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So this isn’t his average game?
| STARTERS | MIN | FG | 3PT | FT | OREB | DREB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | PTS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| N. HylandG | 30 | 1-6 | 1-5 | 0-0 | 0 | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 3 |
Can we move the bones discussion to another thread, preferably on the VCU boards?
Thanks for providing evidence that he primarily scores a lot against average or worse teams. He's a volume shooter. That's great at this level, but he won't ever have the chance to be that in the NBA, and it won't get him drafted in the first round as a sophomore.
Know DT doesn't necessary mean Duke and UK (add Mich St for me) making it but see enough other P5/6 schools getting the bids for whatever reasons the committee wants to use. Haven't followed things as intensely this season but tell me if wrong looking at these numbers. So 31 conference tourney champs get in which leaves 37 at-large bids left. I guess NET is a priority for selection but LOL at Colgate going up (not down) to #11.
So UR sits at #54. Looking at NET and Kenny and the sort, other mids ahead of UR getting a bid. For discussion sake out of the 37 at-large bids left AAC gets 1. WC BYU gets 1. Drake with injury could go into freefall so say 0 for MVC. The MW varies, but say 2. And right now either VCU or Bonny get 1 from the A10. So I count 5 leaving 32 at-large bids left. And not taking into account any surprises conference tourney winners in those mid conferences. Plus maybe conservative with the 5 number above?
Now going to the P5/6 conferences ....
1) Big Ten with NET 10 teams inside 50 and 11 with Indiana at #51. LOL but Penn St at #31. Kenny has 11 inside top 50.
2) Big 12 has 7 teams inside both NET and Kenny top 50.
3) SEC has 6 top 50 NET teams but Miss looks like a team on a roll to make it 7.
4) ACC only 5 inside top NET 50 but Cuse, NC close behind and Duke #66 . Kenny has 7 with Duke at #36 LOL.
5) Big East has only 4 inside both NET and Kenny top 50.
6) Pac12 has 5 teams in both NET and Kenny but could easily drop to 4.
Possible outcome for getting at-large bids .....
8 Big Ten
6 Big 12
4 SEC
4 ACC
3 Big East
4 Pac 12
Adds up to 29 P5/6 schools getting in leaving 3 bids for mids available. And disregard a losing conference record knocks out a bid for P5/6 school. We all know the committee has given those teams bids in the past. Probably conservative with the above 29 number too?
And finally my biggest concern for the A10 not getting more than 1 bid. I take mighty Ohio St football as an example. No doubt most fans thought of them as a top 4 team this season. Though since they played a small sample size schedule the doubters were still keen on making their voices heard that they weren't legit.
Now put the above scenario into CBB and the A10. Compared to the P5/6 whatever the reasons may be the A10 has not handled COVID well. The total league games played comparison for the A10 compared the big boys is poor.
So when the committee is discussing the A10 getting at-large bids does the small sample get brought up? And if asked by Jim Nantz Sunday night on why whoever from the A10 or maybe another mid league didn't get in, is that the answer? That's why i see a lot of validity in DT's post.
PS Look at the plenty of bubble P5/6 schools that could sneak in late like Stanford, MInny, Indiana, G Tech, Cuse, Miss, St John 's, and the percentage of played league games. Way more presently compared to both UR and St Louis. Mooney's team needs to win out is an understatement. No doubt if UR gets an at-large they earned it!
I like the breakdown, but I disagree that we need to win out. I think we have to win out against any team not named VCU and St. Louis. I think we will still be just on the right side of the bubble heading into conference tourney time if we at least split with VCU. I can't decide about losing to St. Louis if we only have one game and it is at St. Louis. We can't lose to Bonnies again.
No way Penn State gets an at-large. No. Way.
So now Hyland is Steph Curry? Really? Please, keep talking. I'm enjoying the absurdity of this, and I have nowhere to go.
Loyola up 33-30 on drake. Might knock drake to the wrong side of the bubble if they can pull off their second win in a row.
