So, why didn't SLU know about and discuss our protocols with us beforehand? One would have thought they would have known about any protocols and they would have been fully disclosed.
SLU Game Postponed
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Biliken Covid dry spell of missing 7 straight games over a period of 35 straight days and then losing to Dayton at home this past Tuesday because of heavy and out-of-shape legs and lack of stamina and a lack of a shooting touch can take its toll.Remember LaSalle.
Best for them to try and maintain NET ranking by not playing anyone of consequence while working on a future make-up schedule with Commish which suits their convenience with the 13-A10 game minimum.If they don’t participate in the A10 tourney at UR because the minimum isn’t attained they can hope that NET and Lunardi force fit an at large for them.
Best for them to try and maintain NET ranking by not playing anyone of consequence while working on a future make-up schedule with Commish which suits their convenience with the 13-A10 game minimum.If they don’t participate in the A10 tourney at UR because the minimum isn’t attained they can hope that NET and Lunardi force fit an at large for them.
SLU is the rock star who demands 27 bags of Reese's Pieces, 113 bottles of Grey Goose, 16 plates of caviar, a bath robe, and a spread of seafood as a rider, gets them all, but then cancels the whole show because the room temperature is one degree off.
SLU appears to be headed to Bona for a makeup game on Monday. Bona hosts Mason tomorrow (Saturday) and heads to St. Joe’s on Wednesday. SLU doesn’t have any regularly scheduled games until Saturday the 6th at GW, presuming the Colonials end their pause. Not sure if SLU will also be able to squeeze in another mid-week game Wednesday or Thursday.
So what are we supposed to "alter" with our protocol so they will come back here to play in the A-10? I'm sure all of our opponents have been getting the same info and they have not objected, so what's different? I cannot imagine the A-10 did not review our protocol before agreeing to put the tourny on our campus.
If UR agreed to keep it "Confidential", then why would Hardt make an announcement? This is completely on SLU. SLU wanted to duck the game to keep from losing. Our guys have placed this clearly at the feet of Travis Ford and SLU.
This has got Richmond fingerprints all over it. I'm so sick of this "no comment" bullshit, our school is being run by a bunch of politicians. The only reason that asswipe Hardt-on isn't talking is because Richmond is in the wrong and he is responsible. Get that effing clown out of here!
In any situation where someone does something stupid, illegal, questionable, or violates protocols, the general advice from both lawyers and PR specialists is "say as little as possible and move on." And quietly correct whatever should (not) have been done. This gets it out of the news faster and will also protect one's position if there is any threat of legal action.
I'm as annoyed and curious as anyone. And want to blame SLU rather than UR. But as much as I don't like the "no comment" by both sides, it IS the cautious approach. Especially because they are a conference member so both sides do have to preserve the long-term relationship.
I'm as annoyed and curious as anyone. And want to blame SLU rather than UR. But as much as I don't like the "no comment" by both sides, it IS the cautious approach. Especially because they are a conference member so both sides do have to preserve the long-term relationship.
SLU doesn’t smell like roses but the accusation is on us about lax or incorrect protocols. I don’t think anyone is disputing that. It’s been reported multiple times & SLU AD says as much.
and in the court of public opinion the onus is now on us. Yet our pretentious AD does a confidential agreement. Why?
Our bball coach was not truthful imo when he says he doesn’t know what spooked SLU. Simply makes no sense. U may not understand but u know what they claimed.
I care how we operate not SLU. We have violated protocols in past. Pair that w the above & there is a lot to answer for. Will we get them? No.
and in the court of public opinion the onus is now on us. Yet our pretentious AD does a confidential agreement. Why?
Our bball coach was not truthful imo when he says he doesn’t know what spooked SLU. Simply makes no sense. U may not understand but u know what they claimed.
I care how we operate not SLU. We have violated protocols in past. Pair that w the above & there is a lot to answer for. Will we get them? No.
They were here and they backed out. This was an excuse by SLU. They forfeited the game. Will they refuse to play in the A10, now they it is being held at the Robins Center?
Or that he has been asked not to talk by A10. StL had little to gain but a lot to lose if they played us and loss. Admittedly we would love a chance at a win over a top 25 team. I think this is most likely on StL. We’ll probably never know but we should
Right, but you can't just have a team decide not play because they think they may lose.
This was a power play by St. Louis. They forfeited the game. They have replaced this game with a game from Fordham. Instead of saying we dont understand, our standard answer should be "ask St. Louis".
this was posted on A10 message board:
Apparently all Billikens were able to play the game with the exception of Markhi Strickland who had earlier traveled to Florida to attend the funeral of a family member, and then returned to St. Louis. This was a medical decision, not a decision of the athletic department. It was apparently made due to inconclusive test results using the Richmond protocol. As a Billiken fan I’m extremely disappointed that they could not play. The health of our student athletes is paramount though.
Apparently all Billikens were able to play the game with the exception of Markhi Strickland who had earlier traveled to Florida to attend the funeral of a family member, and then returned to St. Louis. This was a medical decision, not a decision of the athletic department. It was apparently made due to inconclusive test results using the Richmond protocol. As a Billiken fan I’m extremely disappointed that they could not play. The health of our student athletes is paramount though.
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/col...cle_c4c729da-6796-57c0-8c32-0faa738d56c0.html
You are not authorized to know the truth. You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! Quote from the article:
St. Louis University’s initial concern about COVID-19 protocols in the Richmond basketball program came to light Thursday night after the team arrived at its hotel.
