McGlade is on ESPN Richmond right now, and I at least feel better about the level of advocacy she's engaged with on our behalf. She also says we are looking at re-starting the challenge with the Mountain West and/or possibly one with the American.
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this article made no sense. Spider fan all I’ve learned from this is there are some really dumb people out there who get to write this stuff. His points don’t make any sense, almost seems like an intentional hit piece. This isn’t a serious person
Agree. I think joe and the rest know who the committee wants in the tourney, and professes that regardless of the actual outcome of the games. I
It would be an absolute crime… potentially even in fraud… if Richmond makes the finals of the A10 tourney, loses to Dayton and doesn’t get a bid to the big dance. This sport is trending in the wrong direction so unfortunately wouldn’t surprise me.
It feels like this stuff is a self-fulfilling prophecy. One or two people say the A10 is a one-bid league if Dayton wins it and then the rest of mankind regurgitates that endlessly as if it's the gospel. On the game last night, the announcers said the same thing, as if they had any idea.
"It's been a great league, but Richmond and Loyola have to cut down the nets or else they're not going to the tournament."
BS! Stop saying that crap when you have no freaking idea. If anything, those are the guys who ought to be changing the narrative! They've called all these games all year! They know it's a good league -- say so! Just total garbage the way everyone falls in line.
"It's been a great league, but Richmond and Loyola have to cut down the nets or else they're not going to the tournament."
BS! Stop saying that crap when you have no freaking idea. If anything, those are the guys who ought to be changing the narrative! They've called all these games all year! They know it's a good league -- say so! Just total garbage the way everyone falls in line.
I stand by the Drake example. Played zero P6 teams this season. Two good wins on the year, one loss to a losing team. Didn't win their league, lost 4 games in it. Lost 5 games to middling teams overall.
I guess if we had played Nevada instead of UNLV we'd have a NET in the 40s too?
I guess if we had played Nevada instead of UNLV we'd have a NET in the 40s too?
I get the sentiment, but I'm sorry, but until earlier this week STB was ranked ahead of us in the NET which makes it hard to take that thing serious. 6th/7th place St. Bonaventure. I don't care what math they use, there is no justification for a ranking system like this to be considered the main metric of selecting teams. Im convinced the NET was created by a bunch of nerds who don't understand basketball, so created math formulas to show how smart they are when discussing the topic.
TBH we have some bad losses, graned DLO was out for many of them so I hope that counts for something. I can live with not being considered on the bubble and would rather just win the whole damn thing.
What blows my mind is how Dayton is being treated. Until last night, had 0 marquee A10 wins, looked pedestrian compared to what they were hyped up in the non conference. And only have one win against a team that will likely be in the NCAA. Yet they are a certifiable lock because these nerds gesture at these numbers. Its obvious the national pundits don't watch A10 hoops. Im not saying they aren't deserving or even a bad team, but to suggest they're class above the A10 when the results show differently is absurd.
10 years ago this team is likely on the good side of the bubble with a resume like this. Now can't even get in the bubble discussion.
I’m not sure I agree. Wouldn’t surprise me if each team is assigned an initial score before a game is even played. It’s the way the P6 always gets assigned low scores and when they play each other as the season progresses their NET always will end up better.
Of course the actual math isn't subjective, but the subjectivity is built into the formula. In order to create it, people had to decide what was important and what wasn't. The thing about math is that it takes humans to actually do it and humans are, by nature, subjective. That's why the NET should only be one source of information about what makes a team tourney-worthy. I am not overly optimistic that the committee will include us if we don't win the A-10 tournament, but they might, especially since it seems there is a lot of recognition that something isn't quite right with the NET.
They should be saying "Here's why the NET can't and shouldn't be the only factor -- because this team is good." That's my point. If the NET is the only factor, then just take the highest rated 30 teams or whatever who don't get an at-large bid. But we all know that's not actually how they do it, which brand that NET IS not the only factor. So they need to stop saying "Well, their NET is 69, so they're toast."
Let's be honest. Back in December when the record was 5-5, I think most if not all of us here knew Richmond would need to win the A10 tournament.
Time to close this thread.
Time to close this thread.
Nova and Miss St both lost. Great results for the bubble in the what if game. I’m torturing myself.
Committee loves to have a non P6 as first team out to prop themselves up. Happened to us about 8-9 years ago out of nowhere, could see them doing it again.
TCU was like 2-10 vs Quad 1, they have proven repeatedly that they can't beat good teams, they should be nowhere near the tournament.
