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I agree with Spider23. I don't really want to add another guard to the mix. We need length and size and frontcourt athleticism.
We need a front court player, yet the only guy I see us really after is a guard for a team that already has 6 players who are already guards on this year's roster. If we were to land him, I'd have to think that possibly one of our other recruited players might look to transfer, espicially with Gilly back, that is a lot of minutes that are young players were looking for this next year and suddenly they are gone.
 
I would like our chances if Nick and Golden come back. I still have the feeling Blake was more of an outsider and won’t be back.
 
I'm actually interested in what happens with Crabtree. I know it's been a long time, but I think he's really good. I believe he did play the 2 at Tulane. tough to see much time behind Burton at the 3.
Crabtree and Nick splitting time would help keep both fresh and healthy.
 
Assuming nobody leaves, we're up to 14 scholarship guys now. I wouldn't say no to a frosh big for developmental purposes, but otherwise I don't see us bringing anyone else new in at this point.
 
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I think there’s still some urgency to get a big but agree that we should be focused on a four year option rather than a transfer given Grants return.
 
I think there’s still some urgency to get a big but agree that we should be focused on a four year option rather than a transfer given Grants return.
I would be stunned if Mooney didn’t know who was and wasn’t coming back as of several days ago. The staff has hopefully been recruiting accordingly.
 
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I would be stunned if Mooney didn’t know who was and wasn’t coming back as of several days ago. The staff has hopefully been recruiting accordingly.
agreed. I thought we'd be all over every 6'8"+ guy, but I think he knew we had Cayo and Golden coming back. they were just working on graphics for the intagram releases.

the fact we reached out to Kolek and Healey might indicate that Blake and Nick aren't coming back.
 
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Quick...say something else.
Like Garza, Butler, Mobley & Suggs to transfer in...
Urmite, no hard feelings, but if that worked I would be wishing for Christie Brinkley or Melania Trump. 😂
 
Assuming nobody leaves, we're up to 14 scholarship guys now. I wouldn't say no to a frosh big for developmental purposes, but otherwise I don't see us bringing anyone else new in at this point.

think that is short sighted but probably accurate. Personally think we should be all over getting a good player in the portal to add to the mix. Someone hungry. Let them fight for pt. Or just like Golden said we may be saying what if later.
 
G, that is not or never been the MO with Mooney. Bring in a top talent that might challenge a veterans minutes. WHOOOO, how would Mooney manage the team and minutes.

I remember Tarrant, man you had Shields and the jumper from NC about to kill each other for minutes. Both very good talents. Fleming and Blair battling for minutes. Etc Etc.
 
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agreed. I thought we'd be all over every 6'8"+ guy, but I think he knew we had Cayo and Golden coming back. they were just working on graphics for the intagram releases.

the fact we reached out to Kolek and Healey might indicate that Blake and Nick aren't coming back.
We could still be reaching out to 6'8 guys and pretty much anyone else, but it works both ways, and the transfer, especially a good big or PG with just one year left, also has to see a fit, and will usually be looking for a lot of playing time.
 
I don't think any good big in the portal is looking for a part time role behind Grant and Nathan with Matt and Sal in competition. bigs in the portal will have better options. tons of schools have openings.

I think any thought of McKoy ended with Cayo coming back.
 
G, that is not or never been the MO with Mooney. Bring in a top talent that might challenge a veterans minutes. WHOOOO, how would Mooney manage the team and minutes.

I remember Tarrant, man you had Shields and the jumper from NC about to kill each other for minutes. Both very good talents. Fleming and Blair battling for minutes. Etc Etc.
That's a great point about the "internal" competition. It's seemed to be lacking for the past few years. Once the current #don'tcallthemthat senior/grad group took over the team, mostly as Freshmen, the pecking order has been established. Had Nick not been injured, there would certainly have been more of that - which is healthy for a successful team.

