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2024–25 schedule

We're now one of just seven teams from the top 10 conferences to not be linked to or officially announced as in an MTE.

AAC: Rice, Tulsa, UTSA
A-10: UR
MVC: Indiana State, Southern Illinois
WCC: Pepperdine

And we're one of 51 teams in all of D-I to not have word on an MTE yet.

Tell me what’s going on?
 
No question this is concerning. I wasn't too concerned 3 weeks ago, but hard not to be now, especially seeing so many garbage A-10 schedules out there. It's one thing to not have power teams on there yet, but what about some more quality mid majors? Shouldn't we have already locked down 2 or 3 more of those? I doubt Mooney, Hardt, or anyone associated with this could be happy with only having 6 games scheduled right now, and I would think we are trying like crazy to get some good games. What the heck is going on?
 
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I have 4 more days before my internal deadline about WTF is happening panic meter ratchets up. Hopefully by Friday we are discussing all the great surprise games we have, but yeah, the silence is concerning. A MTE with Pepperdine, Rice and a depleted Indiana State seems like it is right around the corner and it is less than inspiring coming off a league title season.

Yes, the A10 office needs to step up and schedule a conference rivalry challenge set to get top teams in the league at least one good game.

Scheduling is such a program by program thing, I imagine they rarely get involved but the landscape shift means they have to wake up.

FWIW, if we come in a with a really weak schedule, I will fully expect 12-1 minimum, regardless of who is on it. No excuses on winning if you fail at scheduling well.
 
I'm not quite in panic mode yet, because like others have alluded to in previous posts in this thread, we likely have 9-10 games scheduled currently and just haven't been reported yet. Historically, we've announced our schedule - even when we knew all/nearly all of the games beforehand through other media releases - in September.

What's concerning though and my worry is that our chances of getting top tier games are dwindling/gone. In years past, whenever we learned about us playing in a one-off marquee game or MTE, it was like 4-6 months before the season started. It would get leaked some how. Now, we haven't heard any of that and a lot of teams have already completed their non-conference schedule and posted them online. We have no confirmed MTE (when again all the mid & top tier ones get announced well in advanced) and we have heard no official word of any marquee games. Not good.
 
I'm just hoping for an away (or neutral site) non-conference game within 3 hours driving distance of NJ so I can add to my list of arenas in which I've seen the Spiders play. A modest request, I would think :)
 
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VCU's schedule is just ok. nothing special.

VCU advantage is they get 5 of their 6 best games at true neutral sites.

The Goo Moos schedule is solid enough...Marquette, Duke, ECU, JMU, Tulane, underated UNC-A, Penn, plus a couple more left. If they get 1 more good one it really elevates it.

But they're not Dayton St. Joes, Santa Clara, I'm sure there are a number of other really strong ones at high midmajor level. Not easy but it can be done. & something we should expect from "one of the top basketball programs in the nation"
 
No question this is concerning. I wasn't too concerned 3 weeks ago, but hard not to be now, especially seeing so many garbage A-10 schedules out there. It's one thing to not have power teams on there yet, but what about some more quality mid majors? Shouldn't we have already locked down 2 or 3 more of those? I doubt Mooney, Hardt, or anyone associated with this could be happy with only having 6 games scheduled right now, and I would think we are trying like crazy to get some good games. What the heck is going on?

it's definitely not 6. Less than 2 weeks ago it was 5 but nobody here knew about Bucknell. But it was a contracted game and their board knew we were coming. Just like it wasn't really 5 then, it isn't 6 now.
 
well last year we KNEW of all 13 OOC games (not all the dates) by 8/1/2023.
today is 8/12/2024 and we know of 6 (Charlotte, Bucknell, Belmont, W&M, VMI and FGCU). we're hoping Auburn is real.
I doubt we've ever known less at this point in the summer. that's not promising.

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  • JOC with a scheduling footnote in Quinn Ireland article. Mentions we’re hosting Lafayette (awkward for Quinn?) and that we have two more games to fill, but he doesn't have the Queens game reported by Rocco or the Siena campus game for Sunshine Slam. So by my count we're now complete...just need a few dates.

