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Opening Night Lineup - Just for fun

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OK, let's get our guesses in for opening night starting five:

Guard - D. Hunt
Guard - B. Artis
Forward - AP
Forward - Dusan
Center - Walz


Guard 1 - Hunt seems to be the man by all indications
Guard 2 - I think this could go any number of ways. Could easily see Tyne or GW3 in there. Thinking B. Artis with most D1 experience leads early, Tyne has the Richmond experience/loyalty factor, and maybe GW3 is playing best in practice and gets the nod.
Forward - Could see a healthy Roche here, Tanner maybe - who knows. Hoping AP is so good he wins it day 1.
Forward - I feel like Dusan is heavy favorite here, with his experience, production/skill and size. Even if 100% don't see Soulis on game 1 starting. Beagle or Walz long shots IMO as will be splitting center role mostly I think.
Center - Could see this go either way I feel - but I like Walz' upward trajectory and 2 years behind him in the system for Day 1.

Seems like a season in which we could have four different starters a few weeks in, or later in the season, or maybe it varies week to week an match up. Who are your leaders for Game 1?
 
solid. I just think Beagle gets in the starting lineup but I think Walz has likely done enough to get the start as well so Moon rotates a big out at the 17m mark then the other back in at 13 and they alternate the rest of the half.

This is a very experienced lineup that should be able to be old from the get go.

Hunt
B. Artis
Nescovic
Beagle
Walz

Tyne check in at 17m mark for Beagle. AP checks in for Nescovic just after first media break and Tanner or Roche checks in for B. Artis at same time (whoever has won that spot.) GWIII gets in at about 11m mark as 4th guard. (so 9-man rotation backups are Tyne, AP, Tanner/Roche, GWIII.)

If against a weaker team and we have a big lead, Moon goes to a 10th rotation player - whichever of Roche or Tanner who didn't win that second wing reserve spot.

Can't wait for spiderman to refute my double big lineup.
 
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brooklyn brownstone said:
Can't wait for spiderman to refute my double big lineup.
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100.webp

:D

Guard - D. Hunt
Guard - M. Tyne
Forward - C. Tanner (!)
Forward - Dusan
Center - Walz
 
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Agree, sman, we would need boards from Dusan with this lineup. He should be fine with his size. I have heard some talk of Roche starting with 2 smaller guards, so if Roche could start, why couldn't GW3?

All off season we keep hearing GW3 is shooting the lights out. Let's find out right away if he will keep that going and do just that when the season starts. We have gotten off to too many slow starts in the past few years. Let's start the game with shooting all over the floor, and if we need to make size adjustments, we can.
 
spiderman said:
most teams that say they're playing 3 guards have a guy they call a guard who's at least 6'5" or 6'6".
like my lineup with Tanner at the 3. on our roster we call him a guard but he's 6'6".
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Yes, I hear you, but the way most of them play, they can handle and shoot without a lot of inside stuff. So, that makes them guardable for a smaller guy like GW3, who could actually use his quickness defensively to bother a taller guy more than a taller guy might. And, I do remember seeing a lot of lineups from teams where their 3rd smallest guy was 6'4 or less, including Duquesne, who won the A-10 tourney and a 1st round dance game last year.
 
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VT4700 said:
Yes, I hear you, but the way most of them play, they can handle and shoot without a lot of inside stuff. So, that makes them guardable for a smaller guy like GW3, who could actually use his quickness defensively to bother a taller guy more than a taller guy might. And, I do remember seeing a lot of lineups from teams where their 3rd smallest guy was 6'4 or less, including Duquesne, who won the A-10 tourney and a 1st round dance game last year.
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probably comes down to the earlier question ... who doesn't play?
if enough of the forwards (AP, Dusan, Tanner, Roche, Robinson, McGlothin, maybe Beagle) are really good and earn time, then we won't need to play a 6'2" guy there. but if GW3 is the best option, then we will.
 
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and about Tyne ... he'll have to hit shots. but if he does then he'll need to play a lot.
he's one of the best perimeter defenders we've had.
 
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my issue with the 3 guards is that we don't have a repeat of seasons where it felt like teams were getting very good looks from 3 all the time bc they were just shooting over our small guards. Tyne does help there - as does Hunt - by being plus defenders who can at least be near shooters most of the time. But on rotation close outs, small guys are not much of a distraction.

EDIT - I'm not opposed to 3 guards, just fyi, esp if we have plus shooters on the court on offense.
 
