I wonder how Bennett would have felt if Guy, Jerome, and Hunter quit less than 3 weeks before their title season started.Let’s wait to hear from all the players that feel “wronged”. Based on what I have read the assistant coaches were doing all the heavy lifting on recruiting etc, for the last two years, so the players have “relationships” with the assistants, not necessarily with Bennett. Plus if you listen to VT, no basketball player in their right mind wants to play Bennetts style of basketball anyway, so is it a big issue?
It is simply another significant loss to the coaching ranks as college basketball slowly adjusts to the “new world”. Nothing else to see here.
Hey, Billboard, why not photoshop your profile picture to say Mooney for UVA? Then you’ll be happy.honestly don't even know where to start here, this is a new high (or is it a low) in mental gymnastics which you are undoubtedly the king of.
I'd like to thank you for tying the room all together with that rug of a post. Amazing work.Hey, Billboard, why not photoshop your profile picture to say Mooney for UVA? Then you’ll be happy.
It amazes me how I am the only one on this board that thinks belittling our coach andI'd like to thank you for tying the room all together with that rug of a post. Amazing work.
Hey, Billboard, why not photoshop your profile picture to say Mooney for UVA? Then you’ll be happy.
We won't know from the players if they felt "wronged" unless they publicly say so, but that is not something they should do. Yes, players build relationships with assistants, but a head coach - especially one of Bennett's pedigree - likely plays a big role in their decision to play at UVA with his coaching ability, higher level connections, and I am sure he is an overall good guy that players like to be around. Would you want your child's college professor to leave 3 weeks before classes start because they don't like the direction academia is heading, and instead picked the teaching assistant they wanted to lead the class? I don't know what went on behind the scenes, and while I am sure the assistant coaches had a strong idea/flat out knew (why Ron Sanchez left a head coaching position at Charlotte to go to UVA) it may have blindsided the players.Let’s wait to hear from all the players that feel “wronged”. Based on what I have read the assistant coaches were doing all the heavy lifting on recruiting etc, for the last two years, so the players have “relationships” with the assistants, not necessarily with Bennett. Plus if you listen to VT, no basketball player in their right mind wants to play Bennetts style of basketball anyway, so is it a big issue?
It is simply another significant loss to the coaching ranks as college basketball slowly adjusts to the “new world”. Nothing else to see here.
One of the articles I read, TB reached out to former players to ask if they would have transferred under the current conditions. Many said they were grateful and helped them greatly to develop, but said maybe. I think the fact that he knows now he doesn't have the opportunity to keep and develop guys like that is a big reason he stepped away. Just unbelievable run winning ACC regular season championships.I wonder how Bennett would have felt if Guy, Jerome, and Hunter quit less than 3 weeks before their title season started.
They may have honored it - but there is a chance there that they would not. By doing it this way - they have no choice, Bennett made it 100% guaranteed his guy gets the job, at least for 1 year. It takes any chance of the administration going a different direction out of the equation.I think Bennett is a good coach, and like I mentioned in earlier post and now seeing press conference and his explanation - this was definetley a way to hand over the program to his assistant. You can't tell me he didn't know at the end of last year he didn't NIL and college sports was going to cause a lot of issues. College basketball was in a bad spot last year, and is this year, maybe a little worse, maybe a little better.
But this only makes me think our coach as this is something I can see Mooney pulling off. And to be honest - I am not against it. I think Bennett earned the right - given all the time and wins he gave UVA, to pull this move. And I can see Mooney pulling the same move in the future and handing the program over to Pete Thomas. I don't expect it anytime soon, but its clear Mooney will never be fired at UR based on his history and accomplishments. And let me say - I don't think he should be fired - he won the A10 last year. I am just saying, he has deposited enough in the bank with UR administration where he has reached un-fireable level. Whether you agree with that or not is not the question, that is simply reality. And given that - I could see him wanting to hand the program off to one of his most loyal and longtime players and coaches. Pete Thomas - walk-on to Scholarship player. Starts under JW, finishes under Mooney. Coaches with Mooney - gets to the NCAA, then moves to Campbell. Comes back to UR as associate head coach. Fills in for Mooney when he steps away for medical reasons. All of this screams coach in waiting IF Mooney pulls the same schedule as Bennett and retires (when is the question) just before season starts to allow it to be handed over to assistant.
