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Transfers-Plenty of Ivy

Let’s compare this to Mr Coleman. It had to hurt to not get the starting nod but he worked on his craft and when his number was called, he rose to the occasion. That’s tremendous leadership and great lessons for anyone. Life doesn’t always break your way but if you respond in the right ways it really improves your odds for long-term success.
 
The days of Ivy graduate transfers to UR are finished per Patriot League mandates.
Several Patriot schools have graduate players. I believe that mandate may change. We certainly would not lose those players we have who will be playing as graduate students next season, right?
 
My understanding is that we can have graduate players within our own school and also any transfers that come in as underclassman and continue in Grad school🏈🕷️🕸️
 
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My understanding is that we can have graduate players within our own school and also any transfers that come in as underclassman and continue in Grad school🏈🕷️🕸️
Ah gotcha. I was hoping there would be a change in the policy for bringing in graduate transfers from other schools.
 
I've been told it may be as early as this coming season.
We’ve been shut down from recruiting graduate transfers-

Per an assistant coach

“…
Thanks xxxx,unfortunately there is a rule in the patriot league where we are no longer allowed to take any graduate transfer.

Frustrating rule, so we won’t be able to take any IVY league grad transfers anymore…”
 
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Could be possible that we aren’t allowed to do it for the 2025 football season but changes could happen for 2026 season. If PL is motivated to elevating its conference reputation in FCS then revising the graduate transfer policy to allow it has to be done.
 
Could be possible that we aren’t allowed to do it for the 2025 football season but changes could happen for 2026 season. If PL is motivated to elevating its conference reputation in FCS then revising the graduate transfer policy to allow it has to be done.
It’s possible but highly unlikely that it will snow in Miami in August of 2025 as well.
 
Many of the Patriot League schools don't have grad programs of any note, so they'd seemingly be shooting themselves in the foot if they vote to approve grad transfers.

- Bucknell: Handful of programs including English M.A. with the rest being science degrees (mostly engineering). Cuts out a lot of possible athletes. They have a total of 46 graduate students.

- Colgate: Small program offering M.A. in Teaching. Individualized M.A. programs in English, geology, philosophy, psychology, or religion "can occasionally be arranged." They have a total of 15 graduate students.

- Fordham: Dozens of graduate programs across a range of disciplines. They have 5,800 graduate students.

- Georgetown: Dozens of graduate programs across a range of disciplines. They have 12,400 graduate students, more than their 8,000 undergrads.

- Holy Cross: No graduate programs.

- Lafayette: No graduate programs.

- Lehigh: Many graduate programs at certificate, master's, and PhD level, but mostly in science/engineering. They do have MBA and education programs. They have 1,779 graduate students.
 
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Many of the Patriot League schools don't have grad programs of any note, so they'd seemingly be shooting themselves in the foot if they vote to approve grad transfers.

- Bucknell: Handful of programs including English M.A. with the rest being science degrees (mostly engineering). Cuts out a lot of possible athletes. They have a total of 46 graduate students.

- Colgate: Small program offering M.A. in Teaching. Individualized M.A. programs in English, geology, philosophy, psychology, or religion "can occaiosnally be arranged." They have a total of 15 graduate students.

- Fordham: Dozens of graduate programs across a range of disciplines. They have 5,800 graduate students.

- Georgetown: Dozens of graduate programs across a range of disciplines. They have 12,400 graduate students, more than their 8,000 undergrads.

- Holy Cross: No graduate programs.

- Lafayette: No graduate programs.

- Lehigh: Many graduate programs at certificate, master's, and PhD level, but mostly in science/engineering. They do have MBA and education programs. They have 1,779 graduate students.
Where does Richmond stand on this list? I don't think we have significant grad offerings either.
 
We have 722 grad students, mostly law/MBA, but we have several less-demanding master's programs that are popular with athletes...human resource management and liberal arts seem to be the most popular.
 
We have 722 grad students, mostly law/MBA, but we have several less-demanding master's programs that are popular with athletes...human resource management and liberal arts seem to be the most popular.
thats what I thought. Here is link to offerings. BTW about 400 of those would be law.


