Mens - @ VCU - Sat 2/1 4pm CBSSN

[Eight Legger]

I spent the afternoon at the science museum and didn't check the score at all. Knew what it would look like, as we all did. Just got home and watched a few minutes of the video. That's a tank that has no clue what to do, at all. Like deer in headlights. Obviously no coaching preparation, no idea what to run, no plan for how to get open, nothing.

You simply cannot continued to get humiliated like this and do nothing. CHANGE SOMETHING.

 

[SpiderGuy]

I spent the afternoon at the science museum and didn't check the score at all. Knew what it would look like, as we all did. Just got home and watched a few minutes of the video. That's a tank that has no clue what to do, at all. Like deer in headlights. Obviously no coaching preparation, no idea what to run, no plan for how to get open, nothing.

You simply cannot continued to get humiliated like this and do nothing. CHANGE SOMETHING.

Nothings going to change because periodic extensions have perpetuated this.

 

[spider23]

Yep, it's a top down issue I guess. mooniocrity is just taking what is given.

 

[MrTbone]

Did any Spider play well in todays game?

I missed the game accidentally, which is an entirely different statement on the state of the program.

 

[SFspidur]

No answers, though that was obvious. "These things happen," but nobody was "committed enough, proud enough, tough enough to stop the bleeding."

 

[Eight Legger]

Moronic. So sick of his aww shucks attitude. Twenty years of ineptitude against that team and he can't even muster the hint of frustration.

 

[MrTbone]

What is less than zero fire? Fireless?

 

[wr70beh]

Commentator of course giving accolades and mentioned winningest coach in UR history. Never would but would be nice to hear his other dreadful stats at UR.

He’s also the losingest coach in UR history.

 

[fatherspider]

I spent the afternoon at the science museum and didn't check the score at all. Knew what it would look like, as we all did. Just got home and watched a few minutes of the video. That's a tank that has no clue what to do, at all. Like deer in headlights. Obviously no coaching preparation, no idea what to run, no plan for how to get open, nothing.

You simply cannot continued to get humiliated like this and do nothing. CHANGE SOMETHING.

The only way anything happens is if you boycott the program. That is what Mooney and Qman and Hardt have forced upon this university. There is no other choice. They expect full support next season WITH MOONEY, on the hopes of a mediocre season. Really How Dumb Do They Think We Are???
Anyone supporting this program financially is like buying CS money in 1863.

 

[fatherspider]

Did any Spider play well in todays game?

I missed the game accidentally, which is an entirely different statement on the state of the program.

This must be a joke… right

 

[GKiller]

The game was so appalling the last guy to be trolling anyone is trolling us…

 

[GKiller]

No answers, though that was obvious. "These things happen," but nobody was "committed enough, proud enough, tough enough to stop the bleeding."

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What the f is he smiling about?

These things happen…yeah they happen all the damn time to u Mooney. Sure this was the largest margin of defeat ever but u lose by an average of 16 pts at vcu over your whole career. As if this is a new thing. Most r blowouts. U don’t lose by 16 on average without a shit ton of blowouts. He’s kept the game to single digits 2 times out of 15 losses at Siegel. He can’t be that oblivious. These things happen gtfo. Maybe ask yourself why they keep happening.

Worst rivalry coach of all time.

 

[Eight Legger]

Already we have shifted the narrative to "It's the NIL!!" That's the cover being used by the Mooneyites on social media. Always a damn excuse -- for everything.

 

[VegasSpider]

Already we have shifted the narrative to "It's the NIL!!" That's the cover being used by the Mooneyites on social media. Always a damn excuse -- for everything.

Look, obviously we didn't have a problem with it last year right?
The narrative last year was that we were a tremendous destination with a stable coach, good culture, and great system for individuals to thrive in during their last year(s) of eligibility.

So the real question is... which one is more accurate and actually applies to us? I think that's the most important question that needs to be asked right now.

I could care less... as i'm sure you could care less... what ridiculous spin is being put on this 41 point loss. All of the issues we've had all year weren't exposed as badly, previously, because (as an example) William and Mary wasn't as good as VCU and our conference right now clearly isn't all that good, IMO. And, personally, i have a much bigger problem with the William and Mary game, again as an example, than i do with this result. The William and Mary game was winnable... and we did NOTHING to allow ourselves to win it.

This game was a foregone conclusion..... make whatever adjustments you wanted.... and if we lost by 27 as opposed to 41 cause we went zone or something.... I wouldn't feel any better.

My opinion, personally, as i think most people here feel..... is that this year is going to be a more accurate reflection of what this looks like for us moving forward than last year. This isn't a system that you can just have rotatable puzzle pieces... and it's clear by now that we don't adapt quickly to having multiple (or even a single) problem(s) to solve.

