Drake 11/20

[Eight Legger]

Today showed us yet again why Mooney's teams have only had one eight-game winning streak and one nine-game winning streak and nothing more during his SEVENTEEN YEARS here. Almost unfathomable. You have to string wind together, especially when you're allegedly a really good team. During his tenure, we rarely win more than four in a row.

 

[kneepadmckinney]

I usually apportion the blame based on who I find myself yelling at the television at most often. There were very few times yelling at Mooney today. A couple over-substitutions, but that's about it.

Conversely, I thought the technical on Grant was an atrocious decision by Grant. (And if you go back and watch, he was chirping the play before, so it was coming). Absolutely a momentum changer there. We lost by three, and those were two nonsense free points.

I thought Cayo was horrible. I yelled at the TV 4 times to stop being a contortionist every time he went for a layup and just fricking go up with it.

I yelled at Gilyard to get at least one wide open three pointer over the front rim.

And I yelled at 8 missed foul shots.

And two non-box outs on key missed free throws by Drake.

So I honestly don't know how you can watch this game and think, "coach's fault." Sometimes it definitely is, but this one wasn't one of them.

 

[Section9.RowD]

I usually apportion the blame based on who I find myself yelling at the television at most often. There were very few times yelling at Mooney today. A couple over-substitutions, but that's about it.

Conversely, I thought the technical on Grant was an atrocious decision by Grant. (And if you go back and watch, he was chirping the play before, so it was coming). Absolutely a momentum changer there. We lost by three, and those were two nonsense free points.

I thought Cayo was horrible. I yelled at the TV 4 times to stop being a contortionist every time he went for a layup and just fricking go up with it.

I yelled at Gilyard to get at least one wide open three pointer over the front rim.

And I yelled at 8 missed foul shots.

And two non-box outs on key missed free throws by Drake.

So I honestly don't know how you can watch this game and think, "coach's fault." Sometimes it definitely is, but this one wasn't one of them.

Right to all ... the student section was loud and obnoxious as most of us were in our UR days and they get some credit for grant’s unfortunate lack of self control

 

[Eight Legger]

Nothing you said is wrong, kneepad, except that the reason it's fair to blame the coach is because this is our culture, as established year after year after year. It's undeniable. He created it and isn't able to fix it, and therefore he owns it even though the players are the ones on the court.

In a vacuum, you'd be right. But the same things happen here with different players and different teams year after year.

 

[spider23]

but we complain on here that there are no consequences for guys who do things like that, or play bad defense. this time Mooney enforces consequences and we complain.

Oh please, what in the world are you talking about. I didn't watch the game but from all sort of posters Mooney and Grant pissed this away and you feel obligated to defend mooniocrity? Need to leave this defense to 4700.

 

[Long Island Spiders]

Including the dunk that lead to the Tech, here are the stats until the last score in the game

20-11
6:14 2nd - 0:05 2nd (6:09)

Richmond Stats​

FG: 4-7;3PTR: 1-3;FT: 2-4;BLK: 0;TO: 4;STL: 0;

Richmond Scorers​

Nick Sherod: 6
Grant Golden: 2
Tyler Burton: 2
Jacob Gilyard: 1

Drake Stats​

FG: 5-9;3PTR: 2-4;FT: 8-11;BLK: 0;TO: 1;STL: 2;

Drake Scorers​

Tremell Murphy: 7
Roman Penn: 7
Tucker DeVries: 4
D.J. Wilkins: 2

This makes me sick but thank you for posting. Richmond won turnover battle all game except during this period. Other thing that noticeably stands out is the free throw discrepancy, which is one of the reasons we all thought the officiating was horrendous.

 

[Long Island Spiders]

Oh please, what in the world are you talking about. I didn't watch the game but from all sort of posters Mooney and Grant pissed this away and you feel obligated to defend mooniocrity? Need to leave this defense to 4700.

I stopped reading at “I didn’t watch the game”

 

[Section9.RowD]

I stopped reading at “I didn’t watch the game”

right

 

[whampas]

I stopped reading at “I didn’t watch the game”

You don't have to watch most games to know what Mooney teams will do down the stretch. He doesn't know how to close games. Kevin Anderson was his closer and he didn't learn it from CM.

 

[Long Island Spiders]

You don't have to watch most games to know what Mooney teams will do down the stretch. He doesn't know how to close games. Kevin Anderson was his closer and he didn't learn it from CM.

Gosh I miss Kevin Anderson. What a great player and winner.

 

[Eight Legger]

There was so much anger on the UR basketball Facebook page after the game that they apparently deleted the postgame post. Yikes.

 

[wr70beh]

There was so much anger on the UR basketball Facebook page after the game that they apparently deleted the postgame post. Yikes.

Thin skinned organization. Waiting for Matt Smith to come on and say they don't need us as fans.

 

[Eight Legger]

I take it back, the post is still up. It seemed to disappear last night, but maybe that was something wonky on my end.

 

[spider23]

You don't have to watch most games to know what Mooney teams will do down the stretch. He doesn't know how to close games. Kevin Anderson was his closer and he didn't learn it from CM.

Right, my point was that the posters on here basically reinforced the same late game meltdowns that occur game year after year. See no need to defend Mooney. Didn't watch the game, instead had a nice outing with my sons and watched some superbly coached teams in Villanova and Purdue in person.

