Status of our program
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Don't know what you do for a living but I'm really glad you're not a UR administrator.
I would probably fire Mooney and give Rob Jobes a 20-year contract to become head coach. $1.5M a year should get it done.
I actually can't tell if the original post is a joke or not.
The Enquirer in Cincinnati reported in February that documents and records from University of Cincinnati showed university president Santa Ono has been leading an extensive effort to promote the school to Big 12 leadership. The Commercial Appeal reported Tuesday that University of Memphis President M. David Rudd has made a similar push.
Anybody heard of our prez or admin doing this re Big East? Ulla1?
Just kidding
Anybody heard of our prez or admin doing this re Big East? Ulla1?
Just kidding
in today's athletic world, you are either power 5 or you are pretty much road kill. sure there are exceptions but few and far between. that is why the pukes keep thinking acc
In all honesty, 64, our former President told me that he was all for moving to the Big East. In fact, he thought it was going to happen. This was at the time expansion was occurring. Have not had that discussion with the new President. Although I have mentioned it to the AD in e-mails. OSCThe Enquirer in Cincinnati reported in February that documents and records from University of Cincinnati showed university president Santa Ono has been leading an extensive effort to promote the school to Big 12 leadership. The Commercial Appeal reported Tuesday that University of Memphis President M. David Rudd has made a similar push.
Anybody heard of our prez or admin doing this re Big East? Ulla1?
Just kidding
Can we just go ahead and pin the "Rose Colored Kool-Aid" thread right under the Recruiting Tracker so that Ulla and TBSpyder can go ahead and massage each other through flowery postings and they don't have to keep floating fluff like this on the main basketball board? Thanks I appreciate it.
TB, if you are ever charged with a crime, your suggestion to extend CM will be a solid foundation for an insanity defense.
Actually one whould have to examine each sport on its individual accomplishments as opposed to lumping them together and saying, "The Spiders really are doing very well in all sports".
I would disagree with you 100% on basketball. In that sport the "class act" hasn't seen an NCAA bid in 5 years... doing very well???? I guess we just define things differently.
Will agree with you on "Roll Spide".
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The Enquirer in Cincinnati reported in February that documents and records from University of Cincinnati showed university president Santa Ono has been leading an extensive effort to promote the school to Big 12 leadership. The Commercial Appeal reported Tuesday that University of Memphis President M. David Rudd has made a similar push.
Anybody heard of our prez or admin doing this re Big East? Ulla1?
Just kidding
Santa Ono is, in my opinion, the best president of a university in the US. No joke - the man is amazing.
"CINCINNATI -
University of Cincinnati president Santa Ono has once again turned down his yearly bonus.
Instead, Ono is asking the money be given to charity.
Ono’s $200,000 bonus will be divided among 14 scholarships and charities, including $10,000 and $5,000 UC scholarships.
Additionally, $10,000 will be given to the family of fallen CPD officer Sonny Kim.
This is the third time Ono has refused a bonus and he has also rejected a raise."
Not sure of his base salary and fringe bennies but this is more than a classy gesture.
University of Cincinnati president Santa Ono has once again turned down his yearly bonus.
Instead, Ono is asking the money be given to charity.
Ono’s $200,000 bonus will be divided among 14 scholarships and charities, including $10,000 and $5,000 UC scholarships.
Additionally, $10,000 will be given to the family of fallen CPD officer Sonny Kim.
This is the third time Ono has refused a bonus and he has also rejected a raise."
Not sure of his base salary and fringe bennies but this is more than a classy gesture.
Sounds strange to me. If he wants to give to charities, why not just do so? Seems to me that announcing one's largess in a public forum may serve a purpose beyond altruism.
i, was waiting to complete all the posts to say the same thing you just did. if one wishes to do it, just do it but don't have to put up a billboard. guess we are all wired in a unique way and have to respect that but agree with you 100%.
Most D1 programs would love to be at our level. As for 5 empty years, I really think that is unfair to UR. I don't see the NCAA tourney as some gold standard. Many of the schools participating are lower level programs who won their conference tourney and became AQ. Two years ago, we were a top seeded NIT team. In my view, that was not an empty year, and was a successful season.
he could want the public display to encourage others to give. Easier to ask for and receive a gift if you have invested in the same product
Sorry but being in the NIT is about equal to getting a participation trophy. My expectations are to run a clean program, put good kids on the floor and go to the NCAA. I would hope that would be the administration's and the coaches' expectations are as well. I understand these are high expectations but if you don't demand excellence then you will never achieve it. I am realistic in the fact we will not meet expectations every year but what we have had the last five years is simply unacceptable.