Not saying its guaranteed to happen. But I think each year Mooney coaches and has good years (top 5 in the A10) and Thomas is by his side, it becomes more and more probable.
I respect your perspective and you make very good points. I’m not an insider on a staff or within an athletic department but I’m not so sure that the NIL and $ negotiations are strictly handled off-season. I think there is a ton of in season tampering and distractions that a coach these days has to deal with. Again, it’s legal and these high paid coaches have to adjust but it’s the Wild West now in terms of the ability to keep a roster in tact that you can coach and develop. Maybe I’m just naive and this stuff has been going on for years behind closed doors but it certainly feels more transactional now.meh. I don't think all that much has changed. yes, coaches can't be emperors any more but that's not a bad thing. NIL is a big recruiting component, but it's handled in the offseason.
you always had unhappy players and parents ... 95% of whom keep their mouths shut when it comes to discussions with a head coach. really good players always considered transferring up, even without the lure of bigger money. players not playing always considered leaving. you always had boosters who felt they should have a bigger say than they do.
I’m going to let the players and the UVA administrators determine if there was something wrong with what Bennett did. I don’t have a problem with it and you and VT do. Agree to disagree.We won't know from the players if they felt "wronged" unless they publicly say so, but that is not something they should do. Yes, players build relationships with assistants, but a head coach - especially one of Bennett's pedigree - likely plays a big role in their decision to play at UVA with his coaching ability, higher level connections, and I am sure he is an overall good guy that players like to be around. Would you want your child's college professor to leave 3 weeks before classes start because they don't like the direction academia is heading, and instead picked the teaching assistant they wanted to lead the class? I don't know what went on behind the scenes, and while I am sure the assistant coaches had a strong idea/flat out knew (why Ron Sanchez left a head coaching position at Charlotte to go to UVA) it may have blindsided the players.
Also, I see where VT is coming from when saying that perhaps UVA would want to explore other coaching options instead of immediately hiring whomever the coach wants as his successor. While I think Bennett has earned the right to pick his successor, I can see the argument for why he shouldn't. Bennett is a hall of fame coach and led UVA to heights never reached before. However, his way of coaching and recruiting may not work in today's college world anymore, with more emphasis on immediate impact transfers, players for 1-2 years, and less development from high school. He retired for this reason, so it does make sense for UVA to consider hiring a coach who is more adapt to today's world of basketball, rather than immediately hiring who Bennett wanted and is likely more of the same thing. Not saying UVA should or shouldn't do it, but I am sure they would've appreciated more time considering their options. Because of Bennett's 11th hour retiring, the department has their hands tied and kind of forced to go the direction of hiring who Bennett wanted (even on an interim basis), which in my opinion is not a fair thing to do to your department that has given you so much over the years.
So very well said.We won't know from the players if they felt "wronged" unless they publicly say so, but that is not something they should do. Yes, players build relationships with assistants, but a head coach - especially one of Bennett's pedigree - likely plays a big role in their decision to play at UVA with his coaching ability, higher level connections, and I am sure he is an overall good guy that players like to be around. Would you want your child's college professor to leave 3 weeks before classes start because they don't like the direction academia is heading, and instead picked the teaching assistant they wanted to lead the class? I don't know what went on behind the scenes, and while I am sure the assistant coaches had a strong idea/flat out knew (why Ron Sanchez left a head coaching position at Charlotte to go to UVA) it may have blindsided the players.
Also, I see where VT is coming from when saying that perhaps UVA would want to explore other coaching options instead of immediately hiring whomever the coach wants as his successor. While I think Bennett has earned the right to pick his successor, I can see the argument for why he shouldn't. Bennett is a hall of fame coach and led UVA to heights never reached before. However, his way of coaching and recruiting may not work in today's college world anymore, with more emphasis on immediate impact transfers, players for 1-2 years, and less development from high school. He retired for this reason, so it does make sense for UVA to consider hiring a coach who is more adapt to today's world of basketball, rather than immediately hiring who Bennett wanted and is likely more of the same thing. Not saying UVA should or shouldn't do it, but I am sure they would've appreciated more time considering their options. Because of Bennett's 11th hour retiring, the department has their hands tied and kind of forced to go the direction of hiring who Bennett wanted (even on an interim basis), which in my opinion is not a fair thing to do to your department that has given you so much over the years.
