Andre Weir
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that's an awful lot of words from a guy who has never watched a practice. How about this-- Weir should earn it. in practice and off the court.
that stinks. was hoping we'd get past whatever it was, but the writing was on the wall.
8legs1dream
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HA wow...what the hell. Would love for an insider to give us an inkling of what the problem was.
I didn’t see him in Indianapolis.Knew something was up..Adjustment to 1st semester college,especially UR,is a big deal especially when it comes to the discipline of academics.
That's a shame and leaves us very thin @ center next year. Zero A10 level centers on the roster without Grant. Desperately need a transfer who can really contribute.
Very disappointing..obviously we dont know the story... need to plug this hole!!! Physically, Weir looked the part!
With a developing Weir, thought we were in need of AT LEAST one more interior player for next year. Struck out on Scieffelin and others and now it is a huge problem. it stinks, seemed like he had the potential to be a dominant bog in the A10.
Odd. Given all the background we seem to do on kids, I'm surprised this slipped through the cracks. Well, the transfer market is ripe. Go get someone good.
That’s very true. But there’s no way a rotation of those 2 can replace Grant without Gilly, Cayo, Sherod, and Francis as well. That position is going to be so important for passing, and neither of those guys has shown the ability to do that at a high level.
and speaking of passing. Man I miss TJ Cline. What a damn good player
Grace is passable for 10-15 minutes a game. If he's starting at center and playing 30 minutes where we're expecting major points from him, that's a problem.
Weir’s mother was a big part of him coming to UR. Has anyone checked her tweets?
Saw a few of hers a week or so ago that seemed to be supportive of the program. Very curious what happened.
She did LIKE a tweet complaining about ESPN not having Richmond on, on Dec 18. I am wondering too . ..
To me this just highlights recruiting issue with inability to land big guys - I don't care what position we call them, but need big guys that can rebound and guard other bigs. Thought we struck out in 2021, but not many seemed concerned. Academics, injuries, other off court stuff is always a possibility with 18-22 year olds. Have to build depth. I think we are well stocked at guard and wing, but woefully stocked for next few years at PF/C (guys 6'8" and above). Weir leaving just really highlights the issue.
Yes, this is an issue for a lot of mid major programs, but while we were whiffing on HIcks and Schieffelin, Dayton landed THREE well thought of 6'8" + prospects, and SDSU one with one available spot I believe.
Hopefully Mooney has something up his sleave, we really need a good one in 2021 class AND an immediately eligible transfer. Seems like immediate eligibility for transfers may be more the norm now anyway. Just seems crazy that what ever the issue was, couldn't be fixed or worked on considering the minimal time since the semester started. Maybe he just didn't think this was the place for him. Who knows but this seemed like a great fit on the surface.
Yes, this is an issue for a lot of mid major programs, but while we were whiffing on HIcks and Schieffelin, Dayton landed THREE well thought of 6'8" + prospects, and SDSU one with one available spot I believe.
Hopefully Mooney has something up his sleave, we really need a good one in 2021 class AND an immediately eligible transfer. Seems like immediate eligibility for transfers may be more the norm now anyway. Just seems crazy that what ever the issue was, couldn't be fixed or worked on considering the minimal time since the semester started. Maybe he just didn't think this was the place for him. Who knows but this seemed like a great fit on the surface.
Wish him well, and wish him success. This was never going to be an easy year for a freshman on this team--virtually no playing time, quarantined from family and other students, remote learning so you don't even go to class and get the full campus experience. It was going to take a lot of fortitude. Absolutely no judgment for feeling that it wasn't the right place. I wish he had stuck it out until he could get the playing time and the great college experience, but I just don't see that there's anything to guess about or try to blame.
But yes, now we need two young big guys.
But yes, now we need two young big guys.
8legs1dream
Team Manager
some of you need to get this crazy idea out of your head that all the seniors are going to "run it back" for one more shot at glory next season. Most players at this level don't dream of playing college ball until the end of time. They are going to be ready soon to end this chapter of their lives and move on to the next whether that be playing pro overseas or starting a non basketball related career.