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My starting 5 would like like this. I am very high on B. Artis and Collin Tanner. I think that B. Artis can be our go to scorer, probably not at a King type of level but still. He's a very quick good, smooth handle, can shoot the ball on a high clip and I think he's going to suprise some people and teams this year. I think C Tanner is going to have a breakout year this year too, he has good size, can shoot the lights out and he is a good defender and athlete, he can take over that glue guy role that Bailey to an extent had last year but I think tanner is going to be up for the A10 most improved this year.

Hunt
B. Artis
Tanner
Dusan
Walz
 
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I'm going to go with a transfer-heavy starting 5. I'm very high on GW3 based on his pedigree. Haven't seen him in person, but I'd be surprised if he transfers down from Michigan and doesn't get the first crack at a starting role.

G - DeLonnie
G- GW3
F- Dusan
F - Roumoglou
C - Beagle

Bench - B. Artis, Walz, and Tyne see significant time as the first guys off the bench. Tanner is a real question mark - I think he has the opportunity to see significant time with his size and versatility, but don't see big minutes happening right away. Roche will also be in the mix, but unsure how healthy he'll be coming off his surgery.

Like others have said, this is the most competition we've had for minutes in quite some time. Excited to see how this shakes out. For those who are able to attend the NIL preview event, would love to hear what insights you grab from that.
 
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G-Hunt
G-Tyne
F- AP
F-Dusan
C-Beagle

Second guard position and the 3 are tough. I think Tyne showed enough last year to start this year. Makes us small up front though.
 
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We are talking about the first starting lineup for the Mount Olive game right? I don’t have any concern about rebounding in that game. It is an ”everybody plays” game and the starters are going to all be returning players in my version.

Hunt
Tyne
Tanner
Soulis
Walz

Soulis is the most questionable one since he was out all of last year, but I am going with the time in program as being the deciding factor.
 
Tyne had a lot of positives as a freshman, but he didn't shoot well at all last year. He was 21-78 (26.9%) from 3 last year and only 27-72(37.5%) from 2. His 39% eFG% was lowest for the rotation guys by a good margin. And, he was usually pretty open when he shot.

His shot did look good to me and I kept waiting for a mini hot streak that never happened. Hopefully, he will knock more down this year because he does add a lot elsewhere out there.
 
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My observation was his form up top was pretty good, but his feet were often not set or not organized. He looked better from the corners b/c he couldn't drift on the shot and had to keep momentum facing/towards the rim. Get the puppies organized, as Rafferty would say. But there's hope.
 
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Start your best 5:
G - Hunt
G - GW3
F - Neskovic
F - Roumoglou
C - Walz

I think Beagle and Walz probably end up with an equal number of starts, and play together a decent amount, as Beagle gets more accustomed to the offense, but I expect Walz to start opening night. GW3 is a baller. White is solid but I expect to see him in a 15-20 minute role as the first guard off the bench.
 
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if that's from an eye witness accounts, awesome. otherwise, I'm not just going to assume GW3 and AP are best due to where they came from. they haven't played college ball. at least Dusan has proven himself somewhat.
can't wait to see these guys.
 
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Over Reaction Monday :)

Ok, since we don't have a lot to go on, or know Mooney's thought process on Day 1 starters (though more I think about it - we do know loyalty has been big factor in the past). So this is mostly based on comments from the scrimmage.

Guard - D. Hunt
Guard - Tyne
Guard - GW3
Forward - Dusan
Center - Walz

Like what I heard about Tyne, and he was really solid in game action last year. Returning player that played heavy minutes, and add to that B. Artis missing time with injury. All adds up to Tyne getting first crack in my mind.
GW3 - We have had several reports of him shooting very well in practice, and now in scrimmage. The HS tape shows him to be a + athlete. Questions, how is his defense? Will we be too small with 3 guard. Hard to tell a lot from a scrimmage I think, and in no way ruling out Glou or Tanner here. Just my over reaction based on the little we know.
I think someone like Glou, despite practicing with Uconn for two years still may be shaking some rust from little game activitiy (and that was mostly blow outs I think). Tanner is a real wild card but sounds like he is ready to contribute.

Graham - Brooklyn mentioned that Graham seems quite active in the clips and now the scrimmage. IF we go three guards and it is working - I think that is a good scenario for him to get some time possibly.

My hope is still that Glou is that guy, and can be a plus defender on the wing and hit 3's - A 3 and D guy playing 20+ minutes.
 
spider23 said:
Over Reaction Monday :)

Ok, since we don't have a lot to go on, or know Mooney's thought process on Day 1 starters (though more I think about it - we do know loyalty has been big factor in the past). So this is mostly based on comments from the scrimmage.