Loyola stretching it out to a nine point lead. This is about the same time they pulled ahead yesterday too.
loyola & Hofstra both lose. I wish our resume was stronger but it’s really not imo. but it can still be improved.
I like to change that to 1 at-large for MVC lol. And maybe 31 at-large bids left. Drake will now rise above 40 NET and getting closer to UR with Kenny. Looking at Drake's remaining schedule, Mooney has to hope for NI to upset them.
He shouldn't be drafted as a Sophomore and don't expect to see that line ever again. Give him one more year and he's a first 5 pick. Apparently the Bonnies are average or worse I guess. Kind of like Kentucky-NOT!
Now, let's all go get our Basketball Jones on and watch a good game.
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I heard most NBA scouts think Bones will have a better NBA career than Michael Jordan, of course after he is a top 5 draft pick next year.
Imagine if he stayed all four years. The NBA probably would allow him to be the first player ever to circumvent the player draft and
instead draft his own team!
instead draft his own team!
He does need to do his Jr. year as I stated. He's showing as 2nd round this year.
Dayton with yet another highly coveted recruit:
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Lynn Greer commits to Dayton – Flyers Add to Top 25 Recruiting Class
Dayton’s strongest recruiting class in program history added more muscle on Monday morning as Lynn Greer announced his commitment to the Flyers. A shifty 6’3″ three-star point gua…
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Since the 2014 draft, a junior has been taken in the top 5 of the draft on only one occasion. That player was significantly better than Bones
Hyland is tied for 14th in the nation in most three-pointers made. Six other worldbeaters ahead of him have a better 3-point shooting percentage, so I think they also belong in the discussion for top-5 draft status: Spencer Littleson of Toledo, Quincy Olivari of Rice, Tajion Jones of UNCA, Travis Evee of Rice, Luke Smith of Belmont and Dru Kuxhausden of McNeese.
Unfortunately, he is only 31st in the nation in points scored, but we know that he would be first if the other teams would just stop defending him so much, those jerks.
His assist to turnover ratio of 0.63 (35 assists, 56 turnovers) sadly ranks him outside of the top 300, but NBA teams typically do prefer players who can pass effectively either to their own team or the other one, and he’s demonstrated an ability to do that very well.
Also worth noting: he gets 3 offensive rebounds...so far this season. So once every 7 games, he gets one. Actually, why didn’t we recruit this guy?
Unfortunately, he is only 31st in the nation in points scored, but we know that he would be first if the other teams would just stop defending him so much, those jerks.
His assist to turnover ratio of 0.63 (35 assists, 56 turnovers) sadly ranks him outside of the top 300, but NBA teams typically do prefer players who can pass effectively either to their own team or the other one, and he’s demonstrated an ability to do that very well.
Also worth noting: he gets 3 offensive rebounds...so far this season. So once every 7 games, he gets one. Actually, why didn’t we recruit this guy?
Easy guys, we have to play him Wednesday, and he may be reading the board: DonT mAKe bOOneS AnGRy!!!!!
Man with that stat line he'd be the best, worst offensive re-bounder we ever had.
Not slandering him at all. He seems like a nice kid and is a good A10 player. I'm simply illustrating through facts the absurdity of some of the claims made about him.
He certainly could go off for 40 points on Wednesday night against us, and tbh I hope he does. That means he's taking 25+ shots at the expense of involving the rest of their team, and we'll likely win. I'm more concerned if he has 15 points or so because that means their other players are probably scoring more.
He certainly could go off for 40 points on Wednesday night against us, and tbh I hope he does. That means he's taking 25+ shots at the expense of involving the rest of their team, and we'll likely win. I'm more concerned if he has 15 points or so because that means their other players are probably scoring more.
Now if he gets 40 points on 15 shots along with 15 assists I'm going to blame you...
He def knows we are his rival after his pissed off the ODU fans for not knowing they were a rival prior to their game this year.
Maybe Bones should be like the kid at Duke that is taking off the rest of the year to prepare for the NBA draft...
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