Same place as Major League Baseball's unspoken rules. Everybody knows that.
Which team has been more soul crushing over the last 10 years?
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They aren’t written down or explicitly defined anywhere, they are unspoken rules. They develop through a community consensus response to certain behaviors. You will learn them over time, there really aren’t many other than no politics.
No Politics?
https://richmond.forums.rivals.com/threads/politics.11080/
Actually it is occasionally all over the Off Topic Board...
https://richmond.forums.rivals.com/threads/politics.11080/
Actually it is occasionally all over the Off Topic Board...
Don't attack other posters personally, you are free to disagree.
Don't go after players personally, you can discuss play or similar. Only exception is if it has been made public information.
Try to abide by topic threads
Remember we are all Spider fans
In other words, know my place as a minority?
That might work keeping the "wrong people" out of the Commonwealth Club but this is in public.
I didn't attack a poster, I alluded to the crappy way another school in our conference treated a coach. A coach who, if we had one with the same level of success, we should be over the moon for.
Outside of politics, I never watched The Apprentice , but before he even got into politics Trump telling people "YOU'RE FIRED" was a big part of his schtick, based on the commercials.
Am i supposed to believe you're going to react the same way to people bringing up "But her emails" or Benghazi in a thread?
You're going after me pretty hard with your super secret rules for a casual mention.
I've been here since 2001 and nobody has mentioned her emails or Benghazi on the basketball board. if you want more diverse topics of conversation, take it to the off topic board.
Sharing personal traits and characteristics is a choice you have made. They have nothing whatsoever to do with courtesy and respect for the views of others or for the way your posts are considered.
I have not posted on this board til recently, but I've been an observer for several years, and I have noticed that there is always an emotional reaction to political allusions, both progressive and conservative. I have seen it from posters with both viewpoints.
I happen to strongly agree with your political alignment and sentiments, very much in fact, but there are posters who do not. While I enjoy seeing references supporting politicians I endorse, as yours, I hate more seeing references supporting someone I do not support. Therefore, I think the rule to limit political comments to the Off Topic Forum is a great idea. It has nothing to do with minority status. It has been a rule for at least thenlastbtwibyears. Truly. I’m sure that if you had been a member of this board for a longer period of time you'd have witnessed what in talking about and you would quite agree.
That said, I do think that a list of written rules regarding posting would help.
I'm glad the current student body is much more tolerant than past student bodies, including the Good Old Boy Club that posts here
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.”
― Carl Gustav Jung
I agree that if you search the sports boards you will find very little political talk and always complaints about it right after.
But it has been mentioned...
https://richmond.forums.rivals.com/search/202110/?q=Benghazi&o=date&c[node]=16
so mentioned once in 2016 and shut down in the very next post. as it should have been, with no complaint.
my mistake.
Super liberal progressive here...I assure you that this has nothing to do with your personal political leanings. We just don’t insert those things into the board. Politics is sadly virtually unavoidable everywhere else, I think the goal is strictly to not introduce it in this tiny corner of the planet.
Tbone, I would have never guessed this at all from your posts and that is as it should be.
GS it is a no brainer my generation is more conservative thinking than today’s student. Different media sources, different issues, different work ethics, etc... But does not mean because we may not agree or have a different opinion, we are any less tolerant or accepting of a different lifestyle.
So to summarize....making a joke about a certain person firing people, which stretches back to his reality TV days, is a bannable offence.
And this super tolerant board is great at tolerating differences, as long as the people with those differences *HIDE* those differences?
And if you show those differences, you're somehow asking for the mistreatment and it's your fault?
"Sharing personal traits and characteristics is a choice you have made."
I was wearing a skirt that showed my ankles would i be "asking for it?"
Meanwhile, making jokes from a different perspective than mine, while first denied, are OK when they have, in fact, been made?
Gee, we are making so much progress at codifying your secret rules.
Fun!
Awsoooome sauce!
And this super tolerant board is great at tolerating differences, as long as the people with those differences *HIDE* those differences?
And if you show those differences, you're somehow asking for the mistreatment and it's your fault?
"Sharing personal traits and characteristics is a choice you have made."
I was wearing a skirt that showed my ankles would i be "asking for it?"
Meanwhile, making jokes from a different perspective than mine, while first denied, are OK when they have, in fact, been made?
Gee, we are making so much progress at codifying your secret rules.
Fun!
Awsoooome sauce!
