So StL punishment is they get a TV game with the Bonnie’s and then 4 cupcakes....plus we have to there to play them. They should at least be forced to play 2/26 game here.
SLU Game Postponed
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Nobody is asking for test results on a person specifically. You can be transparent without that. And yes transparency is and has been a huge issue at UR. This is well known to many of us who have followed UR for a long time. Moon man is really going to tell us he doesn't know what spooked SLU? So SLU and UR meet with the A10 and Hardt is just not going to tell Mooney. lol please.
Even tho the A10 sided with SLU and we don't know exactly what went down (transparency!) I think SLU does bear a lot of responsibility however in the larger picture we are not without blame.
Noah reported UR has protocols in place that affect all off campus students at Richmond EXCEPT student athletes and speculates there may be a massive miscommunication btw UR admin and athletic dept. We're not perfect we've been on Covid pause twice. Check out JOC's tweet w Mooney talking about complying w protocols. In the accompanying game photo Mooney is violating protocols. I get it it's virtually impossible for coaches to not lift their mask and yell occasionally but u know what maybe take it easy on the we do everything right narrative then. & I'm still hazy on why our team stayed in Richmond area public hotels. I don't know all the protocols but to me that sure didn't sound like a good one.
I'm upset the game was not played. But it did reinforce we continue to have issues of leadership at UR and that perhaps we can take a hard look at ourselves and what we're not doing well since to date we seem to have refused such a review.
I wouldn't put it past that slime ball Travis Ford to realize they hadn't played in a month before their Dayton game, looked pretty bad at times against them, and realized they have a lot of things to work on. Sure does seem like they were looking for reasons to not play us.
We will just have to disagree. And, I have followed us for a long long time. Most likely a lot longer than you.
Noah is mad because they won’t let him go to games on campus. I don’t blame him, but not sure I’d take him as a source for how well protocols are being handled. As for the hotel thing, pretty sure we only had players there during our covid pause in order to isolate them and limit the spread.
I thought I saw it in JOC's article, but I guess the first to bring it up was SpiderDogg, then 4700 Pom-Poms.
So let me see if I can unscramble this mess. St Louis allowed their media people to travel to Richmond for the game. But when they arrived, they found out that lo and behold, a media person had slept with one of the St Louis team members who had previously tested positive. Since Richmond allowed the St Louis media person entry, then Richmond broke covid protocols so St Louis flew home (with media on board).
There, I fixed it fer ya.
There, I fixed it fer ya.
Hybrid student/fan/reporter gets unprecedented access not given to other media because he is also a student.
Hybrid student/fan/reporter denied access to one game in person because he is also a student.
Hybrid student/fan/reporter gets mad; becomes a columnist.
Well, it sure would have hurt them. Depending on how many more games they can play. That would be a tough tough climb to get in the top four, and is a midpack team really getting an at large?
My impression from Mooney presser was he was referring to non positive players not working out. I mean it makes sense that positive ones would be prohibited. But u may be right.
Regardless is putting a positive covid case in a public hotel being good community stewards like we love to claim? When we had a virtually empty campus available at the same time. I'm not a best practices expert on covid but to me that does not seem like 1.
I agree with you here. But I’m not sure if the covid positives were the ones in hotel rooms. Could’ve been someone’s roommate had it, covid positive guy goes to isolation on campus, covid negative roommates go to a hotel to avoid being in the “contaminated” dorm room/apartment.
St. Louis did get St. Bonaventure onto the schedule for next week after all.
First place St. Bonaventure, who beat us on our home court.
First place St. Bonaventure, who beat us on our home court.
If Mooney rents a space in McKillop's head, Ford is Mooney's landlord. C'mon guys. St. Louis is not afraid to play us.
No one is afraid to play a Mooney team, well maybe Hofstra, JMU, Radford, Longwood, etc.
The one thing I would say as a response to the point Noah is raising is that the off campus athletes are likely subject to another suite of COVID protocols including routine testing etc that regular off campus students might not be subjected to. So it is not likely so binary as “off campus athletes are an unknown exception to our normal protocols”.
Could be if Ford was concerned about the conditioning of his players. This gives the team days to get back into the flow
Of course they are subject to other testing. & they should be able to play and come to campus. But to be fair I don't think Noah stated otherwise. He said UR instituted a no exception policy thru Feb 8 & had email documentation and a 1st person account phone call from UR VP to back that up. A no exception policy that in actuality allows a pretty large % of exceptions is not a no exception policy at all. UR or the athletic department have a fair opportunity to address his Collegian piece if they choose.