Our transfers out have mostly been guys who were not going to see significant playing time; advance knowledge that several of our players would take advantage of the free 5th or 6th year would not appeal to some. Others will be fine to "wait their turn" - considering they're getting a free year, too.

Starters with unchallenged PT could be a contributing factor to our inactivity in the portal. Obviously, the players like the coach and want to stay, too.
 
I don't buy the "unchallenged competition" talk. there's always internal competition.
but Grace and Sal didn't beat out Grant or Nate. Grant and Nate are good.
Burton would have had to fight for more time, but Nick got hurt.
Blake beat someone out when he became eligible 2 years ago. Dji and Isaiah were freshmen. they didn't beat Blake out.
Goose have been fighting for time. just not winning.
and nobody was beating out Gilyard.
 
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We could still be reaching out to 6'8 guys and pretty much anyone else, but it works both ways, and the transfer, especially a good big or PG with just one year left, also has to see a fit, and will usually be looking for a lot of playing time.
With Golden & Cayo back, I wouldn't necessarily be looking for someone 6'8" to 6'10" with one year left, but someone who has only used one year but wants to change. Just not sure how easy to find.
Or to convince limited playing time this year, other years it would have been a redshirt.
 
With Golden & Cayo back, I wouldn't necessarily be looking for someone 6'8" to 6'10" with one year left, but someone who has only used one year but wants to change. Just not sure how easy to find.
Or to convince limited playing time this year, other years it would have been a redshirt.
yeah, I think the "immediately eligible" transfer rule and extra year for everyone hurts us badly here. in a normal year, a big kid is looking at how rosters will look like in 2022-23 and ours would be very attractive.
 
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I don't buy the "unchallenged competition" talk. there's always internal competition.
but Grace and Sal didn't beat out Grant or Nate. Grant and Nate are good.
Burton would have had to fight for more time, but Nick got hurt.
Blake beat someone out when he became eligible 2 years ago. Dji and Isaiah were freshmen. they didn't beat Blake out.
Goose have been fighting for time. just not winning.
and nobody was beating out Gilyard.
To be fair, in recent memory we've only had one starter "lose" his starting job, and he transferred out.
He may have been an unexpected starter out of necessity, but the fact remains.
 
you'd think Hawaii would have more hoops success. I know it's far, but come on. you should be able to recruit there.
 
you'd think Hawaii would have more hoops success. I know it's far, but come on. you should be able to recruit there.

I agree. I think it’s gotta be hard for a coach to convince mom and dad to let their kid move across an ocean and be in a time zone where you probably won’t be able to watch their games
 
Brutal road trips for them, although they don't have much trouble getting home games, and their conference trips are scheduled so they can get back-to-back games in.
 
you'd think Hawaii would have more hoops success. I know it's far, but come on. you should be able to recruit there.

I like their coach. Keep an eye on Eran Ganot. he's good imo even though they r not exactly lighting it up. east coaster too originally. But solid enough for Hawaii. They did win first ever NCAA game 5 years ago under him. I think u can win there a little more & they've had periodic success but it's more of a football school and travel is tough.

What kills me is they never should have changed from the Rainbows though. Never understood it. Next to the Spiders the best nickname and logo there was. I have a great old Hawaii Rainbows shirt, my parents lived there a long time ago before I was even born, but the thing is too small now and it's hard to find vintage Rainbows gear. I don't have a connection to UH beyond that but I still say bring back the Rainbows!
 
I don’t understand the back and forth regarding seniors staying for another year. Oh, this appeals to the diehards, wishing next year will break the curse. ”I have lost that lovin’ feeling” knowing CM will also be back.
 
Damn. UVA to UNC? I think you could have gotten arrested for that 30 years ago. Legit wonder if it's ever happened before?
Tech had a football transfer come in from uva. He was UVA’s starting long snapper and transferred to Tech, he is also a direct descendent of Thomas Jefferson. Pretty strange.
 
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