Transfer season
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Considering Mooney was publicly speaking about having Grant back in Feb. earlier in the year, I would think he is fully back to basketball activities. If not, Mooney was really jumping the gun and should have discussed with the family and doctors before making comments. If he is not back yet, that would seem to indicate a set back. Obviously all parties want to be as cautious as possible, but based on earlier comments it would seem he should be cleared unless tests or observations showed additional info.
Talk about tunnel vision.......these comments about the coaching staff are so tiresome. The team and coaching staff had a great year considering the hand they were dealt. Why some of us can't accept that and be hopeful for the future I cannot understand.
Can't practice with the team and get a medical redshirt from the NCAA at the same time.
I've occasionally wondered about this...it's not explicitly mentioned in the NCAA manual. The injury or illness has to be incapacitating to the extent that it prevents the athlete from competing.
But practice isn't competing, so couldn't you make a case that the kid could participate in practice but isn't able to compete, particularly if you put some limits on what they're allowed to do in practice? (Like in Grant's case, limit cardio exertion or something.)
Certainly the NCAA is supposed to consider the entire body of evidence in making a decision, and so participation in practice might weigh in their minds as a factor against them granting it, but I don't know where the line is drawn on practice participation.
Rehabilitation activities are obviously allowed. Team meetings would be okay. Weight training beyond rehabilitation? Individual workouts?
Admittedly, i don't know the rules nor do i have any detailed information about Grant's personal health. I just know that if a player had a clean bill of health and was dominating practice, it can add to the degree of difficulty in petitioning to the NCAA for medical red shirt.
OK, I'm going to go all Ulla on you.
If Grant is playing 15 minutes because someone not on the team who is shooting like Peyton Aldridge & rebounding like Hassan Martin is getting the other 25 minutes it might not be as much trouble...
Can you clarify if this is in a game where we are a A10 or a Big East member, though?
Exactly what hand were they dealt, we had one injury right? What else wasn't anticipated? Not trying to debate the point but I really don't recall, other than Grant's situation what it was?
We had a very capable transfer get 86'ed by admissions late and a very promising big man go down with a scary injury. You don't think our season is a little different with those 2 guys? Even if we just have Grant I think it changes some things. He is very good, very skilled, and would have provided some size that we lacked. It was pointed out earlier that maybe those circumstances accelerated the development of Nick and Buck which may be a good thing but our team looks different with those 2 guys - 2 guys that Mooney thought he was going to have.
With Bernard being denied, Solly not being granted eligibility, and Grant getting hurt Mooney lost what likely would have been options 2, 3 and 4 in the front court depth chart. With those 3 additional players in our depleted front court we likely would have won more games, and probably would have made the NCAAs. Money did well having only 1 A10 caliber front court player for most of the season.
Grant seems to be a great kid and I know TJ thinks a lot of him. I am sure Mooney, UR, Grant and his parents took the safest route that his cardiologist recommended. I am fine with that. Looking forward to the next 4 years.
Mark Donnal, a big man from Michigan, will be a grad transfer. He can rebound and hit some threes. Good for for a system like ours, since Beilein's is similar.
Come on guys, counting players you didn't get? He knew the players he had on hand, he knew he didn't (at least in his mind - it appears PF is not considered) have any front court depth except for a freshman, and frankly only one injury is somewhat fortunate. Plus doesn't Bernard play small forward/guard, we've got plenty of those
Malcolm at 6'6" would have been a forward and likely would have made a huge difference for us.
Well, you could always make the argument that Buck and Sherod made great strides this year because they were forced into major minutes. We will benefit from that starting next year. Of course we had basically no bench production at the end of this season. It would have been a nice luxury to have been able to start Bernard and then bring a fresh Buckingham or Sherod off the bench. Buck wouldn't have won ROY without those minutes but we would have been a better, deeper team. I've been (and still am) tough on Mooney and his style of play but the Bernard situation sits clearly on our administration's shoulders. Mooney went out and found a grad transfer that could help us and wanted to be here and our administration turned him down because he fell (apparently) a minuscule amount under their arbitrarily required GPA.
Bernard played the 4 at Xavier, he would have played the 4 here too. Mooney actually got the commit, he did everything in his power to get Bernard here, he deserves credit for that. Same with Solly. It is no fault of his that the NCAA did not grant Solly eligibility, or that our admissions denied Bernard, or that Grant had heart problems. Those are the cards he was dealt.
Nope. We did not know when he would be eligible.
"Stansbury, 21, played high school basketball in Toms River, N.J., before moving overseas. An NCAA review will be required to determine whether Stansbury will be eligible in 2016-17 or the next season. He is projected to have two NCAA seasons."
http://www.richmond.com/sports/spid...cle_ce06e2db-be10-5916-8b55-86cd868633fb.html
Ahmed Hamdy gets his release from VCU, may transfer somewhere to play as a grad transfer. Would be a good get for us, nice big body down low....
While nauseating, this is funny.Ahmed Hamdy gets his release from VCU, may transfer somewhere to play as a grad transfer. Would be a good get for us, nice big body down low....