What transpired in the next 15 hours led the postponement of SLU’s game scheduled for Friday night in Richmond, Virginia, in a decision made by the basketball program’s medical team in St. Louis.
Athletics director Chris May said both programs agreed not to reveal details of the issue that SLU found troubling.
You are not authorized to know the truth. You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! Quote from the article:
St. Louis University’s initial concern about COVID-19 protocols in the Richmond basketball program came to light Thursday night after the team arrived at its hotel.
What transpired in the next 15 hours led the postponement of SLU’s game scheduled for Friday night in Richmond, Virginia, in a decision made by the basketball program’s medical team in St. Louis.
Athletics director Chris May said both programs agreed not to reveal details of the issue that SLU found troubling.
why in world would that be our standard answer. Saying forfeit is just crying. Nobody is giving them a forfeit. I don’t agree w them not playing but Richmond answers to our constituency. To enter into a confidentiality agreement is bs by our AD & theirs. Flat out. But again we should care about our side. This isn’t hipaa over a student athlete this is about what protocol was not satisfied. I don’t think that is an unreasonable ask of our AD.
mr burner account - to answer that we first need to have honesty transparency & accountability by folks in charge at Richmond.
Well, we have fans who insist that this play:
was a deliberate attempt to injure Blake on a dead ball.
So, every fan base has some.
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In the absence of facts, lets create rumor...
one of the STL players came into the Westin lobby and saw two beautiful ladies sitting and minding their own business. The STL player is masked as are the two ladies. The STL player proceeds to hit on the two ganders with a game that can only be described as "lacking hustle, and imagination, while being overly dependent upon false bravado." The ladies are unimpressed.
Next, in walks Andre the Goose Gustavson, international man of mystery. Both of the ladies look relieved. Shortly thereafter the Goose leaves with the 2 ganders. One under each arm. The STL player is embarrassed and humiliated. Now while the Goose and his 2 lovely birds were all masked, the STL player raises an objection to STL Medical staff about a broken heart.
This gives Travis Ford all he needs to not play the game. For one, STL would have lost their ranking, their at large, and their pride. Secondly, seeing how badly his star post player stood up next to the Goose, he realized answers for STL prayers would not be found in Richmond.
That's how I suspect it went down....
one of the STL players came into the Westin lobby and saw two beautiful ladies sitting and minding their own business. The STL player is masked as are the two ladies. The STL player proceeds to hit on the two ganders with a game that can only be described as "lacking hustle, and imagination, while being overly dependent upon false bravado." The ladies are unimpressed.
Next, in walks Andre the Goose Gustavson, international man of mystery. Both of the ladies look relieved. Shortly thereafter the Goose leaves with the 2 ganders. One under each arm. The STL player is embarrassed and humiliated. Now while the Goose and his 2 lovely birds were all masked, the STL player raises an objection to STL Medical staff about a broken heart.
This gives Travis Ford all he needs to not play the game. For one, STL would have lost their ranking, their at large, and their pride. Secondly, seeing how badly his star post player stood up next to the Goose, he realized answers for STL prayers would not be found in Richmond.
That's how I suspect it went down....
By implication it’s obvious to all of us now that both the State of Missouri and the St Louis University have far superior Covid protocol hurdles to attain than both the State of Virginia and UR.
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So even if SLU made up an excuse not to play, they would still only be 0-2 with a loss in the conference with plenty of time to make up the difference.
I am not buying the crap that they just didn't play because they might lose another game only to turn around and play the Bonnies.
I am not buying the crap that they just didn't play because they might lose another game only to turn around and play the Bonnies.
If they replace us w Bonnies that’s a harder game. All everyone talks on here is what a tough matchup SLU is for us. They had got a game in from their long break already. They flew here. The game was on ESPN. Their players had to be itching to play who wouldn’t. It’s really hard to buy they were afraid to play us.
Actually, the opposite. St. Louis needs games. Losing a Quad 1 game hurts them less than not playing games.
We're the team that can't afford another loss.
Agree. This virus and the paranoid reaction to it from frightened politicians who are afraid of ridicule from the ever powerful news media has screwed society for the foreseeable future.
I agree with this. Most of their program recently had covid, which means they are immune from getting it again. I think they were afraid of getting a Spider ass kicking and dropping in the polls like a rock.
I heard someone close to the UR program (tier 4 contact, whatever that means) tested positive a couple days ago. Wasn’t enough for “protocol” to cancel the game, but SLU bitched and whined and the conference sided with them and let it be postponed.
But they can pick up games against less formidable opponents, right
Plus our chances of getting in is slim, their chances of staying in pretty good but a loss to us would certainly reduce their chance and most likley take them out or the Top 25: right?
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by allowing SLU medical team to make decision vs. living by the protocols that THE ENTIRE A10 APPROVED (including SLU), Bernadette has shown her weakness as a leader. End of story. She has allowed what should be black and white (you either meet the protocols or you don't) to get "gray" in it. Star player turns in ankle in practice? You now have an out.
Why this type of information couldn’t be released before is beyond me. The real question is whether this second guessing is going to become a greater issue. Why doesn’t the A10 have well defined rules instead of having apparently a protocol that is open to interpretation?
We already all know that there are many opinions on this situation that we all are in based on how many topics get derailed into Covid debates. The job of the conference is to set the rules. Sounds like the real culprit is the A10.
I guess it is a good thing that the A10 cut a deal with NBC because I am sure folks at ESPN aren’t overly happy either. Of course, some of the Forum members may have enjoyed the alternate programming - some sort of betting line show.
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