I really don't think there is any real comparison between Martelli situation and Mooney at all. Some facts are the same (most notably two down years in a row) but that's about it. Martelli had more success and more consistent success; had shown he could bounce back from down seasons; had excessive injuries (far more than we have had in any year) in one of those down years. More importantly, he was far more considered "the program" than Mooney ever was and way, way way more the face of the University even. He was very high profile in a very crowded Phialadelphia sports scene ( a sports scene that is far more pro oriented than college, making his status even more noteworthy) in a way Mooney has never come close to in a far less crowded sports scene in Richmond. In fact, this is what got Martelli fired - - - it wasn't two losing seasons - - - that was just the excuse. It was an insecure new AD who was completely uncomfotable with Martelli's "bigger than the program" (maybe bigger than the school) profile and decided to cut that out while she could. St. Joe's did not hold hm to some "accountability for winning" standard that was not met by two bad seasons; they held him accountable for being "too big for his britches" in the opinion of the new boss in charge! Nothing more and nothing less.
Our situation is very different. He's just a coach. Less succesful and not nearly as high profile. Its his coaching alone that he can and should be judged on. That should lead to the same result as MArtelli, but for wholly different reasons.
Here is what I predict will happen. We'll be OK this year - - - improved, but not great (certainly not at-large good). The supporters (including those with job titles that belie their actual control of sports at UR) will point to next year (again) and fact Mooney deserves too see the then-Senior class through the program. We'll be better again in '20-'21 (but not nearly as good as we could or should be). Following that year, he'll have improved two years in a row, making him unfireable to many. The two years after that (21-22 and 22-23) will see a repeat of the decline we have just lived through and that will (finally) end the Mooney era! But that my friends is 4 more years! Thats how I see this breaking down! A sub .500 season this year MIGHT change that to sooner, but I just don't see that coming and any sort of positivity or excuse involved in 22-23 season (injuries as an excuse or a "really strong" class still risiong etc.) could extend it even further! We're stuck in medocrity - - - he's not terrible, he's just not good!
Our situation is very different. He's just a coach. Less succesful and not nearly as high profile. Its his coaching alone that he can and should be judged on. That should lead to the same result as MArtelli, but for wholly different reasons.
Here is what I predict will happen. We'll be OK this year - - - improved, but not great (certainly not at-large good). The supporters (including those with job titles that belie their actual control of sports at UR) will point to next year (again) and fact Mooney deserves too see the then-Senior class through the program. We'll be better again in '20-'21 (but not nearly as good as we could or should be). Following that year, he'll have improved two years in a row, making him unfireable to many. The two years after that (21-22 and 22-23) will see a repeat of the decline we have just lived through and that will (finally) end the Mooney era! But that my friends is 4 more years! Thats how I see this breaking down! A sub .500 season this year MIGHT change that to sooner, but I just don't see that coming and any sort of positivity or excuse involved in 22-23 season (injuries as an excuse or a "really strong" class still risiong etc.) could extend it even further! We're stuck in medocrity - - - he's not terrible, he's just not good!
It's like you've come here looking for a fight that hasn't been there. what's wrong with you?
you've had an attitude this entire thread. you were simply asked to keep the politics crap off the basketball board. why is that too much for you to comply with?
Who threatened to ban you?
again for those not paying attention, Benghazi was apparently mentioned once in 2016. that poster was immediately told to keep that shit off the basketball board in the next post, and he did ... without complaint. where was it "OK"?
you've had an attitude this entire thread. you were simply asked to keep the politics crap off the basketball board. why is that too much for you to comply with?
You're not my dad.
So why don't YOU keep politics and PERSONAL ATTACKS to yourself.
If you actually have an interesting take on URMBB, now would be the time.
This entire thread has become with a few exceptions "ridiculous." If any poster is so sensitive that he or she has to lash out verbally with another poster who disagrees why post anything? Perhaps a "safe space" is needed to make certain you don't read anything with which you disagree?
This is defining "tolerance" as one who agrees with you and "intolerance" as one who disagrees. The purpose of a thread on the basketball board is to discuss aspects of our basketball program and not to deal with the angst of any particular poster.
This is defining "tolerance" as one who agrees with you and "intolerance" as one who disagrees. The purpose of a thread on the basketball board is to discuss aspects of our basketball program and not to deal with the angst of any particular poster.
Philly...could you please keep your replys political in nature. This could easily be confused with sports.