    11/8 VMI
    11/11 Siena (Sunshine Slam campus game)
    11/20 and 11/21 Sunshine Slam (two out of Colorado, UNLV, Florida St.)
    11//25 Queens
    11/29 at Wichita State
    12/6 at Northern Iowa
    12/9 vs. Florida (Sunrise)
    12/16 Charlotte
    12/21 Buffalo

    TBD at Boston College
    TBD W&M
    TBD Lafayette
 
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Cal and Air Force off the board.
where's the love from the Gazelle Group?!

we have seemingly been a one-trick pony with the Gazelle Group and MTEs. That's what u can get I guess when u do that. Heck I figured another Gazelle tourney was a lock considering the Mooney extension. Maybe Mooney fired him as agent tho I doubt it when he's arguably the best sports agent in the world handling Moon's contracts. But it still amazes me a 20 year vet coach can never get us into the best 3 game MTEs occasionally when we are enough of a name and 2-3 A10 schools are in those ones annually.
 
I'm just hoping for an away (or neutral site) non-conference game within 3 hours driving distance of NJ so I can add to my list of arenas in which I've seen the Spiders play. A modest request, I would think :)

u already have Bucknell. Can get there in or under 3 from a lot of places in Jersey.
 
Appalachian St went 25-6 with a 72 NET last year. Vermont went 26-6 with a 102 NET. Bradley said they were looking for a game and they went 21-11 with a 57 NET. If these type teams still need games, Let's go!!!!!!!
 
Samford (74 NET last year), Cornell (95), and Morehead St. (106) would be a pretty good MTE we could host.
I'd certainly take it at this point. that's probably best case scenario.
but outside of last year's strong NET rankings for those teams, there's not a "name" team in the bunch (or available in general). you have to wonder if their 2024-25 NETs revert back to the mean.
 
Samford (74 NET last year), Cornell (95), and Morehead St. (106) would be a pretty good MTE we could host.

I wouldn't call that pretty good. With the inventory remaining maybe. But all those teams should be worse this year. I would have the most confidence in Samford just because of their coach. Projections r harder now but some r out there like Torvik, and more will be coming. Granted I definitely understand going by last year NET because those r facts but I wouldn't rely on it either. I'm expecting a hosted MTE at this point but my hope is something has been misreported and we're substituted in. Wishful thinking I realzie but it happens occasionally.
 
Appalachian St went 25-6 with a 72 NET last year. Vermont went 26-6 with a 102 NET. Bradley said they were looking for a game and they went 21-11 with a 57 NET. If these type teams still need games, Let's go!!!!!!!
agreed, and I can't imagine any of those would argue against a home and home.
 
Samford (74 NET last year), Cornell (95), and Morehead St. (106) would be a pretty good MTE we could host. Or, LA Tech (99), Hofstra (112). Shoot, if no MTE, let's just play them.
in a very quick check, it seems that Samford had 6 seniors of their top 8 scorers and the other two who were underclassmen (top scorer and 3rd leading scorer) transferred to Kansas State and Miami, respectively. So they return - it seems - nothing from last year.

I didn't bother to check Cornell or any of the others after that.
 
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in a very quick check, it seems that Samford had 6 seniors of their top 8 scorers and the other two who were underclassmen (top scorer and 3rd leading scorer) transferred to Kansas State and Miami, respectively. So they return - it seems - nothing from last year.

I didn't bother to check Cornell or any of the others after that.
Same could be said about us. I read somewhere that we return 22% of our scoring from last year. We have 7 new scholarship players. With this day and age of basketball, this will become the norm. Reputation and history of past performances are a good - albeit not perfect - predictor of future success for teams. For instance, I expect Vermont to be a top 135 team given their history of success.
 
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agreed, and I can't imagine any of those would argue against a home and home.

