Transfer news
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We currently have 14 scholarship players. I'm not sure we're in a race to collect transfers any longer. If we were not returning Cayo, Golden, and Gilyard, this is a much different question. But now?
I'm not sure about that. We have 2 open scholarships (with or without the returning seniors), if we aren't looking to add two HS players that will enroll in the fall, I think we should still be searching for transfers. Just not 1 year post grad transfers. But we should look at anyone who proved themselves for a year or two and now wants a change.
Just want to be sure I'm reading this correctly. These are players that need to commit somewhere so they can enroll in the fall?
Offers
- Madison Durr (PG: Pace Academy, Atlanta, GA) - UAB, Elon, Siena, FGCU, North Alabama
- AJ Williams (PG: Oak Hill Academy, Henrico, VA) - Virginia Tech, Ole Miss, GW, ODU, Towson, and more
- Lucas Taylor (SG: Heritage HS, Wake Forest, NC) - Reopened recruitment after committing to Clemson
- Aaron Lemon-Warren (SF: Archbishop Ryan HS, Philadelphia, PA) - SLU, Bowling Green, Drexel
- Saint Thomas (SF: Millard North HS, Omaha, NE) - Original Top 7: UR, VCU, TCU, Mississippi State, New Mexico, SMU, Pepperdine
Unless we get two of them, I say we keep an eye on the transfer market.
Offers
- Madison Durr (PG: Pace Academy, Atlanta, GA) - UAB, Elon, Siena, FGCU, North Alabama
- AJ Williams (PG: Oak Hill Academy, Henrico, VA) - Virginia Tech, Ole Miss, GW, ODU, Towson, and more
- Lucas Taylor (SG: Heritage HS, Wake Forest, NC) - Reopened recruitment after committing to Clemson
- Aaron Lemon-Warren (SF: Archbishop Ryan HS, Philadelphia, PA) - SLU, Bowling Green, Drexel
- Saint Thomas (SF: Millard North HS, Omaha, NE) - Original Top 7: UR, VCU, TCU, Mississippi State, New Mexico, SMU, Pepperdine
Unless we get two of them, I say we keep an eye on the transfer market.
Correct. Saint is announcing this afternoon. Lucas also recently committed to Wake, so I need to update that.
if I was an immediately eligible transfer and I strictly played the 1, 3, 4 or 5 positions, I would not be very interested in transferring to UR this year.
unless I feel I'm better than the projected starters at those positions. in which case I likely have a slew of P5 programs all over me.
unless I feel I'm better than the projected starters at those positions. in which case I likely have a slew of P5 programs all over me.
We play positionless basketball here, didn't you get the memo?
Transfers want to play right away. Especially since they will not have to sit out. Given we have everyone right now returning except Francis - I don't see anyone coming to UR through a transfer. And if they do - we are hoping they are young and will be here for 2-3 years and they will be happy to sit on the bench next season to wait their turn.
Wouldnt mind seeing us add a transfer that we can redshirt although that is not a likely outcome.
Agree, and it looks like the open starting spot from last year could have 4 or 5 quality guys battling for playing time there. Most transfers are looking for immediate playing time. I think it has been mentioned on here we should add all these 1 year guys for depth, and so they can push our starters, but it works both ways, and does that really sound good to a transfer who has 1 year left, and has a ton of options out there?
I’m not reading 1 year guys only at all it could be any transfer, could be ones w 3 or even 4 years left. We have 2 ships we should always be in the market for good players & the portal provides a way to find more known commodities.
& we were an 8th place team that lost its leading scorer & hasn’t been to NCAA since 2011. Who is afraid of competing w that.
Frankly, I wouldn't want to take another point guard as a transfer. I want to ride with Gilyard, and nurture Wilson and Nelson. Adding a more senior PG would very much risk alienating one or both of those other two--I don't think that's a good risk or roster decision.
So IF we are still in the transfer market, I'd want it to be a younger (FR or SO) tall person. To the point others have raised, I can't see rising seniors, or graduated seniors, wanting to come here given the amount of PT that is likely. But if we can get a developmental younger tall person, I'd be in for that.
And for the argument regarding "we have two open 'ships"... I hear you, but "two open 'ships" where you only have 11 guys is a big difference from "two open 'ships" where you already have 14. I think that helps alleviate the depth concern.
So IF we are still in the transfer market, I'd want it to be a younger (FR or SO) tall person. To the point others have raised, I can't see rising seniors, or graduated seniors, wanting to come here given the amount of PT that is likely. But if we can get a developmental younger tall person, I'd be in for that.
