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Yes, per my Wake buddies there was some hanky panky going on in
Athletic Dept and some academic issues.
I don't buy this. There would be proof or at least some articles somewhere. Certainly something other than "Wake buddies". This was an ill advised firing from an AD who thought Wake should be more like Duke and UNC every year.
https://nesn.com/2010/04/wake-forest-fire-mens-basketball-coach-dino-gaudio-after-three-seasons/
I think Dino would be a great get for us (I have been saying this for years), but he is getting a bit old (he'll be 62 before this season ends). I would still take a few years of Dino over many other options. I was surprised that he went to Louisville to assist Mack and ditched his TV gig. Makes me think he would take a head coaching job again for the right situation.
#NoMoreMooneyTruthing
VT not the kind of stuff where there is ever a mainstream article written. Have you ever heard the Jeff Jones rumors at UVA? I believe it was along those lines. Who knows. URFan1 said undercurrents from the beginning. That kind of stuff is water cooler talk or message boards, so if waiting for "proof" no you won't get that.
Anyway below is a pretty good take I've copied & pasted on Gaudio that I think encapsulates feelings from lot of Wake fans. Now my opinion of Gaudio is actually higher, I thought he got bit of raw deal there. But he mainly comes out looking better because Wake has been terrible since Gaudio. His prior D1 coaching would have never led close to that job minus Prosser untimely death. Almost 62 and just should not be a candidate here.
"This is the bottom line with Dino.
He is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and wasn't the best "people" person (to put it nicely). At WF and every other place he was given the chance to be a head coach, his teams underperformed. Dino got fired at Army after amassing 36-72 record. He got fired from Loyola after going 32-52 (Prosser left him an NCAA team at Loyola, and Loyola declined every year; by Dino's 3rd year at Loyola; they were 7-21 and finished 9th in a 10 team league). Dino was a great assistant for Skip, but that is his ceiling.
Dino would have never ever gotten the WF job if not for Skip's untimely death, and Skip left him a team with 4 NBA players, and each year the team got worse as the year went on. By the end of both seasons, his team's were barely functional. His teams went a collective 28-3 through January 15, and a collective 16-14 after that date with a 1-4 record in the ACC tourney and NCAA tourney; 3 of those 4 losses were to teams that had significantly worse seeds and significantly less talent than Dino's team. His only post-season win came in an OT game against a Texas team that had similarly collapsed at year's end.
Amazes me how people continue to conflate Wellman's epic miscalculation of hiring [] with the decision to dump Dino (believing both to be mistakes). Firing Dino made all of the sense in the world as the program was heading full speed into the abyss, and there was no chance that Dino had the ability to change course.
The decision to fire Dino was the correct move; however, Wellman hired what might of been the only major college basketball coach in the country who would've been worse than Dino.
If Dino had the gravitas to coach a major D-1 program, he would've gotten an offer. He hasn't received any such offer because ADs and search committees know that he is not up to the job. End of story."
That is ridiculous. Underperformed at wake? Beat Texas in the tourney, but they were not good? Firing him was the right move by the AD? Come on. That is someone writing a lot of garbage looking for negatives. And yes, I, like most other people, heard the Jeff Jones rumors.
Did you work with Dino in the recent past or something? You seem awfully animated about a discussion regarding a Wake coach fired more than a decade ago?
If you talk to Wake fans - which I somehow have many - most will say Dino and AD did not get along, but he was deserving of another season. It's pretty easy to see he underperformed when it mattered (postseason play) with the talent assembled. #1 team in country in January 2009 with 4 (still current) NBA players. Flame out that season in QF of ACC tourney then got upset by Cleveland State in first round of NCAA. Next year, with 3 NBA players, lose in ACC QF again and then got annihilated by Kentucky in the second round (30 pt loss).
Almost reminds me of how Mooney's teams seem to fall apart in the end of season/postseason
I hear you, but we are talking about Wake. We are not talking about Duke, UNC, or Kentucky. How on earth could Wake not be happy with two tourneys in three years?
So some wake fans said maybe one more season for Dino? Only one more? Why? To see if he will do better than the second round of the NCAA tourney? My goodness, we are talking about Wake Forest. Look at what they have done since they fired Dino. And then try to tell me that was a good decision.
Wake was the #1 team in the country in the recent past and attracted Tim Duncan and Chris Paul. So it's not like they were Podunk U playing in the Big South. They'd proven an ability to win at the highest level, and they're in the best league in the nation. So I understand the high standards.
Two NCAAs every three years wouldn't even fly at VCU, so you're fooling yourself if you think Wake fans were ok with that back then. In retrospect, they clearly made some bad hires. Whether Gaudio would have continued making tournaments or devolved into the same place they are now, who knows.
Two NCAAs every three years wouldn't even fly at VCU, so you're fooling yourself if you think Wake fans were ok with that back then. In retrospect, they clearly made some bad hires. Whether Gaudio would have continued making tournaments or devolved into the same place they are now, who knows.
Look what they did in the 15ish years prior to Dino. Odom and Prosser had Wake consistently at the top of the ACC and translated to 16 straight postseason appearances with NCAA runs.
Fair shake or not, Dino's time has come and gone and I do not advocate him to be at UR.
Wake has made 2 really bad hires since Dino and so now their program is way way behind others in the ACC. The right coach could restore this program though and restore it rather quickly. I don't think Manning is the guy for them. And obviously something went down with Dino at Wake given that he was fired and also given that he hasn't been hired since.