Right the loss probably moved us up to just on the wrong side of the bubble. Someone will leak to Lunardi that we were in until the bad loss at GMU.
Already seen a report Maryland would not accept a NIT bid. Too many expected to miss from portaling. who knows but I mentioned b4 I'd be surprised if no NIT opt outs. Now MD stinks, but they are 9th in NET in B10. If b10 gets 7 ncaa bids they would be in line. If they get less than 7, MD would not get invited. But auto bid if things break a certain way in B10 with bids.
Based on b10 performance in last few NCAAs they should get no more than 5 imo. BS to help their bubble teams out again. That was another thing in our favor if we had beaten the Goo Moos. The committee was less likely to reward the B10 this year. They still might, but less likely than normal. No bid stealers out there so far, bubble keeps getting weaker. Look at some of those last in/first out teams. We'd have stacked up fine minus the NET number.
Based on b10 performance in last few NCAAs they should get no more than 5 imo. BS to help their bubble teams out again. That was another thing in our favor if we had beaten the Goo Moos. The committee was less likely to reward the B10 this year. They still might, but less likely than normal. No bid stealers out there so far, bubble keeps getting weaker. Look at some of those last in/first out teams. We'd have stacked up fine minus the NET number.
That is a big question mark for the NIT I bet. Could see teams accepting NIT bids, and then players dropping into the portal. Could be a lot of last minute changes in the NIT I bet.
Again, at this point zero interest in considering the NIT option. Hopefully a moot point.
Again, at this point zero interest in considering the NIT option. Hopefully a moot point.
Good point. I wonder if the NIT is going to suffer the same fate of most of the bowl games now, with multitude of players opting out to get their names in the portal quicker.
Yes and that's why we have those new NIT rules. I've been saying since announced, it's not to increase p6 teams, it's to save the p6 teams and incentivize from opting out & get the p6 to advance.
Nothing says irrelevant more than a team with a losing overall record and having lost 8 of its past 10 being in the running for an NIT auto bid/host, and the cherry on top is them saying "nah".
I know fewer eyes will be on the NIT if it’s mid-majors, but I’m way more likely as a viewer to tune in to see high quality mid-majors than a bunch of mediocre to bad power conference teams
does entering the portal mean you can't play for your current team any more? or that a coach wouldn't play that kid? not sure how coaches handle that.
Didn't seem to matter to our baseball team last year, when we had a couple guys who had already committed to other schools but played the whole season for us.
Again, I've given up on trying to understand portal rules. It's not supposed to open until 7 days after Selection Sunday. There are exceptions for coaching changes and the window doesn't apply to grad transfers, but I'm seeing tweets about guys in the portal for whom those don't apply.
Anyway, there's no policy reason why you couldn't play if you're in the portal. You're still on your current team and not even required to transfer. But if would be up to the coach how they feel about that.
Anyway, there's no policy reason why you couldn't play if you're in the portal. You're still on your current team and not even required to transfer. But if would be up to the coach how they feel about that.
Oklahoma w loss today goes to 8-11 overall in b12. They are 4-12 in quad 1s. That's worse than Mooney's winning percentage vs. VCU.
Yet b4 today doofus Lunardi and Palm for that matter had as 9 seeds. honestly they should be out. They'll get in I'm sure b/c the standard for power teams is weak. But had we beaten the Goo Moos those are the type of teams we could have been competing against.
Yet b4 today doofus Lunardi and Palm for that matter had as 9 seeds. honestly they should be out. They'll get in I'm sure b/c the standard for power teams is weak. But had we beaten the Goo Moos those are the type of teams we could have been competing against.
Goo moo blowout was a disaster. It validated all who said UR werent deserving. Win that one and make finals and committee would have had a very tough decision.
Yep. I personally don't think we had enough focus on the bigger, most important prize. But if we take care of business next 3 days we won't have any regret.
It’s okay, they’ve got their excuses lined up, so they’re all good.
BC playing really well. They will give Hoos all they want. Post stays out of foul trouble, watch out.
I look forward to seeing Nova beat Marquette (sans Kolek) today, salting their spot in the tourney... one day after basically pooping the bed against DEPAWFUL and proving that they have no business being anywhere near the tournament.
I don't know what the committee will or won't do, but if we are going to be kept out of the tournament because we lost one road game as part of a 15-3 regular season in the eighth-ranked league in the nation, that's on the committee and not us.
I think this is where our $100 Grand balloon payment to Lunardi really needs to come in play. He is texting PQ now trying to up the ante, while chatting with GK and MCspider on the street corner. It's legal to buy players now, maybe we can buy a bid?
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