- May 27, 2003
Here we go again: the Big 12 has added Cincy, Houston, UCF and BYU. Temple now left in no-man's land. Would love to see them come back to the A10.
can't just keep growing. at some point, Fordham needs to join the Patriot League. Maybe UMass want to upgrade their football. if two left then adding Wichita and Memphis would be sick. Belmont is probably a decent option too.Getting Temple back would be huge. Love to see us go after Wichita State as well. That would give SLU a natural geographic partner.
quality of the basketball program has very little to do with these realignments or Memphis would be in the Big 12 with their recent top rated hoops classes.As for us, hard to believe we were once considered for Big East expansion back when they were looking for new members in the 90s and now we are just content with competing. Id love to think we would come out stronger post expansion, but I cant really say considering the state of the programs the last few years.
They have never won a bowl game but went to 5 straight before the pandemic. Do any of these pay anything?I think Temple feels that their football is a way bigger deal than it really is. I don't see them coming back to the A10 to the detriment of their football.
I'm not sure I was making any realistic options beyond Temple, ODU (and Belmont in previous threads) other than just having a little fun with the non-sense of continuous expansion. Generally speaking yes its about market size, tv revenue, etc at least for the big boys. But other variables come into play as well otherwise VT would of been left out of ACC expansion first go round (Market) , or Witchita St (Basketball) wouldn't be added to the AAC. Rutgers is probably the best example of just getting in because of a market.quality of the basketball program has very little to do with these realignments or Memphis would be in the Big 12 with their recent top rated hoops classes.
it's all about market size for the TV revenue. and football for the big conferences.
I agree Memphis isn't coming to the A10. Belmont is a more realistic western option.
market size probably matters more for the bigger school conferences with football, though still a factor for any conference.There is a little contradiction that saying quality of basketball program has little to do with realignment, then cite a quality basketball only program that isn't known for any other sports to be added to the conference. Just depends on the conference and the partners willing to dance. Realistically, I would love Belmont added to give us more stability out west.
Guess it helps if I finish my entire thought saying Dayton and SLU going (Or to another conference) as another part of that equation. A10 wouldn't be as strong and in position of other schools being poached as well.how would VCU benefit from that move?
Didn’t that already happen by its addition of UConn?Ferrrum good points, do you think the BE would break it's private school rule?
You're right, I had forgotten about them. I guess because they were a prior member and BE has not yet started hoops play. Do you think their prior record is what opened the door?
Does Richmond and other A10 schools travel private generally (ie not just in a COVID world)? If so, would agree the extra distance doesn’t matter enough to be a deciding factor.Temple is obvious, but I would think Witchita State would be just as high on the A-10 expansion list. They are one of the top mid major programs in the country, why wouldn't we want that? Georgraphy wise, yeah they are little farther west, but what is that an extra 30-45 minutes on a plane ride.
And if we want to protect our big boys from getting poached (VCU, St. Louis, Dayton), we need to add big time college basketball programs. Belmont isn't moving the needle if another conference comes calling. Add Temple and Witchita State though and suddenly the A-10 is back to being the best non-P6 conference in the country.
No one cares about non-revenue sports. The dollars to operate all sports come from Football and Men's Basketball. The A-10 either protects its Men's Basketball product by getting as much high quality MBB programs or it will end up being poached by conferences that do.the spread out geography of most conferences makes no sense to me, especially from a non-rev sports viewpoint. they should blow it all up and start from scratch.
I agree and in the end this will happen in my opinion as soon as the NFL training ground teams pull out of the NCAA agreement. Then it will primarily be basketball that is the revenue sport (some FCS football money maybe) and the NCAA tournament is all about regional play and it would seem team would not need to travel all over the place for conference play. Maybe if teams didn’t spend so much money on travel, they could invest more in things that are actually going to make their teams better.the spread out geography of most conferences makes no sense to me, especially from a non-rev sports viewpoint. they should blow it all up and start from scratch.