And for the argument regarding "we have two open 'ships"... I hear you, but "two open 'ships" where you only have 11 guys is a big difference from "two open 'ships" where you already have 14. I think that helps alleviate the depth concern.
The flip side to keep in mind is that younger guys may be less likely to use their extra year the further removed they get from the pandemic. This year's seniors have the bitter taste of an unfulfilled season that they want to get rid of. Will next year's seniors feel the same, or will they be ready to move on?
If everybody moves on, we'll lose six guys next year (3 super-seniors and 3 seniors), so it would be nice to have more than eight guys with time in the program ready to hit the floor in 2022-23.
But yes, it would absolutely need to be the right guy coming in at this point...a big with a few years still to play being the biggest need.
If everybody moves on, we'll lose six guys next year (3 super-seniors and 3 seniors), so it would be nice to have more than eight guys with time in the program ready to hit the floor in 2022-23.
But yes, it would absolutely need to be the right guy coming in at this point...a big with a few years still to play being the biggest need.
SF, that's my concern too. I don't think us fans will know what next year's seniors' plans are unless someone pins them down in an interview. It's going to be tricky for everyone the next few years.
While I don't think we're a prime destination for a big right now with Golden and Cayo back, we'll be very attractive next year no matter what Matt and Sal decide.
I agree with kneepad that PG shouldn't be a target right now, but I think we've shown we're clearly interested in an SG we consider special like Williams or Kolek to add competition and depth there.
While I don't think we're a prime destination for a big right now with Golden and Cayo back, we'll be very attractive next year no matter what Matt and Sal decide.
I agree with kneepad that PG shouldn't be a target right now, but I think we've shown we're clearly interested in an SG we consider special like Williams or Kolek to add competition and depth there.
I am not saying we are in desperate need of a transfer. I am saying with 2 open scholarships, we should keep an eye on the market.
If someone who has played as a competent backup at a P5 in his freshman year, and thinks he can successfully compete with Matt & Sal for time this upcoming season and be a starter the next, we might want to encourage him to try it.
Same if someone got a reasonable amount of time at a lower school his freshman year, proved he was developing and wanted to move up in competition.
I know these scenarios will be more rare with the upcoming "no sit" season.
If someone who has played as a competent backup at a P5 in his freshman year, and thinks he can successfully compete with Matt & Sal for time this upcoming season and be a starter the next, we might want to encourage him to try it.
Same if someone got a reasonable amount of time at a lower school his freshman year, proved he was developing and wanted to move up in competition.
I know these scenarios will be more rare with the upcoming "no sit" season.
I would not hate this, I just think it is very unlikely. And therefore pretty obtuse to respond to every guy that commits elsewhere in a fashion of "well, looks like Mooney failed again...".
I think next year, with the openings you have identified, we really do need to be active in the transfer market.
If Nick and Crabtree return healthy, I am not sure what I would be looking for with the two scholarships. Maybe one goofy big guy as usual and another (Mooney’s only forte) very good <6’ PG.
I’m sorry, but we don’t have notable depth at either 4 or 5, and there’s an open competition at 2.
I don’t think 1yr transfers would be interested if they’re bigs, but if I’ve got more than a couple years left and I feel I’m capable, we should be a reasonably attractive target. There will certainly be room at 4, and anyone who plays good defense and or has competent passing skills would be competitive at 5, if not next season certainly the season after.
I don’t think 1yr transfers would be interested if they’re bigs, but if I’ve got more than a couple years left and I feel I’m capable, we should be a reasonably attractive target. There will certainly be room at 4, and anyone who plays good defense and or has competent passing skills would be competitive at 5, if not next season certainly the season after.
Hey Mooney get a defensive 5. Promise some kid 15 minutes a game this year and a starting spot next year. That is a NEED for us. Would fix a huge hole if someone could sure up the defense around the rim
Exactly, a rim protector, aka a Darrius Garrett type player would be great. Garrett was great in a reserve role, offered a true change of pace from Geriot and was a difference making player on defense and intimidating as hell.
This is a huge hole in our team and would clear up the most glaring weakness, interior defense, rebounding, and toughness. We should absolutely be hitting up every transfer who fits this bill.
And no, I don't think these guys will be in huge demand, we aren't looking for a starter, we are looking for a reserve interior player with some good athletic abilities.
