This is hard to watch. He keeps getting worse game after game, year after year...ever since Doyle passes on.
Is Shaeffer the worst coach in Division I??
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And at the moment we got beat once again by horrible coaching throughout and at the end of the game. He has to go...asap.
Basketball this season has been tough - women 7-13 - men 6-13........anybody recall the last time both teams were at this level in mid January........?
I give Schaefer credit, at least he took what he had, changed his style,
gave it a theme: Embrace the Pace, and has provided some high scoring games.
But like Mooney, he never seems to have quality depth, thou he plays a lot of
players.
When he was hired from UGA he had a reputation for being a top recruiter. That has
not transpired here. I like how he has changed the team mentality this year, but he just
does not seem to have the players to do it well.
gave it a theme: Embrace the Pace, and has provided some high scoring games.
But like Mooney, he never seems to have quality depth, thou he plays a lot of
players.
When he was hired from UGA he had a reputation for being a top recruiter. That has
not transpired here. I like how he has changed the team mentality this year, but he just
does not seem to have the players to do it well.
Could there possibly be another school at our level or higher that has two current head basketball coaches with a combined 26 years of tenure and just 2 NCAA berths?
Could there be schools at our level (whatever that is) or higher that have been to NCAA only two times in last 26 years independently of coaching tenure? I really don’t know. If there are not, can one be sure coaching is the metric of greatest impact of success or failure.
There could be, but there would not be many of them. And yes, it is possible that the reason for it had nothing to do with coaches. But most universities aim for success and would try to change things up at some point in the hopes that the next guy or woman could do better. They don't simply accept past performances as a guaranteed indicator of future results, as we appear to.
This completely baffles me. It’s almost as if the previous athletic directors forgot that certain sports exist at UR. As long as there is someone to coach and supervise, they’re happy. They seem like they couldn’t care less about women’s teams or about most men’s teams. How many coaches at UR truly worry about their job status if they have back to back losing seasons?
To be fair, most of our sports do pretty well, at least relative to our conferences. National success is somewhat harder to come by given conference weakness, resources we devote, and other challenges. Hoops and baseball are the ones that stand out as not meeting expectations for what should be flagship/emphasized sports. Women’s soccer has struggled for a while, and a change was finally made there.
But football is solid, our golf teams are winning conference titles, and men’s lax is competitive. Women’s lax and field hockey haven’t seen quite the national success they had a decade or so ago, but still generally fare well in the A-10. Tennis has been doing well. T&F/XC do pretty well within the limitation of the areas we’ve chosen to compete in and the understanding that the men’s team operates with very limited resources. Swimming obviously is an A-10 powerhouse despite facility issues.
But football is solid, our golf teams are winning conference titles, and men’s lax is competitive. Women’s lax and field hockey haven’t seen quite the national success they had a decade or so ago, but still generally fare well in the A-10. Tennis has been doing well. T&F/XC do pretty well within the limitation of the areas we’ve chosen to compete in and the understanding that the men’s team operates with very limited resources. Swimming obviously is an A-10 powerhouse despite facility issues.
I could not care less about women’s basketball, but that truly is remarkable for an A10 coach...men’s or women’s.
Since you asked, I decided to look.
Combined NCAA appearances of men’s and women’s programs:
UMass 1 since 1998
Fordham 1 since 1994
La Salle 1 since 1992
Duquesne 1 since 1977
Saint Louis 3 since 2000
George Mason 3 since 2001
Combined NCAA appearances of men’s and women’s programs:
UMass 1 since 1998
Fordham 1 since 1994
La Salle 1 since 1992
Duquesne 1 since 1977
Saint Louis 3 since 2000
George Mason 3 since 2001
Here's the total list of A10 programs' combined NCAA appearances in the past 13 years:
Dayton 12
VCU 10
GW 10
Davidson 6
St. Joe's 5
St. Bonaventure 3
Mason 3
St. Louis 3
Richmond 2
Duquesne 1
Fordham 1
Lasalle 1
Rhode Island 1
UMass 1
Dayton 12
VCU 10
GW 10
Davidson 6
St. Joe's 5
St. Bonaventure 3
Mason 3
St. Louis 3
Richmond 2
Duquesne 1
Fordham 1
Lasalle 1
Rhode Island 1
UMass 1
Hey, LaSalle and Dr. G had a sweet sixteen run a couple of years ago. That would earn you a decade of job security in these parts.