Have the mindset going into this offseason that NONE are coming back.
Have the mindset going into this offseason that NONE are coming back.
You know I go back to Joe John during the Tarrant era who was a good player, very athletic, free spirit but
had a hard time with strict discipline. I just have a feeling that Andre Weir could have been in this same boat and throw in the uncertainty of things, it was too much to have to adjust to. I wish him luck and just hope he goes somewhere outside our league.
had a hard time with strict discipline. I just have a feeling that Andre Weir could have been in this same boat and throw in the uncertainty of things, it was too much to have to adjust to. I wish him luck and just hope he goes somewhere outside our league.
Hmm, this sounds way too familiar. Failing to recruit well to replace players that are leaving, recruits leaving the program leaving us really thin at certain positions, and then we try to fill a gap with an immediately eligible big man that has no business playing in the A10. Sounds like same old Mooney is coming back....
Very curious about what happened, but don’t want to speculate about anything regarding an 18 or 19 year old. Best of luck wherever he ends up
Wilk, yes, this is a problem. Last 8 years we were always a player, or two , or three away, and Mooney always had an excuse built in - injuries, transfer, whatever. This does seem to be history playing out again, with pandemic already nuking one of two possible NCAA years. I do like our prospects and depth at PG, SG, Wing - think we have done well there. But with Weir leaving, bigger hole than I expected next year. I'm hoping that Mooney and co. have some options to fill in this need, but am afraid we could get in that cycle again.
Difference here is that we do not have Kenny Wood, Terry Connolly, Jim Shields, and Jim Springer all back next year. All good interior rebounders/defenders among multiple other skills. Joe Jon probably had most raw talent of that bunch, but could be and was replaced adequately due to DEPTH inside. And yes Connolly and Wood were not 6'8, but could rebound and battle like they were 6'8.
he’s played well this season but if we don’t have a 5 that can pass out of the high post, our offense doesn’t work as well.
This is one recruit we could not lose. We do not have a starting caliber big man on our roster once Grant leaves. Grace is suited fine for 10-15 minutes a game, but nothing more, unless we want to finish in the bottom half of the league next year.
Sal is not a 5. Mooney best get busy on the transfer, grad transfer market right now.
Sal is not a 5. Mooney best get busy on the transfer, grad transfer market right now.
Very strange - but sounds like kid was not a good fit. I wonder if with his mother involved so much, did he think he should be playing more or was he not getting the "star" treatment he expected. Either way - end result is he no longer a Spider and we now have a hole to fill in that spot.
Considering next year is likely to be a rebuilding year - I would like to look for a good HS recruit if possible. Maybe someone who can play behind Sal and Grace as they are seniors next year - get some minutes and experience and be ready to take over as a starter their Sophmore year.
Assuming no one comes back to roll it back next season - we are rebuilding next year. I am okay with that as long as the rebuild is short. We can't be rebuilding for 8 years. Its okay to take a step back when a lot of key players graduate, but the pipeline behind should be ready to step in - get experience that first year and then 2nd year we should be competing again at the top of the league.
Considering next year is likely to be a rebuilding year - I would like to look for a good HS recruit if possible. Maybe someone who can play behind Sal and Grace as they are seniors next year - get some minutes and experience and be ready to take over as a starter their Sophmore year.
Assuming no one comes back to roll it back next season - we are rebuilding next year. I am okay with that as long as the rebuild is short. We can't be rebuilding for 8 years. Its okay to take a step back when a lot of key players graduate, but the pipeline behind should be ready to step in - get experience that first year and then 2nd year we should be competing again at the top of the league.
Assuming no seniors from this year stay, next year we have:
3 Seniors
2 Juniors
now 2 Sophomores
4 Freshman
That leaves 2 open scholarships...
So it can be a Transfer & a HS...
It’d be nice if our athletic department could fill us in on some details..
Very good points, after our last back to back NCAA years, I was actually OK with the rebuilding years too, until it became apparent we were in a perpetual rebuild/one or two guys away mode. I do think we have some very good pieces, but agree with 97 - this is the one guy we couldn't lose.
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