We were hopeful, but didn't necessarily expect him to be ruled immediately eligible.
Not with any certainty, but I believe it is very rare for Foreign Pros to be immediately eligible. I am ok with that, and I think the staff was as well.
Surprising on two fronts, he was rumored to like Rhoads better than Wade and he seemed more likely to leave for Europe than Grad Transfer.Ahmed Hamdy gets his release from VCU, may transfer somewhere to play as a grad transfer. Would be a good get for us, nice big body down low....
However it is fine if Rhoades vs Wade has aborted the consistency of their roster...
Thanks SF. I am pretty sure we were under no illusions that Solly would be eligible this year. We threw a Hail Mary pass to the NCAA but that is exactly all what that was.
As for injuries, they happen to every team. I think the only player to miss any game time this year was Golden, that to me is a remarkably low injury year. This is why you have a deep bench because injuries happen at anytime, they are not an excuse, unless possibly you lose multiple key players to season ending injuries. We lost our back-up center.
Bernard, yes, Mooney got screwed the big one on him. Mooney rightfully deserves an asterick on his resume for Bernard.
But the sunshine daydreamers can spare us the
since the mid 80s, please tell me which Richmond coach/team had a serviceable 3rd string center? Tarrant? Beilein?
And that was the biggest blessing of the whole year.
This may be an ignorant question.. but I will go ahead and ask it and see.. if this board feels like I believe it may... .
VCU just announced that Hamdy, their center, has asked for his release, and he will be eligible immediately as a graduate transfer, much like ANO was when he left us for Pitt.
In my view, if his academics are in order, Mr. Hamdy might be a perfect piece to add to our puzzle for next season. He averaged 6 points and 4 rebounds or thereabouts, and he gave us fits in our two losses to our cross-town rival.
There may not be a "fit" for us, but if he is an "outlier" student, for VCU, in a good way, I would vote for our staff making immediate contact with him to ascertain his level of interest. He would be a huge upgrade over Kwesi this past season, and also a likely upgrade to the remainder of our front-line bench (no offense intended).
Although the idea of a VCU transfer may be distasteful to many on this board, I see it as worth checking out. What do we have to lose? If both GG and Solly are fully healthy and in "BEAST" mode we may not need another front-line reserve. However, if they are not "sure-things," then Mr. Hamdy might just be able to help UR get to the "promised land," since we will not need 18 points from the center position next season. We will, however, likely need 6-8 points, 5+ rebounds and some defense. Your thoughts?
VCU just announced that Hamdy, their center, has asked for his release, and he will be eligible immediately as a graduate transfer, much like ANO was when he left us for Pitt.
In my view, if his academics are in order, Mr. Hamdy might be a perfect piece to add to our puzzle for next season. He averaged 6 points and 4 rebounds or thereabouts, and he gave us fits in our two losses to our cross-town rival.
There may not be a "fit" for us, but if he is an "outlier" student, for VCU, in a good way, I would vote for our staff making immediate contact with him to ascertain his level of interest. He would be a huge upgrade over Kwesi this past season, and also a likely upgrade to the remainder of our front-line bench (no offense intended).
Although the idea of a VCU transfer may be distasteful to many on this board, I see it as worth checking out. What do we have to lose? If both GG and Solly are fully healthy and in "BEAST" mode we may not need another front-line reserve. However, if they are not "sure-things," then Mr. Hamdy might just be able to help UR get to the "promised land," since we will not need 18 points from the center position next season. We will, however, likely need 6-8 points, 5+ rebounds and some defense. Your thoughts?
Even if we didn't have A10 sit out rules, potential academic disconnects, and questions about how well he suits our system, I don't see why he would want to travel six miles down the road to play for a team that his current team has been soundly beating during his tenure at vcu.
I would embrace the selection of Hamdy to join the Spiders to complete his collegiate career. I think that he is an excellent player, would contribute immediately and substantially, far more than the Princeton grad we are considering, and I have never bought into this unbridled hatred "thing" some of our posters seem to have against VCU beyond the expected healthy competitive desire to own them in sporting competitions inasmuch as they are our inner-city, cross-town rival.
Grad transfers in some leagues can transfer within league and play immediately. I am not sure what the A-10's policy on this is, but the general consensus seems to be that once you've graduated, you are treated differently than if you've been granted a release by the team you were with.
That said, Hamdy is not coming to UR.
That said, Hamdy is not coming to UR.
Have you considered how hazardous your proposal would be to Ulla's health?
Do players who are getting playing time at their current school want to transfer because they want to go to a power conference to get more exposure, and a chance at NCAA tournament play or do they simply want more playing time?
Some i assume just want a graduate degree paid for.
Some i assume just want a graduate degree paid for.
Some i assume just want a graduate degree paid for.
you're joking, right?
the only person that is getting a grad degree is a GT, like Patrick Steeves that has two years of eligibility. The rest of them go to class for the first semester and barely show up for anything in the 2nd...
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