8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
I think it is foolish to base anything on the current NET rankings of the conference but go ahead and serve up the koolaid
Our best ooc loss was to I think a #88 Syracuse. I think if we’re hanging out hat on that being a tough ooc slate then we’re scratching for worms.Fair to think this, but most of our losses were to teams that are probably a lot better than most of the A-10 this year. 6 of our 7 losses are to teams that are 105 or better with Kenpom. Dayton (54), St. Louis (78), us (97), and then Mason (104) are the only A-10 teams higher than 105.
I'm not hanging my hat on our OOC schedule. Seemed pretty obvious with my first sentence I was getting on the A-10 with my comments, not praising our OOC schedule. Not that it matters, but just so you know, Kenpom, who I mentioned I was using, has Clemson at 60 right now. But, my point remains that 6 of our 7 losses are to teams ranked 105 or better. Only 3 of our 14 A-10 opponents are better than 105. Time will tell exactly bad the rest of the A-10 is, and time will tell how many we win.Our best ooc loss was to I think a #88 Syracuse. I think if we’re hanging out hat on that being a tough ooc slate then we’re scratching for worms.
Btw, I don’t think the A10 is going to be a tough run either, but I haven’t seen anything that makes me think we’ll win two thirds of those games.
Yeah, I know what you meant and not claiming you said otherwise. Just saying we look extremely average, I don’t think we look 2:1 win ratio IC, no matter how much “better” the ooc slate compares to our a10 schedule.I'm not hanging my hat on our OOC schedule. Seemed pretty obvious with my first sentence I was getting on the A-10 with my comments, not praising our OOC schedule. Not that it matters, but just so you know, Kenpom, who I mentioned I was using, has Clemson at 60 right now. But, my point remains that 6 of our 7 losses are to teams ranked 105 or better. Only 3 of our 14 A-10 opponents are better than 105. Time will tell exactly bad the rest of the A-10 is, and time will tell how many we win.
LOL. Okay, sure, that's what he meant. So, instead of all of their positive stats, you can cherry pick a few bad ones and say, see, he meant those are not the stats of a winning team? Laughable. Sure, winning teams don't shoot 49% from the field, right? Winning teams don't make 15 FTs and shoot 11 more FTs than their opponents, right? Winning teams don't hold their opponents to 40% shooting, right? Winning teams don't protect the basketball, right? Winning teams don't have a guard score 22 and a big get 12 and 10, right?I think he meant that if you just looked at their stats, you would not assume those would be the stats of a winning team. I agree. They are a three-point shooting team and shot 18% yesterday. They barely made half their free throws. Etc.
I can respect that. Maybe it is more hope with me right now, but if I had to guess, I think 12-6 sounds right. But, 9-9 wouldn't shock me either until we know how good or bad some of these teams really are. I can agree we look very average right now.Yeah, I know what you meant and not claiming you said otherwise. Just saying we look extremely average, I don’t think we look 2:1 win ratio IC, no matter how much “better” the ooc slate compares to our a10 schedule.
I’d love to be wrong.
I understand, and don't blame you. If my posts were consistently shown to be way off and so easily countered by someone like yours have been by me today, I would stop posting with them as well.You've very quickly, for me, become background noise and fortunately like the TV can be turned on or off.
I will stick with your 12-6 prediction until proven wrong. I kind of like agreeing with you for a change, anyway.Kenpom actually has us going 13 - 5. Really hard to figure out the A10 this season, was not expecting some of the game 1 and 2 results.
You're right. My bad. It's definitely not what he meant, even though he said it was.LOL. Okay, sure, that's what he meant. So, instead of all of their positive stats, you can cherry pick a few bad ones and say, see, he meant those are not the stats of a winning team? Laughable. Sure, winning teams don't shoot 49% from the field, right? Winning teams don't make 15 FTs and shoot 11 more FTs than their opponents, right? Winning teams don't hold their opponents to 40% shooting, right? Winning teams don't protect the basketball, right? Winning teams don't have a guard score 22 and a big get 12 and 10, right?