Telling me to go to a "safe space "is directly out of a certain playbook, and its not a basketball one.
If you were serious about the no politics stance you'd delete you own post.
If i was as over the top as you claim, I'd label that hate speech.
You're like a fish, swimming in a view point and you don't even know that you're wet.
I don't mean that as an insult, I'm sure you'd be a majestic tarpon or swordfish or something.
Why do I post anything?
Because people like me can care about the school, and basketball, and we don't have to be afraid.
And if you want to make this thread about basketball, start talking about basketball.
If you were serious about the no politics stance you'd delete you own post.
If i was as over the top as you claim, I'd label that hate speech.
You're like a fish, swimming in a view point and you don't even know that you're wet.
I don't mean that as an insult, I'm sure you'd be a majestic tarpon or swordfish or something.
Why do I post anything?
Because people like me can care about the school, and basketball, and we don't have to be afraid.
And if you want to make this thread about basketball, start talking about basketball.
Well, as an Eagles fan, I'd say the Redskins demise has been anything but soul crushing. Its been fun, inspiring, . . . . redemptive even. This is enhanced by the fact that its not just the Skins, but that obnoxious owner who is so very easy to root for to suffer as much as possible!
So yeah, I voted for the Spiders as being more soul crushing!
So yeah, I voted for the Spiders as being more soul crushing!
The poll question was meant to be personal and subjective!
The flip side would be, what would be the biggest party cause by a win?
UVA beating Tech in football?
Browns going to the Playoffs in NFL?
I can't quite figure out what the URMBB equivalent would be.
I mean we've been to the big dance in living memory.
Philly, I have come to the realization that the plan you have stated on here is the one we will endure as Spiders fans. A little better the next two years, or possibly even grab a bid. Mooney breathes a sigh of relief, relaxes on the recruiting trail again, the slow slippery slide begins anew.
Who cares. I'm certainly not going to waste my $37 on a couple hours of billboard again.
Who cares. I'm certainly not going to waste my $37 on a couple hours of billboard again.
Wow, that's all it costs to get on a electronic billboard?
I am really surprised people don't use that option more.
I understand where Philly & others r coming from. But if Jabba brings back a coach for a 10th try at NCAA after this year the AD hire was definitely a lemon. A don’t rock the boat golden parachute big hat no cattle set up hire.
I’m not going anywhere I’m too long invested in the Spiders but that would have me at least question why.
Plus I continue to believe contract status requires either cutting your losses or extension. And how could anyone justify an extension without NCAA this year. Also I’m of the opinion there has to be a buyout figure on his deal by now. That we wouldn’t owe it all possibly making it easier tho we can afford either way.
That said I’ll be rooting for Mooney as my desire to return to Ncaa is higher. I’m truly confident we have the team. Moon man will make it all moot. Moon man Moot man. Just keep the extension after the NCAA bid to minimum years.
NCAA or bust.
I apologize for my post, I didn't intend to tell you to 'know your place as a minority'. I was trying to say you shouldn't feel bad about not knowing a rule that wasn't explicitly stated anywhere, and over time you will learn the norms of the board by continuing to interact with the community. urmite explicitly enumerated the rest of the 'unwritten rules' in the following post, so I guess they are all written now.
I would like to correct my behavior so this doesn't happen again, but I don't understand how my comment could be interpreted as telling someone to 'know their place' as a minority. Can you help me understand where I went wrong?
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I'll try to get back on topic here:
I think Coach Russ has a lot more slack than people think, and I'm fine with that. Let him get his players up and running and see how he does.
I also think that Mooney has more slack than he deserves. He's had several classes of teams since the Sweet 16 run that have underachieved, but there seems to be no hurry to get rid of him.
I think Coach Russ has a lot more slack than people think, and I'm fine with that. Let him get his players up and running and see how he does.
I also think that Mooney has more slack than he deserves. He's had several classes of teams since the Sweet 16 run that have underachieved, but there seems to be no hurry to get rid of him.
My only quibble with your post is the idea that the players underachieved.
They were in an outmoded system that hasn't really been effective since the early 90s.
To me an underachieving player would be someone who doesnt work hard enough to live up to the talent.
I think for our players, in the bad system, the harder they worked the worse it got. Running faster to the wrong spot because that's what the coach ordered, GG 15 feet away from the basket on offence and being coached not to rebound and to play matador defense, those are not his faults.
So I'd say they were misused or mismanaged more than underachieved.
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