It's interesting to see the numbers, for sure. Obviously, Davidson, Mason and VCU made some of those appearances in other leagues. But when you look at the bottom group that we are with, every single one of those other programs has made at least one (and in some cases two or more) changes in head coaches in their men's programs alone. And I suspect in their women's programs, too.
I'd also venture to guess that we have invested a LOT more financially in our programs during that time than any of the other bottom-feeders have.
This all speaks to the idea that even if the results are not there, almost every other school continues to try to improve by not accepting failure, while we simply continue along doing what we've been doing.
As frustrating as our situation is, I have to say that Rhody and UMass are more perplexing. Those are big state schools with histories of success who could pretty much admit anyone, and they have not gotten it done at all. Kind of amazing, really. Rhody is finally turning it around recently, but 18 lean years? Wow.
I'd also venture to guess that we have invested a LOT more financially in our programs during that time than any of the other bottom-feeders have.
This all speaks to the idea that even if the results are not there, almost every other school continues to try to improve by not accepting failure, while we simply continue along doing what we've been doing.
As frustrating as our situation is, I have to say that Rhody and UMass are more perplexing. Those are big state schools with histories of success who could pretty much admit anyone, and they have not gotten it done at all. Kind of amazing, really. Rhody is finally turning it around recently, but 18 lean years? Wow.
The last strong team Schaefer had was when Becca Wann was playing and before the concussion protocol
ended her career. in 13 years you would think that he would at least once have won the A10 tournament or
finished first in the A10 regular season. I don't recollect him even getting close to either. I feel this fact alone
shows that there needs to be a change of direction and scenery.
I would be curious as to those who have gone to a Lady Spiders game, what they observed, especially this
year with the uptempo pace.
ended her career. in 13 years you would think that he would at least once have won the A10 tournament or
finished first in the A10 regular season. I don't recollect him even getting close to either. I feel this fact alone
shows that there needs to be a change of direction and scenery.
I would be curious as to those who have gone to a Lady Spiders game, what they observed, especially this
year with the uptempo pace.
Our favorite team in town had an 18 year stretch as well '85-'86 to '02-'03. 1 NCAA, 2 NITs...
I miss those days...
This list, in case people don't realize, is combined men's and women's NCAA appearances. If you look at just men's appearances: Fordham and Duquesne have 0, SBU has 1, Mason and GW have 2, etc.
Well, URI had their Coach for Life, from 2001-2002 to 2011-2012 in Jim Baron with no tourney appearances. I guess by this standard Mooney is well ahead of Baron, but not trending well.
My wife and I go quite a bit. She likes going to women’s games better since she played (not at UR). They just don’t have the talent. They have some players who play hard but it doesn’t show up on the scoresheet, and a couple of real players who could start on any team in the league (the Parson sisters from Monocan HS), but that’s it. In past years they kept using the injury excuse. They only had 1 starter this year go down, so he can’t use that excuse this year. Honestly, the A10 is not a powerhouse league in women’s hoops, so all it takes is a couple of WNBA caliber players on a team to dominate the league. Unfortunately all of those players go to UCONN to sit the bench.
Husky, but also athletic.
Ask coach why Olivia Healy transferred to UNH and has been playing very well over the last 2 years.We could have used her ability.She’s from Mass and had injuries with us but she transferred with 2 seasons of eligibility.
http://www.unhwildcats.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6379#
http://www.unhwildcats.com/cumestats.aspx?path=wbball
26-6 in 2017
14-6 in 2018
Maybe she wanted to play with a winner.Cant blame her.
http://www.unhwildcats.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6379#
http://www.unhwildcats.com/cumestats.aspx?path=wbball
26-6 in 2017
14-6 in 2018
Maybe she wanted to play with a winner.Cant blame her.
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Rise and Shine! It's GAMEDAY
11:30 AM at UMass
VIDEO | http://bit.ly/2nhHTrZ
AUDIO | http://bit.ly/2DRsLb6
STATS | http://bit.ly/2s0keRJ
What a disaster Shafer was today. This wasn't on the players. He has players that can play and are just s athletic as davidson. But learn how to coach! When to call a timeout! What players to use in situations! How to run an offense that isn't pass, pass, pass, go one on three. I'm sick of watching him make bad decision after bad decision.
Does "time for a change" carry any weight with those who have the power to make the change?
Shafer losing Parsons and his having very little in the recruiting pipeline is the real telling story.If you think this year is bad,wait until next year.
Shafer reports to Sugg.Unless Sugg is pushed to axe Shafer,he’ll be around.Sugg can’t even manage the hiring of a field hockey coach.
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