no signs Richmond will extend contract of hoops coach
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Some time ago, I broke the very big scoop that employees often have meetings with their supervisors. Ya'll just won't listen.
Jeff Jones signs four-year contract extension with ODU
https://www.wavy.com/sports/local-s...r-year-contract-extension-with-odu/1391506343
https://www.wavy.com/sports/local-s...r-year-contract-extension-with-odu/1391506343
Jones is making half as much as Mooney (after his extension) but has won 24 more games at ODU the past 5 years than Mooney has won at Richmond. Unbelievable.
Bummer for him. It's not happening this coming season. I sure hope a coach from a smaller program that's a players' coach is hired. We need a strong UR in this conference.
It is believable because it is the reality of our program right now. Jeff Jones is doing an amazing job at ODU, particularly considering how he has had to deal with the transition to CUSA, a move made to for football reasons but was not a good move for their hoops program.
Meanwhile, we moved up to the A-10 to improve our hoops program, pay our coach twice as much, and get what we are getting right now.
I know Jones has some baggage but admire the job he is doing at ODU and wonder if he could be on a list of potential candidate for our hopefully open position next spring.
Jeff Jones is coaching in a weaker conference than the A-10 and has not taken ODU to the NCAA tourney in his 5 years there. Before that, he was at American and took them to 2 NCAA tourneys in 13 seasons, 12 of which were in the Patriot League, which is one of the weakest conferences out there.
I don't think doing anything that might close any potential employment doors down the road would be overly wise for you.
Wes Miller is killing it at UNC-Wherever. Guy loves the game and has passion, and recruiting the hell out of it. Polar opposite of our freaking DOA limp coach. This is my guy. Watch him work. Hope Moon and Queally enjoyed a couple cocktails at the course today.
Fake good guy, no passion, no basketball IQ, no in game adjustments. Mailing it in. That is our guy. Hoorah!!!
23, don't forget our immensely qualified associate head coach, who we nabbed from his previous posts of a "varsity assistant" and head JV coach at a Georgia High School. I'm sure that one whole year at Alabama-Huntsville though gave him all of the experience necessary to be second in command at an A-10 level program. Nothing like going out and getting the best most-qualified candidates to round out your coaching staff.
Ha, yeah. Truthers should love him then. For the record, I am not enamoured with Jeff Jones. I think our program can do a lot better. Just looking at what he has done that past 5 years at ODU, the money he is making makes me realize how little ROI we are getting from Moon Dog. We could be paying someone half as much to deliver this mediocre product. Hopefully, our big donors realize how much of their contributions we are p*ssing away with Mooney's contract, his assistant and everything else we invest in our hoops program to be a .500 program.
97 - record is at .50 in the history of our program, Mooney’s is .55... so your statement isn’t even worth acknowledgement..
You guys expectations are absurd and don’t even make sense...
You guys expectations are absurd and don’t even make sense...
This conversation is devolving into the familiar “56% career winning percentage”’refrain. That’s nothing new and I understand people’s frustration with it. To the original point, I think Hardt is taking a reasonable position that he expects more. Seems like something just about all fans can get behind.
Yeah, after half of a career (and coming off a 12-win season), .550 is SO much better than .500, what an absurd exaggerator he must be.
ANYBODY who would expect a program to have a high winning percentage, play in the NCAA tournament consistently, and win championships
. Must be something wrong with the expectations if it isn't happening Now, where is my participation blue ribbon? I want the "I tried" trophy too.
The "weaker" conference argument doesn't hold water. Guess what. He had a weaker team competing against weaker teams. You have to consider his performance there. He won. Something Mooney has never been able to do at UR. I'll wager that most anyone here would be satisfied with Jeff being coach. It's not going to get much better.
I guess it boils down to expectations. In spite of what's been sunk into Mooney, the program, facilities, etc., there are still those who have tempered expectations. Forbid that after this many years of the same ole same ole, those expecting more would be considered out of bounds for wanting to exceed slightly over .500. If that's the case, why sink any more more investment into the program? Guess the thinking is that it required more $ to meet and stay at the norm.Yeah, after half of a career (and coming off a 12-win season), .550 is SO much better than .500, what an absurd exaggerator he must be.
ANYBODY who would expect a program to have a high winning percentage, play in the NCAA tournament consistently, and win championships
Now, where is my participation blue ribbon? I want the "I tried" trophy too.
i think you’d lose a lot of money on that bet.
If he had a weaker team against those weaker teams, wouldn't that be a problem of his own doing?
He won? What exactly did he win at ODU? Or American? He hasn't won an NCAA tourney game since 1995 at Virginia.
Mooney has never been able to win here? Never? So a Sweet 16 doesn't count as winning?
Satisfied here with JJ? Tbone said it best. You would lose a lot of money betting on that.
Yeah, after half of a career (and coming off a 12-win season), .550 is SO much better than .500, what an absurd exaggerator he must be.
ANYBODY who would expect a program to have a high winning percentage, play in the NCAA tournament consistently, and win championships
Now, where is my participation blue ribbon? I want the "I tried" trophy too.
Yes, 55% is way better than 50%. 237-195 is a heck of a lot better than 216-216. It just is.
Jeff Jones should not be on the short list.
Or even the long list.
Please, just let there be a list.
Or even the long list.
Please, just let there be a list.
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By definition all of those teams in that league are weaker in comparison to the A10. My point was that success either place is an apples to apples comparison. He's done a nice job at Odius even with guys falling off the team and it a difficult rebuilding situation. Oh and he's been to the dance in recent history...I'll stay silent with the rest of this sentence.
I'm pretty sure there would be much happiness here if Mooney were to be replaced. We shall see. That day is coming quickly.
Maybe happiness from about 4 or 5 of you on here if we made a change. Not sure that is enough barking for the AD to make a change tho.
i'm always amused by posts that state how many, or estimate how many, fans will be happy/sad if a particular event such as a coaching change were to happen.
Hopefully the new AD is free thinking and objective in his analysis & conclusions. Also hope he has the wherewithal to do the right thing regardless of contrary thinking from money men. Bottom line - hope he will do the job & carry out the functions he was hired to do.
Cool. I am glad I was able to amuse you. Better than upsetting you, right? Not sure I was estimating that much. Isn't it the same 4 or 5 who are always negative on here and asking for a change regardless of the thread?
I'm always amused by posts that get on someone for making estimates or opinions on a message board, when most, if not all, message boards are filled with nothing but opinions and estimates.
Your comment and my response was to excitement over hiring Jeff jones, which I’m certain is not a desirable outcome for most UR fans, CM supporters or not.
Well said, and valid point -- I guess my amusement is more from those that give specific numbers or percentages. You can almost guarantee someone will jump in an say how far off they are.
Yes I understand much on this and every other message board is nothing but the posters opinion. I call it the modern day electronic water cooler.
Right, but understand, we are the tip of the iceberg!!! If your boy PQ steps down, change will be coming. Moon dog can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.
Well, our AD just stated publicly that we need more winning. So, I guess to him, 55% is not quite good enough.
Most interesting note on that stat is we only had 5 coaches over a span of 46 years.
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