The NIT was supposed to be a treat of what was to come this season. I'm fine with going to the NIT occasionally, but with what we have spent on this program it's ridiculous how bad we are.
We are paying someone $1.1 million to be mediocre at their job..... demand better.
We are paying someone $1.1 million to be mediocre at their job..... demand better.
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Does anyone realize the razor thin margin between being top seed at NIT and participating in NCAA? Our record is not mediocre. Although, I admit we were last year. I expected a very successful season, but the team just died at the end of the season. Whose fault? I blame the players, many here will blame the coaches, who don't get to play.
Fine, fire CM, I can almost guarantee, that the next coach, will not be as good.
Fine, fire CM, I can almost guarantee, that the next coach, will not be as good.
And that explains one year. What about the rest since the last time we made the ncaa?
Almost guarantee new coach won't be better. Almost is a rather large qualifier so I almost guarantee the new coach will be better. One way to find out in the future.
On Ono turning down the bonus - - there is a very strong tax motivation NOT to take the money and then just donate it himself. That would almost certainly cost him some cash due to things like phase-outs of itemized deductions, limitations on charitable deductions and the alternative minimum tax. To avoid actually paying for his generosity he needs to decline. And Cincinnati almost certainly needs to disclose that they in fact made the contributions etc and I am sure then feel compelled to say where the cash came from because its not in its budget as such.
In the end, I suspect the public nature of what he did isn't nearly as self-serving as some have made it out to be. Its a bit brutal that some here want to denigrate or minimize what he did and criticize him for how he did it. As also noted, maybe he announces it publicly to lead others to do the same or similar things in hopes that its a movement that spreads and the world ends up just a little better place. It takes a perverse gift to take a great gesture like this and offer up criticism!
In the end, I suspect the public nature of what he did isn't nearly as self-serving as some have made it out to be. Its a bit brutal that some here want to denigrate or minimize what he did and criticize him for how he did it. As also noted, maybe he announces it publicly to lead others to do the same or similar things in hopes that its a movement that spreads and the world ends up just a little better place. It takes a perverse gift to take a great gesture like this and offer up criticism!
yup. and more money makes it into the hands of the charity this way than if he took the bonus, was taxed at the highest rate, and then donated. he gave an incredible gift, and a high percentage of his earnings. very nice.
on the other hand, in no way does this tell me if he's a great president or not which I believe was the original premise. totally separate.
Why is it that some posters on this board cannot respond to a post with which they have a difference of opinion without a mean-spirited reply?
The level of those questioning the motive of Ono in this thread is neither brutal nor denigrating. Those posts are, rather, just reasonable differences of opinion which question an unexamined possible motive and/or express a non-mainstream opinion. "Perverse gift?" Give me a break.
A more civil response from you would have made me think twice about what you said (as was the effect of the post of URFan1), but your pusillanimous reaction did little more than to rile me. If you are more concerned with angering those who do not agree with you, you probably have accomplished your goal. However, should you have desired to post an opinion which would be considered by those with whom you disagree, and possibly lead to a change of their opinion (and make a "better world"), you used the wrong approach. At least, with respect to me.
A new coach may take a year or two to rebuild from the Mooney style players into a winning formula, but the long term reward will be much better. I dont think you can use VCU as a comparison, because they didn't have to rebuild with Willie Wonka, all he had to do was not crash the bus. I would say something more like GW or the Bonnies, who were more in shambles and found good coaches who took a year or two to get back on top. That's more of a realistic goal.
Schmidt has taken the bonnies to the NCAAs once in nine years. Lonergan has taken GW to the NCAAs Once in five years. Neither has won an NCAA game. I find it hilarious that people here complain about Mooney not being able to get us to the NCAAs and then say we would be better off with Schmidt or Lonergan, who have the same or arguably worse NCAA track records.
Agreed. Clearly CM has some failings, I don't dispute that, but there's a lot of recency-bias on here.
I also don't think it's worth bitching about for the next 12 months. CM isn't going anywhere for 2016-2017, there are other more interesting topics to discuss. Like the weather, or curling, or water torture.
Hey, how about a thread about the most recent hot recruit we are not getting and why. We like to beat dead horses over here. I do come on here every day, hoping to see one of these two opens slots being filled and every day all I find is us rehashing why that spot has been filled. I'm beginning to think Fan 11 is right, that Mooney is just not filling them, just to screw with me. If so, well done, Coach.
Ok, that definitely made me laugh. Our horses have clearly all been beaten to death. I must say, I'm on here like you too and do think CM is either accidentally or intentionally giving us all conniptions. I love a good conniption.