Trying to read too many posts at once…One of the articles I read, TB reached out to former players to ask if they would have transferred under the current conditions. Many said they were grateful and helped them greatly to develop, but said maybe. I think the fact that he knows now he doesn't have the opportunity to keep and develop guys like that is a big reason he stepped away. Just unbelievable run winning ACC regular season championships.
It wouldn't be UVA basketball if they didn't score in the 40s!!
Maybe they will drop to the Patriot League.It wouldn't be UVA basketball if they didn't score in the 40s!!
I can't comprehend this. no, the guy that negotiated an extension 4 months ago and then quit isn't a part of the program anymore. he doesn't get to pick his replacement.While I think Bennett has earned the right to pick his successor ...
I missed that from his earlier post. I don't think any coach has ever earned the right to pick his successor. And, especially now with Bennett, when he has admitted his way is not the best way to navigate the changes out there. This screams hire someone outside the program after doing a long, thought out search.I can't comprehend this. no, the guy that negotiated an extension 4 months ago and then quit isn't a part of the program anymore. he doesn't get to pick his replacement.
well in this case he does since there'e no time, but unless it goes amazingly well they may look for a permanent replacement after the season.
For me it’s a respect thing. He won a national championship, was 2 time national coach of the year, and won several ACC championships. However, I completely understand the perspective you have that this doesn’t give a 100% pass for him to pick his successor; especially considering UVA’s recent performance and how what worked for Bennett in the past doesn’t appear to fit in today’s college landscape. My bigger point is whether or not UVA decided to go with who Bennett wanted, I am sure they would’ve liked more time to weigh all their options. Instead it was a last minute decision that forced their hand.I can't comprehend this. no, the guy that negotiated an extension 4 months ago and then quit isn't a part of the program anymore. he doesn't get to pick his replacement.
well in this case he does since there'e no time, but unless it goes amazingly well they may look for a permanent replacement after the season.
I completely understand this point of view and am sure there are many people who are fans of UVA basketball that share this sentiment.I missed that from his earlier post. I don't think any coach has ever earned the right to pick his successor. And, especially now with Bennett, when he has admitted his way is not the best way to navigate the changes out there. This screams hire someone outside the program after doing a long, thought out search.
And probably plenty that are more than fine with Bennett picking his guy so I get that top.I completely understand this point of view and am sure there are many people who are fans of UVA basketball that share this sentiment.
sure it counts for something. he did his job well and was well compensated for it. but he really screwed them for 2024-25, and maybe beyond if Sanchez isn't the right guy. he'll have a tough time recruiting this year with an interim label.The dude brought them a national championship and they will in all likelihood never reach that mountaintop again. That should count for something but who knows or really cares (among Spider fans)
Agree 100%. There's a reason why no one other than Charlotte wanted Sanchez or Williford to be their coach the past several years. UVA should be a very attractive job that some of the very best coaches out there would want. Just a selfish move by Bennett.Bennett was a great college coach. I still say this should not afford him the right to enforce/pick the new coach for UVA. I get the coaches that were directly before him were not that good, or in fact bad (Leiato and Gillen 32 games under .500 in ACC in 11 years). But come on, Sanchez was completely mediocre at Charlotte. If you are a UVA fan, you almost have to hope he falls on his face this season to re-inforce they need to go another direction.
There's a reason why no one other than Charlotte wanted Sanchez or Williford to be their coach the past several years.
He admitted he hasn't been into it for awhile now. He hasn't done much recruiting at all. He hasn't even talked with the 2026 recruits because he knew he wouldn't be around for them. Just a terrible look for him IMO. He should have taken a week or two after the season and either decided to be all in this year or retire then. What happens now when lineups get juked around? Players' minutes change? He might have thought all the players would be "okay" with his decision, but no chance. There will likely be multiple times this year where some guys think about their coach quitting on them. Will they all respond with fire and 100% committment? I doubt it. How ridiculous for Bennett to think this was the right way to do this and all would be okay.all true, but you can be true to yourself and your family without screwing the university who paid you tens of millions of dollars, the athletes you recruited, and the alumni who supported you.