So frustrating. Lots of growing pains with this team. Hopefully they figure it out by conference play
Wichita State Game Thread - 11/17/2022
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That was one of the dumbest/laziest turnovers I’ve ever seen at the end of a game.
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Quinn thought some guy in the 7th row had the best look at that game tying three
Yeah that was just terrible to watch. Bailey had a terrible turnover.
We have a lot of problems. Defense is a huge one, but not the only one for sure.
The issue as it has been for years is that we have a lot of guys who have real strengths, but real weaknesses as well. And we really struggle to play to strengths and hide weaknesses. We are a system team at both ends and the system isn't designed for players we have - - - we force all guys into our system. This isn't new - - its the way we run our program. Its especially glaring early is seasons because the new guys aren't playing naturally and they don't know the system well enough yet either.
The issue as it has been for years is that we have a lot of guys who have real strengths, but real weaknesses as well. And we really struggle to play to strengths and hide weaknesses. We are a system team at both ends and the system isn't designed for players we have - - - we force all guys into our system. This isn't new - - its the way we run our program. Its especially glaring early is seasons because the new guys aren't playing naturally and they don't know the system well enough yet either.
Holding a team to 56 points on 41.7% shooting should be enough to win.
it won't. Mooney hit his NCAA Tournament quota and we will be mediocre for the next 10 years. Also, why was Bailey in during the late game stretch? Bring in your veteran in Goose to help execute instead of a guy who just had 4 minutes last game.
Also, this Shockers team is coming off a loss to Alcorn State. Terrible loss at home wtf are we doing
I think Witchita is an average team just like us. I think we will be around .500. That would be about right for a CM team after losing all the experience that we did (see 2012). Still think Quinn needs to be down low when in the game and we need more out of either Goose or Dji. Neither are a threat to score. I like Roche, but he isn't a great defender. However I think he has to play big minutes because we desperately need his shooting. It will never happen, but a zone might be a good fit for this team.
We just watched Mooney bball without 5th and 6 year starters to offset his horrendous coaching. Against the zone we are always doomed. No idea how to break it and we settle for perimeter shots only.
Don't even think for a second Wichita State is a good team. I don't think we've even played a Top 100 team yet have we?
Guy had butter fingers tonight. Dropped many passes and didn’t shoot well at all.
Well we have been coming out flat at the beginning of the game for 18 years now, so nothing was different tonight.
I am still looking at the 12 to 13 mark. We will see 26 more zone games.
I'll cut Nelson a brake. He's played 4 games as the the main point guard. Much more concerned about the lack of development in Goose and Dji. Both guys have been in the program multiple years. We didn't need their offense last year, but this year we do.
A Mooney question for you.
Does he tell, what is supposed to be a really good team, you played really badly?
Does he tell them that you don’t wander around outside the arch and hope you
can shooting 3’s ? Or does he make excuses?
Does he tell, what is supposed to be a really good team, you played really badly?
Does he tell them that you don’t wander around outside the arch and hope you
can shooting 3’s ? Or does he make excuses?
How can you say that? They probably thinking the same thing about us. We already got a quad 3 loss most likely.
He tells them to figure it out. After all they are pros. According to Mooney we competed
You didn’t catch the sarcasm. we aren’t beating Toledo or Syracuse
"Um yeah Bob, I think the team really competed tonight." Anyone else tired of hearing the same things over and over again. The players and fans deserve better than this.
Agree that Moon is trying to pound the round pegs in the square holes. Jaynel is going to have ups and downs, he will get more consistent as the season goes on. We need to run the offense through Bigs, Burton and Nelson.
Crabtree is the forgotten, invisible man. He is now practicing per BB. I actually think he can help. If he is healthy, he can stabilize and if he can shoot it this year could be a big spark.
Let's see, Syracuse is a well schooled zone defense team. What could go wrong?
Crabtree is the forgotten, invisible man. He is now practicing per BB. I actually think he can help. If he is healthy, he can stabilize and if he can shoot it this year could be a big spark.
Let's see, Syracuse is a well schooled zone defense team. What could go wrong?
Nelson let him have it a few times too which was odd b/c most of the times Quinn didn’t get a clean catch on one of his passes looked to be because of the lazy manner in which Nelson was getting them to him. Wasn’t great body language as a PG.
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