We have three 6’9”+ players with 15 fouls to give. The bad thing is that our fouls are always “and 1’s”. Our guys are slow and weak and usually foul after the shot has been made.
called that a mortal lock weeks ago. They r deeper than we r but look to improve upon the roster always.
Good programs are always looking for ways to improve. Here, Mooney is like hey we finished 8th in the league last year, we good, lets run it back. There is nothing we need to improve on personal wise. Getting on this grad transfer wagon, would mean interupting his spring sabatical period as well.
They’re pretty much always loaded. And we should pretty much always beat them.
In other news Bones Hyland declared and will hire an agent.
So when I ask if you are certain?
”Make no bones about it”
This team is setup for any 2 guard grad transfer to come in and play right away. Doesn't sound like we are hitting the market which is unfortunate for what this team needs next year.
Bones entering draft - not a bad idea. He should go through the process after the year he had. Hiring an agent so now he can't return - terrible idea. I just don't see him getting drafted in the first round, which is the guarantee contract.
I read somewhere that if a player puts his/her name in the portal - at that point the school can pull their scholarship. I wonder if this will deter players from testing the waters. School can tell players - if you put your name in, you will not have a spot to come back to.
I read somewhere that if a player puts his/her name in the portal - at that point the school can pull their scholarship. I wonder if this will deter players from testing the waters. School can tell players - if you put your name in, you will not have a spot to come back to.
Maybe play, but the question would be how much would they play? We know Jacob will get a ton of minutes, so a grad transfer would be competing with Wilson, Dji, Andre, and our new incoming freshman for playing time. Maybe they beat them out and get most of the playing time, but maybe they don't. I think grad transfers, especially good ones looking for a lot of playing time, are looking for more definites than maybes.
Bones is a heck of a player, and I think he will make it in the NBA. I wish him the best. As far as teams telling players they won't have a spot if they test the waters, that would not be a smart thing to do. Other coaches would certainly use that against you during recruiting. Support your players, and if they are good enough to investigate the NBA, you back them 100%, and if you have room for them to come back, you absolutely take them back.
He was saying testing waters relative to portal I believe, not nba. Certainly agree on the nba exploration, so few guys are gonna go that your chances are high you’ll have them back.
I think transfer portal is different. I had on a other thread that I think it’s fair to question a players commitment if they say they want to see what else is out there. You don’t owe them their spot back if they do that, if they’re good you’ll be hard pressed to replace them but I’d they’re fair to middling, it seems reasonable to me that you’d just replace them if you find someone equal or better if you have an option.
I generally agree, although I don’t really have a problem with a guy who enters the portal after a coaching change and then decides to come back. The new staff really does need to re-recruit the guys in some cases.
Seems pretty rare that you see a guy enter the portal and ultimately not transfer when a coaching change isn’t involved.
Gonzo is obviously an exception with a lot of relevance for us, although that was in the days before the portal. He recognized that a lot of the initial decision was immaturity on his part, and it seems to have worked out well for everybody in that situation.
Seems pretty rare that you see a guy enter the portal and ultimately not transfer when a coaching change isn’t involved.
Gonzo is obviously an exception with a lot of relevance for us, although that was in the days before the portal. He recognized that a lot of the initial decision was immaturity on his part, and it seems to have worked out well for everybody in that situation.
It is official. Hyland is no longer a Ram. He was injured a lot last season. He is still an unproven talent.
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VCU sophomore Bones Hyland to sign with agent entering 2021 NBA Draft
VCU’s beloved star guard Bones Hyland has made it official, he intends to move forward with his NBA aspirations, announcing today on Twitter that he would be signing with an agent and enterin…
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Thanks for the heads up there. After reading his post again, I realize he was talking about transferring. I agree with you. Would not be a good situation to welcome those guys back. I think it would hurt team chemistry, and you cannot help but question their commitment.
I would be shocked if Bones Hyland is drafted. Nice player but I don't see either A. NBA level athleticism or B. A single NBA caliber skill that could overcome A.
Any player taken in the draft most likely has both A and B but they need to have at least one of them and he doesn't have either.
He can catch on in the D league though and obviously play in Europe if he wants and earn a nice living. Kind of the same as Blake declaring for the NBA draft. Looks good on their social media and that is about it.
Any player taken in the draft most likely has both A and B but they need to have at least one of them and he doesn't have either.
He can catch on in the D league though and obviously play in Europe if he wants and earn a nice living. Kind of the same as Blake declaring for the NBA draft. Looks good on their social media and that is about it.
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