Lunardi impact
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Yep laughable that 4700 defending Lunardi and ethics. Gave me a good laugh. Next we will be told Miller is a humanitarian for throwing Buck under the bus and Bob Black playing along.
Yes, and now he is nearly 3,000 miles away playing on a 4-8 low mid major team who is currently #330 in the NET rankings.
23 consider using emojis next time to avoid the urfan1 reprimand. Like me you may not be a big fan of emojis but gotta do what you gotta do sometimes.
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Lunardi and ethics
On a related subject the Rivals emoji list sucks anyway
For example...
Lunardi and ethics
On a related subject the Rivals emoji list sucks anyway
True, but I still miss Buck. I really enjoy this team and how it fits together, but in a perfect world I’d replace Woj with Buck (sorry Woj...).
Hopefully I’m proven wrong.
Nathan, I like Woj, but to your point. Buck was a tough defender who covered taller guys and could not be bodied out. I think Buck became a better shooter, but Woj has a more pure shot as a frosh, but is in slump city right now. Buck also enjoyed up tempo which I am not sure Woj forte is speed up.
Yes, the dramatic drop in minutes definitely has affected Woj. Tough spot for him, ideally he can adjust and be able to hit the floor running and have an impact in limited minutes, but so far it does not seem to suit him.
Lunardi update...
12/23 bracketology - we are nowhere to be found in his bracket nor in his first EIGHT out.
VCU is still in his bracket.
Joey do you not respect our body of work and schedule to date? Please report to Jabba the Hardt's office on afternoon of January 2nd when you are in town with St. Joe's.
12/23 bracketology - we are nowhere to be found in his bracket nor in his first EIGHT out.
VCU is still in his bracket.
Joey do you not respect our body of work and schedule to date? Please report to Jabba the Hardt's office on afternoon of January 2nd when you are in town with St. Joe's.
Yea he saw us get hammered against Radford and sees that the likelihood of us having a bunch more bad losses is pretty likely. I think your post is in jest but no way we deserve to be mentioned.
Lunardi update...
1/3 bracketology - not much reason to look but we are nowhere to be found in his bracket nor in his first 8 out.
But Lunardi is counting that $ from UR. Did Lunardi and Jabba the Hardt have lunch at the Tavern yesterday? My local sources say Yes. Hardt ordered what else...Meat AND potatoes. Self described meat & potatoes guy. No new years resolutions from our svelte AD.
What is new is Joey Bags just has 1 A10 team in whole bracket. VCU is now the 8th team out. All this talk about the A10 doing so much better this year and we can rely on A10 to carry us with big wins. And we have 1 whole team after OOC play.
11-3 Spiders with a massive beat down of his squad St Joes. Clearly he does not respect our schedule and resume to date (oh the irony) nor think much of the A10 and he's an A10 guy.
1/3 bracketology - not much reason to look but we are nowhere to be found in his bracket nor in his first 8 out.
But Lunardi is counting that $ from UR. Did Lunardi and Jabba the Hardt have lunch at the Tavern yesterday? My local sources say Yes. Hardt ordered what else...Meat AND potatoes. Self described meat & potatoes guy. No new years resolutions from our svelte AD.
What is new is Joey Bags just has 1 A10 team in whole bracket. VCU is now the 8th team out. All this talk about the A10 doing so much better this year and we can rely on A10 to carry us with big wins. And we have 1 whole team after OOC play.
11-3 Spiders with a massive beat down of his squad St Joes. Clearly he does not respect our schedule and resume to date (oh the irony) nor think much of the A10 and he's an A10 guy.
Ohhh Gkiller, next time have your sources tip you off in time to get a table next to the dyamic duo. Would love to hear that conversation - without the mauling of the meat and potatoes audio. Seems like the A10 as a group really took a dive the last 10 days, other than Dayton. Good thing is that we have Dayton at home, maybe we have a punchers chance in that one. I think we have a shot. Need to show in Rhody first.
My sources told me Moon & Philly Bob Black joined them. Everyone short armed the check so they just expensed it to UR. Very little business was discussed. There was a lot of talk about the Eagles. Hardt said something about Iowa and was ignored. But he didn't care because there was a Sirloin special.
We absolutely can count on a good A-10 to help us this year. When some of the top A-10 teams start getting wins against each other, and the rest of the conference, you will likely see more A-10 teams creeping up on Lunardi's bracket, and maybe even sneaking in there. But, more importantly, winning the right A- 10 games, and enough of them, will put A-10 teams, hopefully us included, in position to get a bid.
There could also be very little separation of the top teams and they trade wins and lose some to the improved A10 middle or worst case to the bad back of A10. Obviously yes want you describe is what we hope & plan. This URI game Sunday will tell us a ton, and put back in a position of relative strength not weakness. Let's roll the freaking rock downhill not uphill for once.
I don't think A10 will end up with only 1 legit at large candidate team, so I don't disagree with you, however there are other bad scenarios out there too. The A10 is certainly improved over very recent past but won't help as much as some expected imo. Always another reason to have scheduled harder (as originally explicitly stated & planned) in OOC and yes I'll keep harping on that.
