Did you ever really notice any guards posting Hunt or Tyne up last year? I didn't. No one even posted Jacob up either. That's not what guards do anymore. They don't work at it. They work on their handle, their 3s, and driving. I remember SDad telling us Dji would post all these other guards up. He didn't. He had a good year and was real good at driving to the basket, but we never saw any post ups. That's what Tyne and Hunt can prevent...the drives to the basket.
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Not panicking, just pointing out that he is likely not on the same level on defense as last year's forwards. If he can be solid, and forward next to him good on D, and both scorers - that can make up the difference. But eyewitness account from scrimmage on this board seems to back up the idea that he is not going to be a + defender. I hope he is though.
doesn't this prove the initial point that we should hope Moon can identify his best five and their fit before the OOC is a wash? If he was still looking for shooting by game 10 he must have missed the season Jordan was having.
That's okay to me. I know defense is important. Big time important, but if Dusan can be one of our top scorers, I am okay with just average D. A guy with his size who can shoot and score....add great D and we are talking a 1st round NBA pick. I guess I am just more realistic and don't expect all of our guys to be great at both offense and defense.
No, doesn't really prove your point at all, but no worries. I think you are worried too much about how and when Dji started. It's not like Mooney didn't play him much and then said maybe he should play. He had 6 games with 26 or more minutes before he started game 10.
I hear you. Dji and Bigs were really good at that end. I don't expect us to match that this year. But, maybe we find more offense to offset that. We had several games where we really struggled offensively last year. Our offensive efficiency was only 156 last year. Our defense was 34. Maybe we have a lesser defense, but a better offense and the result is another great regular season followed by some post season noise this time.
I think you always look for shooting. It's the way the game is now and you can never have enough shooters. Don't forget we had several bad shooting games from 3 during our 1st 9 OOC games: 5-19 against BC, 5-20 against Colorado, Wichita St 7-23, No Iowa 6-18. All losses. Dji was 0-1, 1-1, 0-0, and 0-0 from 3 those games. So, I do understand why we gave Noyes some games to see if he could get it done. He couldn't, and Dji proved he was the better option. Not sure what the issue is with this.
Speaking of Noyes I do still think there’s potential maybe he needed different kind of O idk. He had 3 years here & chances but will be interesting to see what he does at Belmont.
My concern with Tanner is he was behind Noyes and got no time like last on bench almost. Reports r good but we normally get a preseason good report that doesn’t pan out. Would like to see it bc there’s an opening for shooter with size. 1 of him Glou or McGlothin I think he has to be a player for us.
My concern with Tanner is he was behind Noyes and got no time like last on bench almost. Reports r good but we normally get a preseason good report that doesn’t pan out. Would like to see it bc there’s an opening for shooter with size. 1 of him Glou or McGlothin I think he has to be a player for us.
Dobbins was certainly longer than Tyne. I'll wait to see how Tyne's career goes. off to a remarkably comparable statistical start after freshman year though!
Dobbins: 16.4 mpg, 4.7 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.8 apg, 1.1 spg, 1.5 tov
Tyne: 17.0 mpg, 4.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.8 apg, 0.5 spg, 0.5 tov
let's hope Tyne has a similar impact for us.
Dobbins: 16.4 mpg, 4.7 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.8 apg, 1.1 spg, 1.5 tov
Tyne: 17.0 mpg, 4.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.8 apg, 0.5 spg, 0.5 tov
let's hope Tyne has a similar impact for us.
Agreed. I think he is going to have a great season and potentially be our leading scorer.
Nice job by 23 starting this thread. With the portal we don't get nearly as many 23 write ups on our returning guys. 23, how about some write ups on our transfers?
To revisit this:
My number one X factors Robinson / Soulis - Nonexistent so far in two scrimmages. Anyone know anything about Soulis injury. Did he play in either scrimmage in the 5th quarter? Assuming he is still on the shelf, but no idea. Still hopeful to see some of Robinson this year, it's a busy spot to break into - whether wing or Bigs Forward - but again feel like he could bring some elements the other guys do not.
Number 2 x factor was Glou. Excellent offensive production so far. If he can shoot it anywhere near what he has in the scrimmages should be a big player. Question: What position does he guard best - wing forward or Bigs forward?
Number 3 - Tanner. Very similar to Glou in excellent offensive production. I think the fact that he started both scrimmages indicates he is in for a big role. Now watch some tape of Dji playing D and bring that to the table and it will be a very nice good indicator for Spiders success.
Number 4 - Graham - got some burn.
One of my assumptions was 4 back court guys vying for big minutes. So far no B. Artis due to injury. Very curious as to his role once healthy. GW3 is a bit of a mystery. Did not get huge minutes in the scrimmages, but still a lot of upside. Tyne and Hunt doing as expected. Really excited about Tyne if he can shoot it well. As well as they move their feet - if we do have to zone to cover other defensive liabilities - could be a problem with bothering shooters.
Center Position - Going as expected or better. I do expect the Walz/Beagle combo to put up more numbers and be more effective than the Quinn/Walz combo.
My number one X factors Robinson / Soulis - Nonexistent so far in two scrimmages. Anyone know anything about Soulis injury. Did he play in either scrimmage in the 5th quarter? Assuming he is still on the shelf, but no idea. Still hopeful to see some of Robinson this year, it's a busy spot to break into - whether wing or Bigs Forward - but again feel like he could bring some elements the other guys do not.
Number 2 x factor was Glou. Excellent offensive production so far. If he can shoot it anywhere near what he has in the scrimmages should be a big player. Question: What position does he guard best - wing forward or Bigs forward?
Number 3 - Tanner. Very similar to Glou in excellent offensive production. I think the fact that he started both scrimmages indicates he is in for a big role. Now watch some tape of Dji playing D and bring that to the table and it will be a very nice good indicator for Spiders success.
Number 4 - Graham - got some burn.
One of my assumptions was 4 back court guys vying for big minutes. So far no B. Artis due to injury. Very curious as to his role once healthy. GW3 is a bit of a mystery. Did not get huge minutes in the scrimmages, but still a lot of upside. Tyne and Hunt doing as expected. Really excited about Tyne if he can shoot it well. As well as they move their feet - if we do have to zone to cover other defensive liabilities - could be a problem with bothering shooters.
Center Position - Going as expected or better. I do expect the Walz/Beagle combo to put up more numbers and be more effective than the Quinn/Walz combo.
in that 3 Bid League podcast, Dr John Giannini said Soulis hasn't been healthy. and that more than anything would be why Walz and Beagle might not play together. said they want to and it can work, but with Soulis out we really can't as there's no backup then.
there was a Soulis IG video posted last week where he ran through a day in the life of what it's like for him at UR as a student athlete. Looked like he's getting treatment and lifting weights. There were a couple clips of hoops practice but the only clip that showed him in action in a team setting also has Jordan King in it (#2 with back to camera) so it appears they lifted at least that clip from last year. So my guess is I don't think he's in contact drills or team scrimmages at practice by this update.
@spidermbb is the account on IG, it's currently the 2nd post on there from the top.
@spidermbb is the account on IG, it's currently the 2nd post on there from the top.
JOC reported both B Artis and Soulis were expected to be healthy and available at start of season. Obv both have been dealing w recovery from injuries but the hold out from scrimmages sounded more precautionary. Reading btw the lines. I think it was in the ODU scrimmage recap but don’t remember which article.
