Down one more spot to 88. We were better off not playing than playing and winning.
2021–22 NET Rankings
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Yeah, just wait until we play #309 Bucknell.
Says next update late December, so the answer appears to be yes.
We really need to destroy Bucknell or else we will fall farther, absolutely. A 30-point win keeps us where we are our bumps us up. A 10-point win and we probably fall 8 spots.
Let’s just win and let these darn ratings take care of themselves!!!
The ESPN basketball power index has the good guys at 45.
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8legs1dream
Team Manager
The ESPN basketball power index has the good guys at 45.
2023-24 %{view} Men's College Basketball Power Index - ESPN
View the 2023-24 %{view} Men's College Basketball power index on ESPN. The BPI is the best predictor of a team's performance of the season.
ah yes, BPI, the thing that ESPN created and nobody besides them cares about at all
Assuming we win vs. Bucknell - which we should, the team will have done what they needed to do to keep hopes alive since the 2 losses in the Bahamas. Our resume is good, but not great. We don't have a signature win to hang on to at this point. Right now - we will be hoping teams like Wofford and Northern Iowa do well in their leagues. Even hoping for our losses - to do well too. But given our position - I think we still need a top 2 finish in the A10 and likely 12 wins. We also need to beat the Bonnies and VCU at least 1 time as well. We can't run into a situation where we get to 12 wins, but we get swept from VCU and Bonnies.
Would have been better had we just won 2 more games - even if just the Utah State and Drake games - we would have been sitting better at this point, but overall - we still got a shot at this. Just need a strong A10 showing - which I think should be expected given the team we have.
Would have been better had we just won 2 more games - even if just the Utah State and Drake games - we would have been sitting better at this point, but overall - we still got a shot at this. Just need a strong A10 showing - which I think should be expected given the team we have.
We dipped two more spots to 90.
NC State dropped 45 spots, all the way to 175.
Davidson is up to 44.
NC State dropped 45 spots, all the way to 175.
Davidson is up to 44.
Thought we actually would have slipped more .. but may have been helped with toledo up 15 from 98 -> 83 and miss state up to 38 from 47.
Figured Toledo would rise nicely after they destroyed Marshall last night.
Idle Wofford slipped out of Q1 territory for us.
Idle Wofford slipped out of Q1 territory for us.
I'm not sure the NET rankings will matter for us this year. I think top 2 A-10 and 14-4 or better IC (which puts us at 23-8 with a Bucknell win) gets us a bid. Obviously, just in case, it would be best to avoid bad losses and get some Q1 wins in there along the way. But, I would rather be 23-8 (14-4 A-10) with a NET in the 50s than 22-9 (13-5 A-10) with a NET in the 40s. At 23-8, if we do not win the A-10 tourney, we finish with 9 losses, which just looks a heck of a lot better than 10 losses. 24-9 or 25-9 just looks way better than 23-10 or 24-10. Sure, still fun to keep an eye on them, but if we win 23 regular season games, our NET will be good enough.
Except the committee uses NET as part of its selection process. Of course it matters.
12-6 in league play leaves us no chance at a bid. 14-4 is the minimum requirement.
Right. That was a classic post from 4700. Hey, our NET blows, but don't worry guys, no one is looking at this year. And of course, his classic we just need to go 14-4 IC post follows, as if that shit is gonna happen. He will disappear for about a week after we lose to LaSalle.
Projecting out is such a fools errand as well. Just win the game in front of us. Today that is Bucknell.
8legs1dream
Team Manager
I’m not sure I know enough about the committee and how it works, but I would assume the NET helps determine who is in the conversation and then they debate the seeds and selection of teams. If we do as the other poster suggested and finish 1st or 2nd in the A10, this should be enough to get us into the conversation and I think will earn us at an large bid. Further, the human psychology that this team had their 2020 bid take from them only will help our eventual case in March.
disregard the ncaa’s own metric? Hmm. & if we r relying on human psychology well the human psychology of Keith Gill on selection committee trumps that. Do u think he’ll be an advocate for Richmond? I don’t.
look our resume stinks. I wish it didn’t but it does. I see lot of talk about getting to bubble. 14-4 may get u to bubble but who cares if bubble is burst. & that’s what would happen. Our mindset should be what gets u IN. We need to be targeting 15-3 or better. Yes that takes a remarkable run so better be stacking lot of wins in a row. Tho imo no way we play 18 league games which hurts us even further.
look our resume stinks. I wish it didn’t but it does. I see lot of talk about getting to bubble. 14-4 may get u to bubble but who cares if bubble is burst. & that’s what would happen. Our mindset should be what gets u IN. We need to be targeting 15-3 or better. Yes that takes a remarkable run so better be stacking lot of wins in a row. Tho imo no way we play 18 league games which hurts us even further.
Agreed VT, avoid bad losses like you said. As long as we go 14-4 and our 4 losses aren’t against GW, La Salle, Duquesne, St. Joe’s I think we will be in a good spot
And this is why the OOC is so important and was set up for success heading into league play. Sorry, but those 4 losses (or at least 2 of 4) hurt us badly and puts significant importance on league play. A better OOC w-l record against decent teams makes the selection a bit easier and justified. Now it’s league play and tournament with not much room for error.
Getting cozy with our friends...
77. VCU
78. Wofford
79. Richmond
80. Toledo
77. VCU
78. Wofford
79. Richmond
80. Toledo
It all depends what that 14-4 looks like. If we have a loss to GW and only a win or two against the top of A-10 (Bonnie, VCU, Dayton, Davidson) than no that isn't going to work.
Likewise, if we go through conference season with no losses to the anchors of the league and with multiple wins over the top of the league. I think a 23-8 record gives us strong consideration.
Let's be real though, with Covid, we aren't going to be playing an 18 game conference schedule, which makes projecting anything now, just glorified guesswork.
How about the good guys sweep Feces U, Davidson, SLU, the welders, and Dayton? And lose to Fordham, LaSalle and GW?
No chance of NCAA tournament in that scenario. Best part to our weak resume is no terrible losses. Losing to any of the 4 teams mentioned would obviously change that.
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Yes, it probably matters if we finish in the 70s. But, my point is I think it's all about wins for us. And, if we get to 23 regular season wins, our net will be good enough. Being a mid major, I would rather have 23 regular season wins and a net in the 50s than 21 or 22 and a net in the 40s. The power conference schools do not need as many wins, so their net is maybe more important if they are compared with other power conference schools. One thing to remember is the committee doesn't make choices based on the net. They use the net to define the quadrants, so our opponents' net rankings are way more important than our own.
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Me as well, me as well.
ITS ONLY DECEMBER
Looking forward to sleeping in May zzzzzzzzzzz
While I agree that 11-2 would look a lot better than 9-4 right now, with the A-10 where it is right now (a likely 2 or 3 at most bid league), 12-6 IC and a possible 4th place A-10 finish after going 11-2 would be worse than 14-4 IC after going 9-4. So, while OOC matters, what we do IC is more important.
8legs1dream
Team Manager
The great thing about the NET compared to the RPI is that it does't matter as much WHO you play, but HOW you perform against opponents. Wofford's NET won't go down just by virtue of playing weaker opponents as long as they perform well (high margin of victory) against the weak opponents. In the past a great team in a weak conference would get screwed by the RPI, that won't happen as much with NET.