Think u r onto something here Chop. perhaps this relates to the University protocols athletics is NOT following. If Hardt puts out a statement like he did that says we r adhering to all UR A10 ncaa & state protocols & it is easily disproven that we in fact do not then u have to add the word ‘appropriate’.
tho kinda strange to essentially call your own UR protocols inappropriate.
but we won’t get more they’ll try to make this go away. I mean we agreed to confidentiality agreement after A10 sided w SLU. Think weak move by SLU to leave but my goodness we have a lot of problems in our AD regardless.
I dunno. I came away from the piece feeling like the kid is a snowflake. Aside from himself, is there a single human on campus that cares that he couldn't attend the game?
Mo- I couldn’t help but notice the irony that it felt like a whiny article that as a lapdog of Mooney he expected special treatment. And then got upset when he didn’t get it. However, it highlighted the whole issue that UR can’t even keep it’s own story straight.
UR has a long history of hiding issues and creating smoke screens. I used to think UR behaved in honorable manners but over time the lengthy list has made me very skeptical. Just off the top of my head these are the following items where there has been a lot of smoke blown: A10 move, Stadium, Danny Rocco, Laptops, Patriot League, Soccer/Track, Admissions, Cigna, Frats, Provost, Hiring, CoVid. I’m noting saying that the UR Admin has been in the wrong every time but there’s a definite pattern of miscommunication at a minimum and certainly no shortage of accusations of deceit.
UR has a long history of hiding issues and creating smoke screens. I used to think UR behaved in honorable manners but over time the lengthy list has made me very skeptical. Just off the top of my head these are the following items where there has been a lot of smoke blown: A10 move, Stadium, Danny Rocco, Laptops, Patriot League, Soccer/Track, Admissions, Cigna, Frats, Provost, Hiring, CoVid. I’m noting saying that the UR Admin has been in the wrong every time but there’s a definite pattern of miscommunication at a minimum and certainly no shortage of accusations of deceit.
There were quite a few intramural battles between Cigna Chi and Cigna Alpha Epsilon in my day.
Our basketball program is harder to follow every day. Yes, will probably continue to do so because its just what I do. We may be right here, or there may not be a right here. But man, my overall impression with Mooney is as soon as he has a little success, he rests. Its very evident in his recruiting. Watch the next four years, this is Nelson's team, he will not look to bring in another stud PG recruit until Neslson has graduated. Same thing with big men, he waits until one has graduated and then tries for another. Defense sucks and lost effectiveness YOY, let's wait until there is a billboard and AD calls me in the office. LETS GO. Exciting time to be a Spider!!
And yes, I have some sympathy for the fact we are trying to muddle through a covid season, and all kinds of injuries, but everyone else is dealing with covid too. Bona coach seems to adapt.
And yes, I have some sympathy for the fact we are trying to muddle through a covid season, and all kinds of injuries, but everyone else is dealing with covid too. Bona coach seems to adapt.
& that’s fine I get that. For me I‘ll cut a 20 year old a break who gives UR bball attention where there has long been a gap. I think a critical eye is better toward authority figures over the lower guys on totem pole. We have UR admin & highly compensated individuals like Hardt & Moon who r not transparent, make poor decisions, or not meet expectations. This is just another example.
And I found it very funny that WallStreetBets is putting up Fire Robinhood billboards all over. Attacking billionaires like Steve Cohen. A parallel to the Fire Mooney crowd attacking billionare PQ, it would seem.
The Cigna scholars program - I’m referring to the 2004 change. Short story it was eliminated with the claim that another program was expanded to provide the same benefits (the UR admin side). Needless to say there was at best miscommunication as the beneficiaries of it would disagree. This wasn’t an athletic department issue but it certainly did not leave UR looking good. And yes, there was definitely a “don’t ask questions and don’t look here” message with claims of confidentiality.
Sorry - I edited out things that may have identified an individual.
Women starting to hit their stride in year 1.5. Roussell is a winner.
Why? We were cleared to play Saturday. I think just the opposite. As many pauses and cancellations there are this year, when both teams get cleared to play, you better play the game.
You are getting confused with VT and UVA. You may be on the wrong board.
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