Mooney supporters have spoken
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but I was talking about Shaver and W&M.
I agree I was in the wrong thread, but not every post and thought relates to Mooney.
I guess to point out to those 81 people that he needed to be in trouble. Apparently it worked.
So, did 30 or 40 of the 81 just send an email to Hardt saying "never mind" after watching this game?
No take backs, they should have to follow him wherever he goes since he is so beloved.
I seriously doubt we could have won the Division III national championships in fb and bb with the teams and coaches we had this past year.
Are you kidding me? Of course, not. I know, for one, Randolp Macon would have kicked our ass badly.
Part of the dynamic is the same one we had at Richmond before Dick Tarrant became our coach. There was no expectation to win the conference tournament. Richmond was in the Southern Conference from 1937 to 1976 - and never finished higher than second in the conference tournament in all those years.
The other half were VCU fans.
81 employees former students and family members most likely. It is absolutely embarrassing that someone put this together. As if a few dozen signatures from his close friends and associates might sway the decision of the AD to DO HIS JOB. Really, these people are embarrassing. Its like parents ranting to a coach because a kid got cur from the team. OMG the more I write, the more ridiculous this seems. And its not like its an absolutely subjective job performance thing like a waiter at TGI Fridays? There is a win/lose record that is not subjective.
HARDT SHOULD BE APPAULED BY THIS NONSENSE.
I know nothing about football, but I know this is a patently false statement about hoops. Take it from someone who could’ve played hoops at DIII. richmond’s talent and even coaching is light years ahead of them regardless of your opinion of Mooney.
The game now is that D3 is full of D1 guys, this coming from a D3 coach that used to coach my kid in AAU ball (and made a run in the D3 tourney last year. I have seen this myself. AND, actually anyone can make a D3 roster, as long as you have a good attitude and willing to work.
I’m sorry, but that’s your son’s old coach blowing smoke. I was recruited to play D3, I’ve played all my life with kids who were D2 and D3. In college I played with some of our Richmond D1 players. It’s a completely different level.
Are there D3 kids who could cut it in D1? Sure, but they’re the exception and not the rule.
Nope, point is a lot of the top d3 schools get transfer downs from d1. School out of new haven had two p6 transfers in the back court recently.
Players’ and school’s name?
Is this similar to some of Richmond’s transfers (like Schneider) who weren’t really D1 players? Or were these serviceable D1 players who left for other reasons?
McKillop is a very good coach, no doubt. Best thing that ever happened to him was Seth Greenberg not recruiting Steph Curry - despite his dad, Dell, being an all time great at VT. McKillop landed Curry and Steph has helped that program beyond measure.
No, these guys were players. Albertus Magnus is the school, not an academic powerhouse for sure. Guys were sketchy as hell but good. One was Tavon Sledge, now you are making me use my Googling skills - not much D3 info out there. Iowa State>Iona>AM. they had another guy too. Not saying this is the norm for most of D3, but pretty much the norm for much of the top 20 in D3. This guy is not a smoke blower. I was watching the summer league in Hartford a few years back, and there was this little lefty killing people, looked better than KO in my opinion. I asked where he played - D3 Western Connecticut. Looked him up and originally had committed to Huggy Bear at WVA but grades must have been really bad.
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Your father is most likely correct. My terminology is usually the "slim and none" on chances and slim may well be going out the door.
I finally read that letter of support. Mostly consisted of soft reasoning & a few reaches for justification. For example - lack of graduate degrees. Somebody tell me how many players transferred out truly for a grad degree available elsewhere as opposed to wanting play in an NCAA tournament. I'll give some credence about attracting grad transfers, but for the most part that hasn't been our history nor does it amount to a player or so each year. No mention of the numbers of players recruited that left & ended up at D2 schools.
I didn't see any mention of the real information & facts to support a slightly above .500 coach over a 14 year period and currently in a downward trend after this many years. The letter was fluff & not much more.
My gut tells me the decision has already been made, and I'd be shocked if we have a new coach to take us in fresh directions next year. Very frustrating for those of us who have been with this program 30, 40, or 50 years. I'm afraid those who perpetuate mediocrity will be very happy. Mediocrity and no NCAA's since 2011 must be very satisfying for some.
I didn't see any mention of the real information & facts to support a slightly above .500 coach over a 14 year period and currently in a downward trend after this many years. The letter was fluff & not much more.
My gut tells me the decision has already been made, and I'd be shocked if we have a new coach to take us in fresh directions next year. Very frustrating for those of us who have been with this program 30, 40, or 50 years. I'm afraid those who perpetuate mediocrity will be very happy. Mediocrity and no NCAA's since 2011 must be very satisfying for some.
Well, if he's back next year, Hardt is making our decision for us: no more giving to UR athletics of any kind until Mooney is gone, and maybe not even then. Why give money when they don't even listen to the rank and file fan?
"You can't win a Division III championship with division III players." Is something my Division III coach would always mutter at us in between tipping his flask at practice. You may still be perceived as a "D1" athlete but the competition is far weaker as is the coaching. The lower the revenue the sport the more likely you are to run into that problem. Not as big in football and basketball since they're so many scholarships to go around.
I am pretty sure Hardt was appalled by the billboard. I am so tired of your sanctimonious, self-righteous, know-it-all comments.
Before I get banned, let me put this guy on ignore so I don't have to read any more of his nonsense.
Well the ST buyers who've had to suffer through the torture of two losing seasons, including watching 10 losses at home this year, are speaking as well in messages & taking their dollars elsewhere. When you're leading in 20 of your 33 games with 5:00 minutes to go and you lose 20 of them, it comes down to poor coaching, terrible game management, and not having an aggressive "put your boots on their throats" offensive & defensive strategy.
This should appall every Spider fan, or at least give them some concern. It's not just this season, but this was going on pre-sweet 16 run. We've never closed games very well, and this year was one of the worst in closing games. You can't keep using the excuse of "we're young" or "we're short handed" every year. It's coaching...pure and simple.
I went back and reread the excerpts from the letter in the article. Those comments are from someone that does not understand the proper way to run a successful D1 program. The author must think only top academic scholars can be successful at UR. He fails to acknowledge average or slightly above average students (and shock even slightly below) with proper support can still graduate on time from UR. He fails to recognize that recruiting is a CONSTANT challenge for all schools, a challenge that can be met with proper evaluation and strong relationships. With proper recruiting and training you have a regular flow of student athletes that maintain a competitive program.
For perspective:
WOFFORD COLLEGE: Enrollment 1,592, small liberal arts college with HIGH ACADEMIC STANDARDS
Basketball record: 29-4, only lost to North Carolina, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Mississippi all P-5
Head Coach: Mike Young 2018-19 National Coach of the Year, Sporting News
Their football team has made the FCS playoffs 8 times in the last 12 years, including 2016 2017 and 2018
Get real, Dr. Palazzolo..............
I enjoyed Dr. Palazzolo. Not sure I trust his capacity for objectivity given this letter, But good professor.
Did Trinity beat Hampton,Wyoming and Longwood while he was there?
Tell me 1 thing that I said that is not accurate in that post. And of course he was appalled by the billboard. But he should be just as appalled by this letter, and I explained my reasoning in that post so wont bother again. And Im sorry you take the posts on this board personally. We are all just expressing opinions about a basketball program.
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Anyone that calls any poster sanctimonious, self righteous, and a know it all followed by pretending to put the person on ignore is addled. Clearly he doesn’t know it all.
Wofford will be wearing home whites in the first round of the NCAA tournament.