I don't who said it, but u have to be careful of too many mid major H&Hs. buy game ideal and a few I think u could get as only a home game. we r better off taking buy road games against p5 teams imo. not enough upside with the H&H mids tho forced to take a couple.
 
I don't who said it, but u have to be careful of too many mid major H&Hs. buy game ideal and a few I think u could get as only a home game. we r better off taking buy road games against p5 teams imo. not enough upside with the H&H mids tho forced to take a couple.
well we can't seem to get any game against high majors home or away.
we'll buy the low majors.
but I don't think we're going to buy many good mid majors. they'll want a return home game just like us.
 
So, you sell the tourney on last year's results. Win both games and those wins will look good for awhile, maybe all year depending on how those teams do. Morehead St won 23, 23, 22, and 26 games the last 4 years. Samford has been at the top or near the top of a good Southern Conference the last 3 years....maybe they can reload.
 
Same could be said about us. I read somewhere that we return 22% of our scoring from last year. We have 7 new scholarship players. With this day and age of basketball, this will become the norm. Reputation and history of past performances are a good - albeit not perfect - predictor of future success for teams. For instance, I expect Vermont to be a top 135 team given their history of success.
My guess is Samford will be good again. Their coach returns and they added some talent from the portal.
 
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well we can't seem to get any game against high majors home or away.
we'll buy the low majors.
but I don't think we're going to buy many good mid majors. they'll want a return home game just like us.

FWIW a hosted MTE = buy game. so u r already saying come to UR without a return.

But take away the MTE stuff and yeah many will ask for a return game. & I'm not against some, if u expect to get a H&H with teams above u in pecking order u have to give some below imo which we do. But to a point, u also got to fight for just some home without return. idk who requires what, but b4 Samford got good last few years they were a buy game candidate. I think Cornell & Morehead State usually r. App State was a buy game for VCU a few years ago iirc. Bradley idk but the coach did say looking for away game, that could mean a return game following year idk. Vermont I'd say H&H due to their success. we gave W&M a series bc of history with schools and being local, JMU would require a H&H too. Bucknell while they have been bad, they used to be a lot better than some of those schools, and we got a 2 for 1. Maybe some of those it's a 2 for 1 too not a H&H.
 
The more of these coming out, the more it seems like all of the P6 leagues are following the Big 12 roadmap this year. Only play each other or play a bunch of Quad 4 cupcakes at home. Looks like a concerted effort to starve out the high quality mid majors from opportunities to get resume building wins. Maybe I am reading things wrong here.
AH, the light bulb went off.
 
We’re losing badly at this game.

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You're not wrong - but I've already seen the Spiders play at Sojka Pavilion (back in the Geriot days)....I'm greedy and want to add a new arena to my list
Maybe we will add Hofstra. They have a nice arena that seats over 5,000. 112 NET last year. They have won 27, 26, 21, 25, and 20 games their last 5 non covid years.
 
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Maybe we will add Hofstra. They have a nice arena that seats over 5,000. 112 NET last year. They have won 27, 26, 21, 25, and 20 games their last 5 non covid years.

I doubt we'd start a new series AT hofstra but do u think we owe them a game? we hosted them 2 years in a row in 20 and 21'. I thought 1 of them was essentially a buy game as part of a campus site MTE but idk. Hofstra is place we'd probably lose. If we gave Bucknell a 2 for 1 though, giving Hofstra a 2 for 1 is very possible. So maybe it's contracted. tho the 3 year gap between games would be unusual. which makes it seem like hofstra was a previous buy home game.
 
All I know is that I’m betting the under on the W total for every lower mid-major opponent we schedule, because they seem to all tank every year. Buffalo last year, Exhibit A. They had 20, 16, 19, 15 wins the four prior years, then we played them last year and they go 4-27. Garbage.
 
I really hope our staff is working some good games. If we are down to having to debate the merits of scheduling a home and home against Hofstra, you know things are bleak.

I'm not sure how in one year we went from 3 BCS games, 3 mid major match-ups, to sitting here in mid August with basically nothing on the OOC schedule.
 
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