Guard - D. Hunt
Guard - Tyne
Guard - GW3
Forward - Dusan
Center - Walz

Like what I heard about Tyne, and he was really solid in game action last year. Returning player that played heavy minutes, and add to that B. Artis missing time with injury. All adds up to Tyne getting first crack in my mind.
GW3 - We have had several reports of him shooting very well in practice, and now in scrimmage. The HS tape shows him to be a + athlete. Questions, how is his defense? Will we be too small with 3 guard. Hard to tell a lot from a scrimmage I think, and in no way ruling out Glou or Tanner here. Just my over reaction based on the little we know.
I think someone like Glou, despite practicing with Uconn for two years still may be shaking some rust from little game activitiy (and that was mostly blow outs I think). Tanner is a real wild card but sounds like he is ready to contribute.

Graham - Brooklyn mentioned that Graham seems quite active in the clips and now the scrimmage. IF we go three guards and it is working - I think that is a good scenario for him to get some time possibly.

My hope is still that Glou is that guy, and can be a plus defender on the wing and hit 3's - A 3 and D guy playing 20+ minutes.
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Along these lines here is what I texted my friends about my thoughts on starting lineup after the scrimmage … I am going out on a limb on with Robinson I realize but he is not an average freshman I don’t think ..

Starting lineup prediction : Hunt, mikkel (or B artis) , dusan , Jaylen Robinson , and Walz with GW off the bench to start but with good minutes and may start by conference time
 
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brooklyn brownstone said:
wow, bold prediction Sec. 9

I hope you're correct bc freshmen starters under Moon usually work out well.
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yeah probably a stretch but while I am very optimistic about Dusan in terms of scoring and being a good and tall ball handler, not sure how defensively he will fair in the A10 and think we need someone a strong body playing next to Walz as well. Not a whole lot of options really if you think about it.
 
I can get onboard with that lineup Sec9. Especially if Tyne and Walz can hit the 3 ball solidly. My concern would be if it has enough shooting. But if they do it has balance and physical strength. Robinson would just be an un-Mooney like thing to do though with the roster as is. So yeah I agree a stretch but I'd view as a big positive if we have a fresh starter ready to go day 1.
 
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Section9.RowD said:
Along these lines here is what I texted my friends about my thoughts on starting lineup after the scrimmage … I am going out on a limb on with Robinson I realize but he is not an average freshman I don’t think ..

Starting lineup prediction : Hunt, mikkel or b artis , dusan , Jaylen Robinson , Walz with GW off the bench to start but with good minutes and may start by conference time
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I thought this was real stretch. Read it as Hunt, Tyne, Artis, Dusan, Robinson as starters. :oops::eek:

Walz and GW off the bench. :p
 
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I agree with the Spider 23 lineup and with the sentiment that it would really be better if someone else emerged on the wing besides GW3 starting. I think we can get away with this lineup for the OOC portion of the schedule because its (the schedule) so bad, we won't get exploited playing three undersized guys at the 3 guard spots, but I really worry come conference time. Unless GW3 is a very good defender who plays bigger than his height, this lineup will be exploited in conference I fear.

Hunt and Dusan seem safe bets but after that I am less sure. I think Tyne really emerges as the next great small guard for us this year and think he is a safe bet to start too but that's far from clear with B. Artis and GW3 (in a more conventional lineup) as possibilities. I like Walz over Beagle (and by the way - - did we ever discuss why Beagle left Albany last year with like 10-15 games still to go??) but guessing that could go either way and will be a timeshare no matter who starts. Which leaves the 3 spot (or however you'd like to describe it in a positionless world) . Lots of possibilities that lead to very different lineups. we need to hit big on this spot to be good this year IMHO.
 
Didn’t realize. Did he leave after first quarter of the Vermont game 2/1?
 
RichmondNative said:
Hunt
Tyne
Tanner
Soulis
Walz
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Know couple month old speculating thread, but surprised not more Mooney loyalty lineups than just this one. Of course not entirely five players like above, but more lineups than with 2/3 players from last season.

Discussion for years of Mooney taking to long to effectively get his system across to of a new set of players. Appears every coach is on equal footing these days in regards to lots of new faces. So that said not being the most pro-Mooney fan, I will give him much praise if he team finishes say 5,6 in conference.

Torvik has 12th, kenpom 11th probably a few under 10th? No Quinn but think Mooney this season has more size, call it PF if you like at his disposal. Also no King but enough three guard rotations that can hopefully shoot the 3. Maybe off base with these two thoughts.

Haven't heard anything about practices but intrigued about what Mooney can/will do having a big size lineup available other than say two less mobile 5s that Quinn and Walz were last year.
 
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