I believe he is the best guard that's ever played at UR.
Heck of a run
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Subjective, but Kevin Anderson took us two NCAA's, one Sweet 16, scored more points than Gilly and his last two years, UR was nationally ranked at the end of the season. Lots of really big time regular season victories too (Purdue, Florida, Xavier, Mississippi State, Missouri). Won more, and the A-10 was a stronger league back then.
Kevin Anderson is the GOAT; Gilly’s passion and skill was really fun to watch though. He will be missed.
Yes, definitely did a ton of winning, and those were some of the biggest regular season wins ever. Despite the gaudy numbers of the super seniors personal stats, I also think Kevin Anderson had a stronger supporting cast, and some mentally tough players - Gonzo - Geriot - Butler - K Smith - those guys were tough as hell and did not back down. GIlly has potential NBA talent in Burton, KA had Harp.
Up to this point (ha) Kevin Anderson has been my favorite UR player of the guys I've seen in person. I have to think on whether Jacob Gilyard surpasses him, even though one of the worst things about our loss was that we don't get to see him play anymore.
So I think Gilyard was perhaps more fun to watch on a nightly basis, but overall, in my mind, at least right now, Anderson may have been a little better.
So I think Gilyard was perhaps more fun to watch on a nightly basis, but overall, in my mind, at least right now, Anderson may have been a little better.
Kenny, Kendall, Cedric, Jones. We have had some good ones.
Fun to
Agree that the 2010 and 2011 teams were better than our last two or three. Fun to compare KA and JG. Both tremendous players. KA had more points (total and per game average); JG had more assists per game (5.1 to 2.9), obviously more steals (3.0 for JG to 1.5 for KA), 3 point shooting average about the same (34% for KA to 36% for JG), FT shooting about the same (78% for KA - 81% for JG), etc. While I pick JG as the best I would gladly take KA if I couldn't pick JG.
You literally said you were rooting for us to lose.
I mostly browse here and don't post so I don't get too caught up in the discourse but wanted to add my two cents with this being the end of an era and having a few days to reflect. I'm a 2018 grad and was an athlete, so I feel a strong connection to these guys seeing them around on/off the court, and I'm just so proud of them. It was a joy watching Gilly's unique style and how he controlled the game for five years, Grant's passing and flair, Nick's leadership and shotmaking despite injury, not to mention all Nate does. To fight through and make the run they did had to be extremely gratifying to all of them as seniors who know these things don't always go well, and selfishly for myself who was with them for a couple years + as I was transitioning out of UR. I was with my UR buddies at the NYC watch party vs Providence and I know the alumni I was with there felt the same.
I know we rag on Mooney and sometimes the players with us being cutthroat for wins and losses as fans, but wanted to give Moon Dog and the players props in the bigger picture. It's a running gag, but Mooney is a great guy who runs a stand-up program, which counts for something when representing the University and actually enjoying cheering for your team. Having guys like TJ and ShawnDre among others come back for the games, as well as having everyone stick around for extra years speaks to a culture Mooney has built and that they love the program. Definitely excited for the future and happy these guys could go out in the tournament as they deserved!
I know we rag on Mooney and sometimes the players with us being cutthroat for wins and losses as fans, but wanted to give Moon Dog and the players props in the bigger picture. It's a running gag, but Mooney is a great guy who runs a stand-up program, which counts for something when representing the University and actually enjoying cheering for your team. Having guys like TJ and ShawnDre among others come back for the games, as well as having everyone stick around for extra years speaks to a culture Mooney has built and that they love the program. Definitely excited for the future and happy these guys could go out in the tournament as they deserved!
thanks for the input, most all that know Chris would concur with your statements about being a good guy and running a clean program
95% plus percent of college coaches are decent human beings and run a clean program. Those are job pre-requisites. If our head coach wasn't a good guy or was cheating/running a dirty program, he wouldn't be employed. Period.
It's kind of like saying well Chris over in sales hasn't brought in near the same amount of sales as our salespersons, but geez he is a really nice guy and he has stolen from the company, so he's a great employee.
Also ex-players come back and continue to support the program at literally every program in the country. This is not unique or even noteworthy.
I'm not saying I disagree with your sentiment but D-1 head coaches are at the end of the day evaluated on wins and losses. That is the metric. Being nice and not cheating, are two things that any employee, anywhere needs to do to continue to stay employed.
Also, don't slap anyone on national television, unless you are in movies.
I guess Will Smith is just practicing for His Juan Howard role in the future.
I agree that it should be a baseline, but it's one that's not always met. Not in the black and white sense of cheating or illegal, but there have been multiple times where UR leadership inside and outside of athletics has made decisions or acted in ways that's made it difficult to support the university. So when someone is bringing positives to the table instead of just meeting baselines, I think that deserves recognition. More than not cheating, Mooney is bringing in smart, high character people (off the top of my head Nick's social work, Gilly's charity, Kendall Anthony being heavily involved in Jepson, etc.), getting current/former guys to buy in to the team culture it seems like at a very high rate, and representing UR well.
Obviously wins and losses are the most important metric and I'd be lying if I said when we were down to Rhode Island in the A10 tourney I wasn't thinking he should be gone. But at least for me I think it's not the only metric. I want to support who I'm rooting for more than in just results, especially if it's a school I went to and want to be proud of, unlike in the NFL or NBA. Mooney makes it a team worth getting behind in my opinion, results may vary.
You are one of the reasons I am proud to be a Spider. Thanks for sharing.