When I was here many of my upper level honors courses doubled as Master's classes. Just about every department had a Master's offering. Do you know when that changed?
 
When I was here many of my upper level honors courses doubled as Master's classes. Just about every department had a Master's offering. Do you know when that changed?
During my time in the late ‘90s they still had a few tiny master’s programs in departments like psychology and biology (but not every department…chemistry and physics didn’t have them), but I think they axed them pretty soon after that.
 
Gilly is one of many that went the human resource management route. Designed for professionals, so it offers small, evening classes. 10 courses are required for the degree with no thesis or other requirements.

I have no idea how many of these athletes actually complete the degree. 30 hours is a full-time load to do it in one year.
 
I've been told it may be as early as this coming season.
Talked to my source again tonight, less confident there will be a change. We will continue to push for it, SF list of programs below is the headwind we face.
 
Talked to my source again tonight, less confident there will be a change. We will continue to push for it, SF list of programs below is the headwind we face.
Should have been negotiated with PL Commish before we had decided to jump from the CAA ship.
We are only an associate member for football only which makes the institution of graduate transfers even that more problematic.
Why did we only get 3 PL home games next season?
Our chief negotiator was a pussy.Appears we were desperate to leave the CAA which also cost us a dozen starters from an 8-0 CAA team.
 
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Should have been negotiated with PL Commish before we had decided to jump from the CAA ship.
We are only an associate member for football only which makes the institution of graduate transfers even that more problematic.
Why did we only get 3 PL home games next season?
Our chief negotiator was a pussy.
The entire change was handled as badly as it could have been. “I have an idea, let’s change conferences which will get little to no support by the athletic supporters and to top it off we won’t be able to infuse Ivy League
Athletes into our schools.”
And Hallock wants to improve our educational standards.
Where did we get these rocket scientists?
 
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Should have been negotiated with PL Commish before we had decided to jump from the CAA ship.
We are only an associate member for football only which makes the institution of graduate transfers even that more problematic.
Why did we only get 3 PL home games next season?
Our chief negotiator was a pussy.Appears we were desperate to leave the CAA which also cost us a dozen starters from an 8-0 CAA team.

“Richmond was obviously comfortable with our approach”

U r right re: our chief negotiator. I brought this up earlier but that interview with Pat League commish to me told us all we needed to know.

We r doing it the Pat League way. & their approach is different than what we’re used to. The Academic Index thing will cause more no admits too. sources.
 
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The entire change was handled as badly as it could have been. “I have an idea, let’s change conferences which will get little to no support by the athletic supporters and to top it off we won’t be able to infuse Ivy League Athletes into our schools.”
And Hallock wants to improve our educational standards.
Where did we get these rocket scientists?
Once again, the Administration has all but wrecked the football program. We have lost our top 12 players
 
I admittedly have zero inside knowledge, but I question how much the Patriot League move is a factor for the guys leaving. The guys were already in the program and working toward a UR degree. How much does it matter to them that they would be playing Lehigh and Colgate instead of Bryant and Campbell? UD is gone. We're still playing W&M.

Go win the Patriot and you'll be in the playoffs (granted, Lehigh showed us that's not a cakewalk). CAA is on a downward slide, losing its top programs over the years while showing in the playoffs that things have been watered down too much and the quality just isn't there anymore. CAA isn't going to get the benefit of the doubt much longer...teams with strong CAA records who haven't even had to play each other won't automatically get the respect they've seen.

For me, it would have much more to do with my satisfaction level with the coaches and overall program vibe, and just based on the rumblings here, that seems to be an issue. Coleman was obviously unhappy with not getting the starting nod at the outset. Hoped the strong season once he took over might satisfy him, but at same time it likely also gave him confidence that he could move to a higher level.
 
Remind me: why can't guys just continue to take undergrad courses for a fifth year in conferences that permit grad transfers? Does it literally have to be a graduate school program? Could you just delay graduation another year and take some random courses?
 
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