Shot clock violator should be in Mooney’s job title.As long as the first 20 seconds of the shot clock is spent bringing the ball up the court and passing the ball around the perimeter 30 feet from the basket which includes your 7 footer, this offense will struggle. Too many times with 5 or 6 seconds left, Burton, Grace, somebody tries to force it to the basket and it winds up being a cluster. Hard to get Roche looks by playing inside out when everyone is out. Mooney's offense is beautiful when it works but not so much when it doesn't. Like his match up defense, A10 coaches are figuring out how to defend his offense. If you don't change things up some it gets easier and easier to do.
Not exactly, I think he only has us as an underdog in 5, not quite the same thing as 5 expected losses.Kenpom actually has us going 13 - 5. Really hard to figure out the A10 this season, was not expecting some of the game 1 and 2 results.
Didn't watch a second but looking at stats a MOST accurate observation as to the initial gameplan after the tap. Possibly Mooney was using reserve psychology.Have seen Goo Moos several times this year, we can own the low block if we want.
I hear you and agree we want much better production in 36 minutes, but I think Nelson's foul trouble and how we played when Goose went back in after sitting in the 2nd half was a big reason Goose played 36 minutes. Nelson sat the final 17 minutes of the 1st half, so Goose was out there for 19 of the 20 minutes then. In the 2nd half, Nelson picked up his 3rd with about 15 minutes left, and then Goose sat from the 13 to the 10 minute mark. So, until then, not sure we should do a lot different. You could say sit him some in the final 10 minutes, but when he came back in around the 10 minute mark, we were down 50-43, and the next 6 minutes we went on an 11-3 run to take a 54-53 lead at the 4 minute mark. So, again, I will agree with you that we want and need more offensive production if he is on the floor for 36 minutes, but in this particular game, I'm not sure there was a definite time to say he should not be out there.I got roasted on the Goose take last game. But, I just don't see how a guy can play 36 minutes, take 1 shot, grab 2 rebounds, and have several bad turnovers and yet still play 36 minutes. I'm sure his defense was lock down and all, but that is literally giving us nothing on the offensive end of the floor. And given that we scored 58 points, perhaps a bit more offense was needed.
I don't know who was guarding Polite but we sure made him look like a first team all A-10 player.
He obviously responded to my dig last game and then no dig and he doesn't. So, I will have to continue with the beatings until morale improves.I think the lesson here is that Goose low key uses the message board for motivation, seems to play well after we give him the run down. 97 keep it going after this no show and maybe we can get some offense from Goose vs Gdub.
Agreed that Nelson's foul trouble left us with little options. Randolph is the only other ballhandler available and I haven't seen enough of him to leave him out there on his own without another viable option to bring the ball up.I hear you and agree we want much better production in 36 minutes, but I think Nelson's foul trouble and how we played when Goose went back in after sitting in the 2nd half was a big reason Goose played 36 minutes. Nelson sat the final 17 minutes of the 1st half, so Goose was out there for 19 of the 20 minutes then. In the 2nd half, Nelson picked up his 3rd with about 15 minutes left, and then Goose sat from the 13 to the 10 minute mark. So, until then, not sure we should do a lot different. You could say sit him some in the final 10 minutes, but when he came back in around the 10 minute mark, we were down 50-43, and the next 6 minutes we went on an 11-3 run to take a 54-53 lead at the 4 minute mark. So, again, I will agree with you that we want and need more offensive production if he is on the floor for 36 minutes, but in this particular game, I'm not sure there was a definite time to say he should not be out there.
He obviously responded to my dig last game and then no dig and he doesn't. So, I will have to continue with the beatings until morale improves.
Partially agree, but Crabtree came in for the last 2 minutes of the first half and had one steal on an inbounds play and was solid on D and was never seen again. Seems like he could have gotten some more run and provided a few points from a guard spot.Agreed that Nelson's foul trouble left us with little options. Randolph is the only other ballhandler available and I haven't seen enough of him to leave him out there on his own without another viable option to bring the ball up.
… Hasn’t he won more games than anyone as well? Are you sure you got your degree from UR? 😂How about this statistic, he's lost more games than anyone in Richmond basketball history and still adding to it.
Well we didn’t make our free throws either? I’m not sure why you thought we were supposed to win that game… mason is a better team. Their first 5 were a lot better then our first 5.., I’m guessing that wasn’t known going into the game?Thank you. Precisely what I meant. It was there for the taking and we didn't.