 

[UR80sfan]

It is very disappointing we lost, but based on how poorly a number of players shot, I am surprised it came down to the final seconds. Gilyard, Wilson, Cayo were a combined 3 for 20. They are all great players, but had a bad night shooting. Our free throw shooting also hurt. In general, I thought the game was well coached and we outplayed them on both offense and defense. We just missed a lot of open shots against a very good team in a hostile environment, with biased refs.

 

[Long Island Spiders]

It is very disappointing we lost, but based on how poorly a number of players shot, I am surprised in came down to the final seconds. Gilyard, Wilson, Cayo were a combined 3 for 20. They are all great players, but had a bad night shooting. Our free throw shooting also hurt us a lot. In general, I thought the game was well coached and we outplayed them on both offense and defense. We just missed a lot of open shots against a very good team in a hostile environment, with biased refs.

Good take. Thank you.

 

[SpiderGuy]

Nothing you said is wrong, kneepad, except that the reason it's fair to blame the coach is because this is our culture, as established year after year after year. It's undeniable. He created it and isn't able to fix it, and therefore he owns it even though the players are the ones on the court.

In a vacuum, you'd be right. But the same things happen here with different players and different teams year after year.

Great post!

In another thread I mentioned that patterns repeat. And indeed they do - both within a season & from year to year. This in on Mooney. For example, his defensive choices and lack of fundamentals are killing us.

Adaptation is a wonderful thing. This would counter the culture you alluded to, but I've only seen limited examples of adaptation or flexibility over the years. This is what we have and what we are. It's here to stay until there's a new coach.

 

[SpiderK]

We have “shooters” that sure can’t shoot under pressure.

 

[SpiderDogg]

I definitely don’t think we outplayed drake on offense and defense. They missed wide open shots all night and finally started taking it to the basket down the stretch.

 

[72Spider]

Stronger team without him.

wrong

 

[Not-A-Homer]

It is very disappointing we lost, but based on how poorly a number of players shot, I am surprised it came down to the final seconds. Gilyard, Wilson, Cayo were a combined 3 for 20. They are all great players, but had a bad night shooting. Our free throw shooting also hurt. In general, I thought the game was well coached and we outplayed them on both offense and defense. We just missed a lot of open shots against a very good team in a hostile environment, with biased refs.

I'd be interested in some specific examples as to what you saw as "well coached." A nice young man, well-spoken, who some think looks good in his suit doesn't count.

p.s. The officials did not cause UR to lose this game. When 3 starters go 3-20, your team shoots free throws poorly, and your team's execution down the stretch is woeful, your team did not "outplay them on both offense and defense."

If you had said that, in the first half, Burton outplayed those who attempted to defend him, I would agree.

 

[8legs1dream]

Something that has to make you laugh though is how @VT4700 has gone MIA after another loss.

Not to worry though, expect a triumphant return after we trounce Hofstra!

 

[Spider B]

I wouldn't be surprised if Hofsta beats us. Can't put that one in the win column yet!

 

[Not-A-Homer]

I wouldn't be surprised if Hofsta beats us. Can't put that one in the win column yet!

Agree completely. I think Maryland is a more likely win for Spiders.

 

[spider fan]

Never count any game as a win or potential win until the final buzzer sounds and the scoreboard shows more points for Richmond than for the opponent.

 

[gcarter52]

Something that has to make you laugh though is how @VT4700 has gone MIA after another loss.

Not to worry though, expect a triumphant return after we trounce Hofstra!

All our plastic fans, while we face adversary, we know who our real fans are. I still believe in our resurgency.

 

[MrTbone]

All our plastic fans, while we face adversary, we know who our real fans are. I still believe in our resurgency.

What’s the definition of a plastic fan versus a real fan? Confused by that one.

 

[gcarter52]

What’s the definition of a plastic fan versus a real fan? Confused by that one.

Fake

 

[SpiderGuy]

What’s the definition of a plastic fan versus a real fan? Confused by that one.

Some people might think real fan means 1) Mooney enabler 2) when the ship sinks one must go down with the captain 3) no matter what the stats and facts are, they really don't tell the tale 4) deny at all costs 5) next year will always be our year.

Me - I don't buy into that, but there always will be homers in spite of reality.

 

[Not-A-Homer]

Fake

Shameful.

 

[Mo 2.0]

Fake

Sheep

 

[gcarter52]

Sheep

Ha ha!!

 

[Mo 2.0]

Ha ha!!

I think you mean "bahhhh bahhhhh".

 

[gcarter52]

I think you mean "bahhhh bahhhhh".

I meant what I said. Thank you.

 

[MrTbone]

Fake

You’ll have to clarify better, what’s a fake fan?

It sounds like you’d probably categorize me as a fake fan in spite of being a season ticket holder for 20 years and a followers for 30+ years, all because I don’t think CM is the right guy and I occasionally point out some problems with our program.

 

[gcarter52]

You’ll have to clarify better, what’s a fake fan?

If you look up I told you. I guess to didn’t read.

 

[Spider B]

The few remaining "real fans" need a reality check. They tend to be delusional about the true state of the program.

 

[MrTbone]

If you look up I told you. I guess to didn’t read.

Plastic and fake are a tautology.

Fans come in all stripes. Some just happen to be critical at times. So be it.

 

[SpiderRick]

What is this "Tik-Tok"? Don't ya'll have homework?

 

[GKiller]

Who googled tautology? Raises hand.

plastic fake & stupid. Apologies to Dean Wormer.