The competition thread

[97spiderfan]

Talk to me when VCU beats a real team. Yes, they've won 6 in a row, but there isn't one team in that 6 that will even be sniffing around a NIT bid this year. There win over Memphis early got some attention, but Memphis is just 6-4. They beat St. Joes yesterday handily, whose best (and really only) player was out with an injury.

 

[Spiders4ever]

They may hit us up with their depth this year. 3 solid bigs, 4 solid guards, 3 solid forwards. They go at least 11 deep. I guess we can see how they do against Davidson this week. Thing is, everyone talks about Bones, but they can have off games from him and still win. They are much better this year than last year.

 

[LionNation540]

Talk to me when VCU beats a real team. Yes, they've won 6 in a row, but there isn't one team in that 6 that will even be sniffing around a NIT bid this year. There win over Memphis early got some attention, but Memphis is just 6-4. They beat St. Joes yesterday handily, whose best (and really only) player was out with an injury.

Umm you lost to Hofstra at home. Pump the brakes a bit.

VCU was dominating JMU and simply stopped caring. It happens. JMU was a replacement for losing the LSU game, so it was a potential trap game, and JMU got fired up.

This VCU team is much better than last season's. Vince Williams is playing amazing disciplined basketball in all facets, and freshman Watkins is one of their most efficient players, he's a beast.

 

[KE Spider]

This VCU team is much better than last season's.

Low bar, Buddy.

 

[Eight Legger]

At least Hofstra is the clear favorite in its league... The same league JMU is in.

 

[97spiderfan]

Kenpom:

VCU Strength of Schedule: 155
Richmond Strength of Schedule: 61

VCU's last 6 games: Mount Saint Mary, North Carolina A&T, ODU, Western Carolina, JMU, St. Joes.

You couldn't hardly pick a weaker group of teams to play if you tried.

 

[Spiders4ever]

I guess their SOS will jump up when they play us then, right?

 

[urmite]

Kenpom:

VCU Strength of Schedule: 155
Richmond Strength of Schedule: 61

VCU's last 6 games: Mount Saint Mary, North Carolina A&T, ODU, Western Carolina, JMU, St. Joes.

You couldn't hardly pick a weaker group of teams to play if you tried.

By my calculations, and subject to change...
I see NET profile being:
VCU
Tier I 0-2
Tier II 2-0
Tier III 1-0
Tier IV 5-0

UR
Tier I 2-1
Tier II 2-0
Tier III 2-1
Tier IV 1-0

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in Monday's NET (plus effected by Saturday games...)

Of course, that also only indicates the resume and not who is the better team...

 

[SpiderRick]

They may hit us up with their depth this year. 3 solid bigs, 4 solid guards, 3 solid forwards. They go at least 11 deep. I guess we can see how they do against Davidson this week. Thing is, everyone talks about Bones, but they can have off games from him and still win. They are much better this year than last year.

Peeking at their box score, they had nine players with greater than 10 minutes, and another one that had 9 minutes, 11 players scored and 12 played. At least their coach can "find a way to get them in the game more"

 

[SFspidur]

By my calculations, and subject to change...
I see NET profile being:
VCU
Tier I 0-2
Tier II 2-0
Tier III 1-0
Tier IV 5-0

UR
Tier I 2-1
Tier II 2-0
Tier III 2-1
Tier IV 1-0

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in Monday's NET (plus effected by Saturday games...)

Of course, that also only indicates the resume and not who is the better team...

Where are you getting this from? There’s no way we have two Quad 1 wins. We might have one if Davidson can sneak in the top 75. Wofford would have to be top 30 at home to count, and I don’t see any way that happens. I don’t see Loyola making top 50 on a neutral court either.

 

[urmite]

Where are you getting this from? There’s no way we have two Quad 1 wins. We might have one if Davidson can sneak in the top 75. Wofford would have to be top 30 at home to count, and I don’t see any way that happens. I don’t see Loyola making top 50 on a neutral court either.

I did have to piece it together myself but...
Torvik without Preseason (use Nov 2nd start date) is:
Home
Wofford 108
Hofstra 130
Neutral
Loyola- Chicago 42
Morehead ST 239
Away
West Virginia 25
Davidson 75
Kentucky 99
Northern Iowa 116
Vanderbilt 154

T-Rank - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank (barttorvik.com)

No idea if Monday's NET will be similar...

 

[SFspidur]

Thanks...I’d be surprised if Loyola is that high.

In other news, Duquesne and GW are going to play twice in DC this weekend. That will eliminate the Feb 24 Duq-GW game in Pittsburgh, freeing up a date for the Dukes to fit in another game. But it doesn’t directly create an opening to make up their games against us or SLU, as we both have other games scheduled the day before.

Dukes to Double Up and Play GW Twice This Weekend - Duquesne University Athletics

PITTSBURGH - The Duquesne men's basketball team, which had Wednesday's Atlantic 10 opener at Saint Louis postponed due to a COVID-19 pause by the SLU program, will

goduquesne.com

 

[urmite]

Any Idea what happened to Bracketologists.com? I thought they had the best presentation of NET...

 

[LionNation540]

Low bar, Buddy.

And yet you still split with them, beating the injured version. 🤷🏾‍♂️

 

[LionNation540]

Kenpom:

VCU Strength of Schedule: 155
Richmond Strength of Schedule: 61

VCU's last 6 games: Mount Saint Mary, North Carolina A&T, ODU, Western Carolina, JMU, St. Joes.