I care less that this is the most reasonable conclusion as I do that we likely aren't really willing to admit that this is the case and try to come up with a plan to solve it moving forward that doesn't involve us moving to a scholarship-less conference or something (if those even exist anymore).

 

[VegasSpider]

You simply cannot continued to get humiliated like this and do nothing. CHANGE SOMETHING.

 

[CarolinaSpider]

No answers, though that was obvious. "These things happen," but nobody was "committed enough, proud enough, tough enough to stop the bleeding."

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After watching the last half of the GW game Wednesday, I knew we were tanking the season. We played
uninspired and had absolutely no energy. We need a coach with fire and one who absolutely hates to lose.

 

[spider23]

We all know the drill. Scheduled down years. Build from hs recruits. Hard to win in NIL and portal era. That model does not work for moon, going to take time to build a different way.

 

[KE Spider]

Have become so detached from the program forgot about the game until received a text from one of my sons (not a Spider) ....."Personally, I'd fire Mooney on the spot."

 

[Eight Legger]

Look, obviously we didn't have a problem with it last year right?
The narrative last year was that we were a tremendous destination with a stable coach, good culture, and great system for individuals to thrive in during their last year(s) of eligibility.

So the real question is... which one is more accurate and actually applies to us? I think that's the most important question that needs to be asked right now.

I could care less... as i'm sure you could care less... what ridiculous spin is being put on this 41 point loss. All of the issues we've had all year weren't exposed as badly, previously, because (as an example) William and Mary wasn't as good as VCU and our conference right now clearly isn't all that good, IMO. And, personally, i have a much bigger problem with the William and Mary game, again as an example, than i do with this result. The William and Mary game was winnable... and we did NOTHING to allow ourselves to win it.

This game was a foregone conclusion..... make whatever adjustments you wanted.... and if we lost by 27 as opposed to 41 cause we went zone or something.... I wouldn't feel any better.

My opinion, personally, as i think most people here feel..... is that this year is going to be a more accurate reflection of what this looks like for us moving forward than last year. This isn't a system that you can just have rotatable puzzle pieces... and it's clear by now that we don't adapt quickly to having multiple (or even a single) problem(s) to solve.

I care less that this is the most reasonable conclusion as I do that we likely aren't really willing to admit that this is the case and try to come up with a plan to solve it moving forward that doesn't involve us moving to a scholarship-less conference or something (if those even exist anymore).

Amen. It should be obvious to anyone paying attention that when Mooney has a POY-caliber point guard, we win a fair number of games. When he doesn't, we aren't competitive. It's that simple. His system only works when he has GREAT players, and even then it doesn't typically get us over the hump (see last year).

Our teams under Mooney are never greater than the sum of their parts. Ever. To me, that's evidence that he is not a high-level coach.

 

[SpiderRick]

Mooney..."We've really competed"

I'm ready for a VCU billboard with a picture of Mooney and "Extend Mooney's contract!"

 

[spider23]

Our teams under Mooney are never greater than the sum of their parts.

Agree. As I have noted on many occasions, with Tarrant and JB I was always excited for games, especially big games. With moon, I hope for best but fully expect the worst.

 

[8legs1dream]

Agree. As I have noted on many occasions, with Tarrant and JB I was always excited for games, especially big games. With moon, I hope for best but fully expect the worst.

and for the big rivalry game we hope to keep it within 40

 

[urfan1]

Already we have shifted the narrative to "It's the NIL!!" That's the cover being used by the Mooneyites on social media. Always a damn excuse -- for everything.

Got a link?

 

[Captain Anderson]

Amen. It should be obvious to anyone paying attention that when Mooney has a POY-caliber point guard, we win a fair number of games. When he doesn't, we aren't competitive. It's that simple. His system only works when he has GREAT players, and even then it doesn't typically get us over the hump (see last year).

Our teams under Mooney are never greater than the sum of their parts. Ever. To me, that's evidence that he is not a high-level coach.

Not to mention how many times UR teams have played tight over the last 4 minutes of games and endured random substitution patterns and lack of timeouts, etc. Those are the situations where good/great coaching shines through and long time fans/alums basically expect us to meltdown in those moments after 20 years of data. Mooney’s post game presser sounded like a coach in year 1 of a terrible re-build rather than a guy who is the “all time winningest coach, with a genius system, one of the longest tenured coaches in the country….” He sounded like a corporate CEO robotically reporting bad news to his board and then collecting his giant paycheck. No passion, no anger, and it shows on the court as the game was over in the first few minutes as the team that wanted it took it immediately.