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It appears China has stopped buying soybeans from the US altogether because of trade fight

China is apparently no longer buying U.S. soybeans amid the rise in trade tensions, Bloomberg reported Wednesday. Read the full story
 
trump has been honest in that there will be some pain in getting the playing field more even. it will be worth it if all goes well and we have already seen some positive steps. they don't want to give anything but they do not want a trade war just like we don't. things will be better and they will work out. this is all part of being strong rather than weak in all of our negotiations with other countries. again, democrats should not be allowed within 500 feet of a treaty or immigration.
 
china has made some concessions but is not going into the night quietly, going to take some time. much of what trump says is pre-negotiating like with n. korea. knows there will be those who feel some pain but if it works out, a much better deal and most of this is in the works, not finalized, just be patient. to me, just trying instead of just accepting the status quo is great while people like you obviously are more interested in trivial nothing crap and real fake news. glad i don't have to be on your team, pretty depressing
 
WebSpinner said:
glad i don't have to be on your team
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With your current way of thinking, you couldn't make the team anyway. Team membership requires an open mind, a dedication to meaningful progress, empathy for others less fortunate than yourself, and a willingness to defend principles of Western Democracy.
Looks like you're stuck with Team Trumpf for another year or so.
SO SAD. MAGABIT.

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so funny that you guys are misinformed and uninformed yet you think you know more, hilarious.

major author of obamacare, "we had to lie to the people, if we told them the truth, the bill would have never passed.

you can keep your doctor.
 
WebSpinner said:
so funny that you guys are misinformed and uninformed yet you think you know more, hilarious.
major author of obamacare, "we had to lie to the people, if we told them the truth, the bill would have never passed.
you can keep your doctor.
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Who do you hope to persuade with your fallacious tu quoque argument? Debating you is like debating a 10-year-old who does not understand the topic. Trump's never-ending lies are not merely the result of campaign promises. They cover the full gamut of human experience. He is a totally ego-driven fabricator...a narcissistic sociopath and fabulist whose falsehoods know no bounds.
How can you (and your "buds") fail to see this and appreciate the danger it poses to this country?
SAD. MAGAIDT.

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little i, you just don't know a lie when you see one. you just take whatever cnn says and think it is true and we both know not even close.

"you can keep your current policy"
 
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little i, you just don't know a lie when you see one. you just take whatever cnn says and think it is true and we both know not even close.

"you can keep your current policy"
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I kept my policy. No changes. Did you have a problem with yours?
 
my son had to give up the one he paid on his own because the premiums almost doubled. many others had to give up their policies as well. glad you were lucky or just blessed.

"you can keep your doctor."

"we had to lie to the people about obamacare or nobody would have supported it."
 
Your son would have had a decrease in premiums if Hilary had been elected. Blame Trumpf for his megalomaniacal obsession in dismantling the program.

BTW, how did Trumpf do in eliminating the ACF and passing a better program?
 
sure, hillary would have been just great for our country. trump is actually putting americans first as opposed to illegals squatting in our country. if hillary does not end up in jail, our country really does have two systems of justice, one for us and one for them.
 
I'd frankly have no problem with Hillary, Bill, and Donald all in jail. As a Wisconsinite, I was a big Paul Ryan fan until he prostituted himself to the Trumpf republicans. No stones Paul. Glad he's soon to be gone. Now if we could only persuade Corker to run in 2020, we'd have a chance to get back on track.
 
the only one who should be in jail is hillary, a long list of laws she broke, don't think the other two are in any trouble, though the clinton fund is still being looked at as we speak. the funny thing is that trump has been a dem all his life until he saw our country being flushed down the toilet by that party and now is attempting to save it.
 
as i said on the other thread where you asked the same question, did not read your article but uninsureds will go up because the mandate, the forcing of people to purchase is gone so many young folks, just like before obamacare, choose not to purchase it. free at last
 
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as i said on the other thread where you asked the same question, did not read your article but uninsureds will go up because the mandate, the forcing of people to purchase is gone so many young folks, just like before obamacare, choose not to purchase it. free at last
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Why don't you read the articles? Are you afraid of the persuasive logic or do you have a reading problem?
 
little i, whatever you or 32 post to read is from the leftist point of view and will not go there, go to cuba or venezuela and live the good life which you strive for and obviously is not here for you.
 
How do personal attacks on our government leaders accomplish anything other than more polarization?
 
32, all is in the air right now but the bottom line is, trump gets what he wants or he walks away unlike obama, kerry and clinton who just wanted a deal, even if it was bad and made the world less safe.
 