Maybe he like the TV gig now. Who knows? I doubt he is a candidate that we would be looking at.
Maybe he like the TV gig now. Who knows? I doubt he is a candidate that we would be looking at.
It's ok you're allowed to be a Dino fan. It's not that weird. Weird is being a big UVA fan that posts as a VT fan on VT message board with VT in your handle yet claims you're not a Tech fan. All while being a UR grad with UR as your #1.
Seems suspicious to me, but he always has. Just loco la.....
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Not really, only my recollection of comments from friends well connected in the CBB world
A name that came up on the radio today that may be worth a look b/c he likely would want a head coaching gig before getting consideration for the big chair at UNC - Hubert Davis
Well not sure he needs a head job b4 getting Unc. Maybe. He’ll be a candidate there when it’s time if he stays as top asst. now if Unc is down a bit at the time (for Unc) then maybe it hurts him. There r other candidates though. But it will go to some Unc alum for sure I expect.
But sure sign me up for Hubert Davis. Good guy good coach. Wouldn’t think twice. I mentioned him b4 on here, a few ppl have discussed. Not prominently bc I think most view as very unlikely. But hey go prove yourself Hubert we got a chair waiting!
I would love that hire. From Virginia, great recruiter, and has a lot of connections from his days at UNC. Also from what I heard he is a great dude and would represent our program extremely well. Seem to me like he checks all the boxes.
It was one of the ACC guys on Burton’s show today who mentioned UNC would be hesitant to go to him without HC experience.
I guess it depends on how many years Roy wants to keep coaching. I'd think Roy would want his heir apparent to take some licks as a HC elsewhere before turning over the reins. But if Roy's going to hang it up in a couple of years, nobody's going to want to hire Hubert because they'll assume he'll take the UNC job.
That would be a home run hire. All upside for him and us. I’m fine hiring a new coach every 3 years if we start winning.
especially if we put in their contract a guaranteed home and home
Mt Vernon guy here. I remember u said u were Hubert’s football teammate. I remember watching Lake Braddock come into mt Vernon when I was in middle school & beat us. Hubert was a great WR then. The Majors got their revenge ending Hubert’s hs basketball career tho in playoffs. His hs Head Coach was family friend.
Relative to you. Now get off my lawn.
Updating my coaches watch-list:
1. Nate Oats - Buffalo
2. Earl Grant - Charleston
3. Steve Alford - UCLA
4. Hubert Davis - Assistant at UNC
5. Matt McMahon - Murray State
6. Wes Miller - UNC-Greensboro
7. Nathan Davis - Bucknell
8. Jason Williford - Associate Head coach at UVA
9. John Becker - Vermont
10. Nancy Lieberman
11. TJ Otzelberger - South Dakota State
12. Rick Stansbury - WKU
13. Bob Richey - Furman
14. Mike Jones - Radford
15. Steve Donahue - Penn
1. Nate Oats - Buffalo
2. Earl Grant - Charleston
3. Steve Alford - UCLA
4. Hubert Davis - Assistant at UNC
5. Matt McMahon - Murray State
6. Wes Miller - UNC-Greensboro
7. Nathan Davis - Bucknell
8. Jason Williford - Associate Head coach at UVA
9. John Becker - Vermont
10. Nancy Lieberman
11. TJ Otzelberger - South Dakota State
12. Rick Stansbury - WKU
13. Bob Richey - Furman
14. Mike Jones - Radford
15. Steve Donahue - Penn
I know he's a new head coach, but Griff Aldrich at Longwood is impressive and I think he'll be a winner at Longwood and wherever he coaches. Here's link to his bio on the Longwood page: https://longwoodlancers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=516&path=mbasket
I know this is a one-sided bio- considering it's on the Longwood site, but he's still impressive.
Posted on another thread about Jeff Boals of Stony Brook. Third year there, very good in years 1 and 3, down last year likely because they were reloading (my guess). Former assistant for Matta at Ohio State, boo, but he recruited Sullinger and Deangelo Russell there. He's viewed as an up-and-comer.
EL, Boals intrigues me as well. Big weird looking dude. Having a very good year so far.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Boals
Not a huge hc resume to go off.
All three hc's for the top 3 teams in the American east are interesting - Becker, Boals and Odom have shown some success. Becker has the longest track record - very similar to Nathan Davis.
Here is an under the radar guy to keep an eye on - Andy Toole at Robert Morris. His name was pretty common a couple of years ago when they beat Kentucky in the NIT first round and then they made the NCAA tourney. His teams fell off after that due to some disciplinary problems and some guys transferring up (not like our guys who transfer to DII schools). But his team this year is at the top of the NEC, he knows how to recruit with ties to AAU programs in the Northeast - which is our biggest alumni base as well. He also attended Penn and was part of NCAA teams there - so he gets the academics side. He seems similar to Mooney in his background with the major difference being - he has been a head coach now for 10 years, but is still very young. I feel like we hired Mooney with little head coaching experience, and what little he had was at Air Force - where you don't really do much recruiting there.
Again - not putting Toole on the top of the list, but if his team makes the NCAA tourney and wins a game as a 15 seed or 14 seed - look out, his name will be popping up again.
Again - not putting Toole on the top of the list, but if his team makes the NCAA tourney and wins a game as a 15 seed or 14 seed - look out, his name will be popping up again.
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