Merrily pointing out the other side of the statistic people seem to forget such as you. And yes I got my degree at a time when people were more civil and didn't make smart ass remarks behind the anonymity of a message board. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the contributions I've made to the school supplemented your education.… Hasn’t he won more games than anyone as well? Are you sure you got your degree from UR? 😂
You're right, we should have never made the trip.Well we didn’t make our free throws either? I’m not sure why you thought we were supposed to win that game… mason is a better team. Their first 5 were a lot better then our first 5.., I’m guessing that wasn’t known going into the game?
Let’s see how Wednesday goes.
The worst of all was reading CM's post-game comments about how happy he was with the effort. I know these are kids and we certainly don't want him to be Sean Miller, but he over-coddles them. Unless behind closed doors he talks differently to them but I doubt it.
This explains a lot if this is your biggest frustration. Do you really think what Mooney says to the media is the same thing he says to his team away from the media? What about the numerous times the players have come out and mentioned how he got on them or had a few choice words for them. Do you always think what coaches say to the media is 100% accurate? Seriously? Wow.This is the biggest frustration many of us have had for years. There's plenty to be said for encouraging players rather than berating them, but that's a lot different from praising poor performances and outcomes, which he seems to do frequently.
Mooney seems perpetually content to play the long game, building for that one shot three years from now instead of doing everything possible to win every game now.
He may say something totally opposite to the team, but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who is two-faced. I think he is what he is, in all environments. And if he is berating players in private but praising them in public, I'd say that sends a mixed message.This explains a lot if this is your biggest frustration. Do you really think what Mooney says to the media is the same thing he says to his team away from the media? What about the numerous times the players have come out and mentioned how he got on them or had a few choice words for them. Do you always think what coaches say to the media is 100% accurate? Seriously? Wow.
Some coaches just don't believe in throwing their guys under the bus to the media. It used to be an ongoing funny topic with Braves fans when they had Bobby Cox managing.
Their starting pitcher could give up 8 runs in 2 innings and Cox would say, "He had good stuff tonight, they just got a couple bloop hits and he was just a little unlucky". He never bad mouthed or blamed his guys to the media, his guys loved him, and they all played super hard for him. A lot like what we have with Mooney.
And funny you said Mooney is playing the win every 3 years and not win every game now game when we often heard on here a few games ago just the opposite, that he worries too much about winning every game instead of giving certain guys more time.
LOL. So, basically he should check with you and say exactly what you think he should say. I hope this is one of your all too often sarcastic takes.He may say something totally opposite to the team, but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who is two-faced. I think he is what he is, in all environments. And if he is berating players in private but praising them in public, I'd say that sends a mixed message.
I'm clearly not suggesting that he throw anyone under the bus – I'm suggesting that the constant "I'm really proud of how we battled back" schtick in games that we should have won but pissed away does no one any good. How about saying "That was a very frustrating loss, because I thought we had every opportunity to win the game but couldn't do it. I saw some positives, but the end result was not what we needed, and we have to play with more urgency next time out." Fair, accurate and to the point. It really isn't hard.
I'm not sure who said that Mooney cares too much about winning every game, but it wasn't me.
Show me where I said that he should check with me and say exactly what I think he should say? Come on dude. Stop the strawman stuff. Can we just have a discussion? I'm simply explaining why he comes off as disingenuous and SUGGESTING what people like me would like to hear him say – even occasionally – after a game like Mason, or W&M, or any number of others that we gave away. I'm just asking him not to blow sunshine up our butts when it's clearly raining outside, that's all. Too tall an ask?LOL. So, basically he should check with you and say exactly what you think he should say. I hope this is one of your all too often sarcastic takes.
Mixed message? LOL. Yep, I'm sure the players are really frustrated when they see he didn't call them out to the media. And, I have no idea why you think what Mooney says to the media for 5 minutes would be more telling to the guys than what he says to them every day for a couple hours.
Yes, it actually is too much to ask because you are asking him to worry more about the fans than the team. It makes no sense. So, after a loss you would be a lot happier if he said something different? How does this 1% matter?Show me where I said that he should check with me and say exactly what I think he should say? Come on dude. Stop the strawman stuff. Can we just have a discussion? I'm simply explaining why he comes off as disingenuous and SUGGESTING what people like me would like to hear him say – even occasionally – after a game like Mason, or W&M, or any number of others that we gave away. I'm just asking him not to blow sunshine up our butts when it's clearly raining outside, that's all. Too tall an ask?