Fact is to date for all this talk about A10 being so much stronger and doing well we have 1 team in there and the next closest is 8th team out. 1 guy but he's also a pro A10 guy and the most visible.
Do you know if Lunardi discussed any of this at the lunch yesterday?
The bottom line is the A-10 did well enough out of conference to put us in position to get a bid. Also, our out of conference schedule put us in position to get a bid. You can keep getting on the schedule, but the numbers say otherwise. We have the third highest net in the conference at 64, and have one of the best out of conference wins. We are in real good shape right now. We are 11-3 with a win over Wisconsin, a net of 64, and we have opportunities in conference to get more good wins. If we do not get a bid, it will be because we did not have a good enough in conference season.
The numbers are fluid. For example Wisco could be a great win come tourney time or just so so. I've said it before so no need to get deep into the weeds but the OOC numbers don't end now, they influence all year. The IC and OOC go together, whether the OOC helped or not will not be completely known until later. Our OOC SOS is below average, that was a failure on our part imo, but maybe that improves we'll see. I don't know all the algorithims of the NET nor do you but with a weak SOS we have less margin. Of course we have to do well IC that is a given, it's how well.
Earlier we had a NET of 22 and were 10-1. We'll see what the numbers say eventually. Finish the Fight as they said up in DC, the District of Champions. NCAA or bust.
So, who did you want us to schedule then? You say the good teams we scheduled could end up bad. Well what about the teams you wanted us to schedule? Couldn't they end up bad? Or, if not and you wanted us to schedule the top teams, why assume we would beat them? We had a good chance for a possible quad one win against Bama and did not get it done, so I'm not sure it would have been smart to schedule more road games against decent power teams. I think our schedule was more than good enough if we end on the bubble, so we can just disagree.
Agree with the rest of your post, but history tells us Wisconsin is almost certainly not going to be a so so win. That was a great win for any Spider team.
Can we agree that it would have been preferable to at least have had a schedule that ranked in the top half of the Atlantic 10?
Good timing Go. Yes historically and symbolically Wisco is a great W for us. I respect their program a lot. I was just talking the numbers hypothetically this year only. Admittedly I didn't think they'd automatically be a lock like say a Kansas win was for us or even Purdue that one year to have great or very good raw numbers. But right now they r proving that wrong w big back to back wins over TN and OSU. Go Badgers. Let's no waste it. NCAA or bust.
I figured you did. But even with their not so stellar record their computer numbers have put them in the top 30. I'm sure after tonight they'll shoot up.
Not if we would have had more losses and a lower NET. The committee looks at more than the SOS number. Otherwise, we would not even need a committee, right? An OOC schedule of Auburn, Wisky, Bama, Charleston, BC, and Vandy along with maybe 3 more top 150 teams looks more than respectable.
my memory wasn't to far off, I had thought there were only 6, not good odds for any mm team to get an at-large It looks to me the net is designed to help the P6 team.
The NET wasn't "designed" to help any particular type of team. While its formula is secret, the five components are public.
The Atlantic 10 is a multi-bid league. We just haven't won enough to get a bid.
The Atlantic 10 is a multi-bid league. We just haven't won enough to get a bid.
If there is a logjam of A10 teams around 12-6, with everyone beating each other, I believe the teams that scheduled the weaker non-conference schedule will be at a disadvantage.
I think the NET is at least better than the awful RPI was as far as being more fair to mid majors is concerned. But, no question, the odds are against mid majors. Take away the American (which seems more and more like a major) and 4 mid majors got 4 total at larges last year. Those 4 conferences have 14, 12, 11, and 10 teams. So, take away their auto bids, and that means there were only 4 at large teams out of 43 possible teams from those multi bid mid major conferences.
If it is a significant difference, maybe. But, there will also be head to head, quad 1 wins, bad losses, road wins, and probably a few other things looked at as well. And, if we are on the bubble, we will be compared to all bubble teams, not just A-10 ones. Sure, best thing would be to schedule hard and beat those teams, but I would rather be 11-3 right now with the schedule we had than be 8-6 or 9-5 with a harder schedule. So, you can say SOS might hurt us if we go 12-6 in the A-10, but going 7-6 or 8-5 OOC would also hurt us if we go 12-6. If we were in a lesser conference with very few chances to get quad 1 or 2 wins, then yes, we would need to schedule a few more quad 1 or 2 teams to have any chance at an at large, but going 10-3 with the Wisconsin win and the 3 losses we have gives us a chance going into conference play.
I agree with that. Even in down years, it has been a multi bid league, and this looks like it will be an up year. So, you are correct, we just have not won enough.
Correct not won enough in several years according to our AD Hardt. 3 maybe 4? Try 8 Jabba but who's counting.
Hopeful re: NET being more beneficial to mid majors too but jury is still out. The lack of bids going to mid majors and what has seemed like a downward trend without knowing the exact numbers is a big negative on the sport. I'm biased with my rooting interest but I really think it detracts from the tournament too, and the first 4 days is really what makes the tournament.
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