You couldn't hardly pick a weaker group of teams to play if you tried.

Doesn't matter, we're still better than UR and will show it soon. But unlike UR, we beat everyone we were supposed to beat. You lost a buy game.

VCU is currently ranked 56 on KenPom, a spot above UR, after UR beat Davidson. Nice try though.

 

[Spiders4ever]

Doesn't matter, we're still better than UR and will show it soon. But unlike UR, we beat everyone we were supposed to beat. You lost a buy game.

VCU is currently ranked 56 on KenPom, a spot above UR, after UR beat Davidson. Nice try though.

Didn't VDU have a senior laden starting line-up last year and where favored to win the conference? Didn't work out so well for them.

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

You couldn't hardly pick a weaker group of teams to play if you tried.

Take another gander at our 2018 OOC schedule.

 

[whampas]

Doesn't matter, we're still better than UR and will show it soon. But unlike UR, we beat everyone we were supposed to beat. You lost a buy game.

VCU is currently ranked 56 on KenPom, a spot above UR, after UR beat Davidson. Nice try though.

Can't wait, talk's cheap. If you weren't worried you wouldn't be here.

 

[Eight Legger]

Doesn't matter, we're still better than UR and will show it soon. But unlike UR, we beat everyone we were supposed to beat. You lost a buy game.

VCU is currently ranked 56 on KenPom, a spot above UR, after UR beat Davidson. Nice try though.

Not every out of conference home game is a buy game, Jon Rothstein.

 

[Dr. Spidey]

Congratulations, Lion. We are happy for you.

 

[SFspidur]

Big hit for WVU. They just lost Cottrell for the season with a torn Achilles too.

Tshiebwe Steps Away from Mountaineer Basketball - West Virginia University Athletics

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. – West Virginia University men's basketball sophomore forward Oscar Tshiebwe is stepping away from the program due to personal reasons, coach Bob

wvusports.com

 

[8legs1dream]

Big hit for WVU. They just lost Cottrell for the season with a torn Achilles too.

Tshiebwe Steps Away from Mountaineer Basketball - West Virginia University Athletics

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. – West Virginia University men's basketball sophomore forward Oscar Tshiebwe is stepping away from the program due to personal reasons, coach Bob

wvusports.com

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Mooney needs to get the feelers out to this guy!

 

[GKiller]

Lion is a troll but until we beat VCU with any consistency I really can't blame anyone for picking them over us.

 

[LionNation540]

Can't wait, talk's cheap. If you weren't worried you wouldn't be here.

 

[LionNation540]

Congratulations, Lion. We are happy for you.

Many thanks, 'tis my greatest honor.

 

[plydogg]

Go troll your coach with a billboard.



😳 OH WAIT....

If you think the billboard is the way to troll us as if we've never discussed it you are badly mistaken lol.

 

[VT4700]

Imagine how pathetic your life must be to have your team go 8-10 in its conference last year, yet you go onto an opposing message board of a team that went 14-4 in the same conference and criticize that team? Lol.

 

[LionNation540]

Imagine how pathetic your life must be to have your team go 8-10 in its conference last year, yet you go onto an opposing message board of a team that went 14-4 in the same conference and criticize that team? Lol.

Oh yeah, so pathetic to take 5 minutes out of my day to post on a board.

That 14-4 team was better than this year's team, but y'all can ignore that and carry on.

Also, urmite has been posting on our board for years now, and we don't whine about it.

 

[VT4700]

Oh yeah, so pathetic to take 5 minutes out of my day to post on a board.

That 14-4 team was better than this year's team, but y'all can ignore that and carry on.

Well, maybe, and that team had the 10th best 3 point shooter in the country. What is your point? Would VCU be better or worse without Bones?

 

[gcarter52]

UNI turned out to be a bad game, not much we can do about that one. As opposed to past years when weak schedule turned out pretty good, this year see.s the opposite. And Mr. Average Mooney seems to be Mr. Average. Not a great combo.

Fickle people, we can only schedule them. We can’t play the games b

 

[spider23]

Who you calling a B?

 

[gcarter52]

Who you calling a B?

That was a typing error. I didn’t complete the sentence. I don’t use profanity, sorry if you thought I was calling you or anyone a B. I meant that we can only play the game.

 

[gcarter52]

Fickle people, we can only schedule them. We can’t play the games b

Coaches can’t play the games.

 

[urmite]

That was a typing error. I didn’t complete the sentence. I don’t use profanity, sorry if you thought I was calling you or anyone a B. I meant that we can only play the game.

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[KE Spider]

Let's cut the barbs and quips and all agree that neither team has lost a single game in 2021.

The future is in their respective hands, but I like what the Spiders bring to the court.

 

[localspider]

And yet you still split with them, beating the injured version. 🤷🏾‍♂️

You obviously forgot Blake Francis was injured and not available at your place. Smoked you later without Evans. Tit for tat.

 

[Spiders4ever]

You can get the highlights on YouTube.

 

[LionNation540]

You obviously forgot Blake Francis was injured and not available at your place. Smoked you later without Evans. Tit for tat.

We had at least 3 players hurt.

 

[spider23]

That was a typing error. I didn’t complete the sentence. I don’t use profanity, sorry if you thought I was calling you or anyone a B. I meant that we can only play the game.

I know you didn't intend that, just thought it was a funny miscues. Keep keeping on coach.

 

[localspider]

We had at least 3 players hurt.

Starters?