32, if it was so easy, why has it taken decades and numerous presidents and admininstrations to happen? trump does not want your support on this, he is just trying to make the world a safer place. lots of hurdles and things to go but at least we have not given the little guy a thing yet and he has given us a lot, going in the right direction and you know it. of course china is a big player in this and they and s. korea and japan should be the ones with the money, etc but without trump, nothing would be happening and history reflects that because it is worse now than it was in 1952.
 
trade is not fair to the US and trump is attempting to quit giving money to other countries. he wishes to level the playing ground, ran on that and is now working on it. love that he got some european counties to pony up millions to nato, that he cut millions out of the new air force one aircraft being built, cut by millions the amount we sent to the UN and that there are over 20,000 fewer federal government employees now than when he took office. he is getting us lean and spending less while increasing revenues to the treasury, a good formula and will help make america great again. we are on the way and you guys can knit pick all you want but deep down, you know this is the way we should be going not into a european socilist ditch.
 
as trump stated long ago, we will have some tough times as we negotiate FAIR trade treaties with other countries. we want a level playing field, does not exist now and trump is attempting to fix it. will back him and you can find many who do not but his track record so far is spot on and feel the trade deal will work out for us as well. do you know what my major was 32? did not think so, you act like if one did not major in something, they do not understand it, not true, not even close but you just keep thinking your thoughs which you may or may not share with us.
 
of course the other countries will try and protect their advantages so we are in for a fight but in the long run, think it is the right thing for us to do. you guys are all for change except when someone else wants the change, hilarious.
 
Motorcycles? Really? Motorcycles, there is been a declining interest for years. Average age of HD riders are as old as me, old as dirt. Millimeums hate bikes, and and have no interest. The major MC insurance market have been shrinking for many months. Find a better trade war offset.
 
No you don't understand, nickels and dimes from the dollars of yesteday. I have a contract to insure HD MCs through the second largest HD finance source. See the shrinkage daily, find something else but do more research.
 
Moving HD offshore is akin to moving hula hoops offshore, the US Market for HD has been dying for years. Do some research. No need for the personal attack. I see Trumps approval rating on the economy is 51%, thanks for the support.
 
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Growth off shore.Moving off shore.Might be a good idea to sell whole life to former Harley owners here.Talk about nickle and dime business.Small potatoes.Do used cars get insured?Give it a shot.Take a course at the local high school at nights and bone up on tariffs,like Spinner.Good luck.

Spider Club payment due on June 30.No small potatoes.Try making it to 3 digits this year.Try.Donny's tax cut will help all $1,500,000,000,000 in deficit spending.
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Thanks for the tip but I made my SC donations last July, did not wait for the last minute, no big deal, glad to support. The tax cut made it easier to donate. Obama supporters should not mention deficit spending. Just curious, can I buy you an adult beverage at a home football game? Not because of your politics, only because 32 delay was my favorite football play.
 
Pulling guard knocking the wide eyed tackle on his butt after the OT let him through the line untouched inside linebacker bit on the halfback fake, running through hole big enough for a truck. Good for twenty plus once or twice a game. The DT wised up after once or twice and would drop to knees if unblocked. Assumed 32 counter was the pulling guard, great work. You can now change your moniker to Statue of Liberty, I will explain the play later.
 
32counter said:
Trump threatens Harley-Davidson: If it moves overseas 'they will be taxed like never before!'

President Donald Trump says Harley-Davidson will be "taxed like never before" if it moves production overseas. He claims the U.S. motorcycle company was using increased trade tensions as an excuse to justify planned changes in manufacturing.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/26/trump-says-harley-davidson-using-trade-tensions-as-an-excuse.html

Donny,the New York bully,trying to intimitate Harley by saying he’ll apply selective tax on them.Good luck,Donny-never happen.HD going offshore because Donny and Navarro don’t get it.Dopes.
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HD announced move to Thailand in 5/17 before Trump tariffs to avoid Thailand's 60 % tariff.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/25/har...-factory-to-serve-southeast-asian-market.html
 
you guys just don't think BIG and long term. we currently do not have free trade and trump is attempting to level the playing field and make it fair for us, for example canada charges our dairy imports there 275%, is that fair? no and that is the type of thing trump is after along with getting rid of dumping steel and other metals here and hurting our business. you have to look at the big picture and what he is after but you will not because you are stuck on one thing like a motorcycle or a porn star and you are in the hate box with no way out of it......truly sad
 
trump is trying to do the right thing and get us on a level playing ground with the other countries who do not want to give up their advantages and are going to fight his efforts. just like with n. korea, will be hurdles, may not work but is worth the try. 32, you are in a hate box and you don't want peace and prosperity or to even try for it if trump is involved. you want trump to sit on his hands and do nothing. HA, the guys works 20 hour days and he is going to keep on trying to make us better and better and so far he has the trend going in a great direction for the country and its citizens. think companies have to do what is best for them but it will hurt the long term strategy trump has in mind.
 
as mentioned earlier, one has to understand, trump has said it over and over, we will have some rough times while we attempt to make trade fair, you should get and understand what fair is. some industries and people will have it tough while this process takes place. it may not work but he is trying and if he has even some success, will be better for the country and our citizens. these things are not a light switch, you flip it up, you have light, will take time and these countries who currently have huge advantages in trade are not going to give that up and thus we see push back and more hurtful tactics by them. personally feel that he is doing the right thing which does not mean he will get it exactly right but love that he is trying. if a business feels it must make a decision best for them, they will and should do it but before acting, should review the strategy and try and help not make it worse.
 
don't like tariffs at all but when we are being screwed by others, you take what actions you can to level the arena. we do not have free and fair trade right now and trump is attempting get it right. you just don't understand what he is trying to do or just don't care what he is trying to do and that some will hurt in the process but be much better when the fairness comes. you act like we are being a bully when we are actually attempting to tame the bullies.
 
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