders. if you looked at the unfunded liabilities that our fed govt has, you would move to cuba, unreal, and this is on top of the actual debt you see on tv. the govt will not allow a corporation to be in business if they don't fund, in some manner, their future liabilities but they just go merrily along funding nothing but adding to the huge number already there every day. go to the "debt clock" and just look at every category and watch the numbers fly and just tell me, does not matter if you majored in philosophy, journalism, english, if you think we can just talk our way out of this. something has to happen, not sustainable just by printing money and even if the economy turns, we get more people working, paying taxes, won't dent what we owe. we have to change this or the fed will be greece, spain, italy, ireland, scranton, san bernadino.
 
another reason that GM should have declared bankruptcy and not let the govt do it. just read where the govt, after they took over and declared bankruptcy, paid $26.5 billion to keep the "goldplated" retirement and other benefits the uaw had in place. there were no cuts in pay or reduction in benefits for the unions (wonder why, maybe some payback for all the political spending) so the real problems that gm and chrysler had, still exist. if gm or chrysler had declared on their own, they could have eliminated all or part of these anchors which they were forced to enter into over the years. that is also money that the govt will never get back from their bailout of the auto industry.
 
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