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Fire Mooney

How do you feel about losing ugly? Hardt apparently loved this season so much he wants more.
 
some guys here have said that you'd donate but not until Mooney is gone. if you set up something that lists those pledges and it got to a substantial number, you might get the school's attention.
 
some guys here have said that you'd donate but not until Mooney is gone. if you set up something that lists those pledges and it got to a substantial number, you might get the school's attention.
This idea has some legs although every decision UR has made around the program indicates that money isn’t central to the plan.
 
This idea has some legs although every decision UR has made around the program indicates that money isn’t central to the plan.
It's almost as if Mooney is bigger than the program. Isn't he the highest paid employee of the university? We've talked about ROI before. Terrible investment.
 
This idea has some legs although every decision UR has made around the program indicates that money isn’t central to the plan.
Yep. It’s hard to know what they care about. They’ve gladly spent $60 million on the basketball program the past decade, so we know they’re good at spending money. Beyond that? It’s anyone’s guess.
 
I’m just glad Mooney has never used the excuse Travis Ford used against Bonaventure. Saying that the Bonnies got to play at the same court the day before so they had the advantage while SLU had to play at a different court.

What a sorry ass excuse from a sorry ass coach who runs a sorry ass program.

And even knowing how pathetic it is, it’s still way better than the past decade of Mooney
 
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I’m just glad Mooney has never used the excuse Travis Ford used against Bonaventure. Saying that the Bonnies got to play at the same court the day before so they had the advantage while SLU had to play at a different court.

What a sorry ass excuse from a sorry ass coach who runs a sorry ass program.

And even knowing how pathetic it is, it’s still way better than the past decade of Mooney
Did you see Woj dunk on ford after the game? He murdered him with words.
 
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Wow, watching this Pepperdine game vs BYU I’m glad we don’t have a coach this bad. Twice he called a timeout with time in regulation and then OT running down to draw up a play. Both plays fell apart immediately and resulted in turnovers, losing them the game. Just awful stuff
 
Rhoades was mentioned as a candidate for the BC job, along with Schmidt as has been stated previously.

Sounds like the South Carolina job may also be coming open?
 
Imagine that – a few years ago, Martin had South Carolina – a program we beat as a 14 seed in the NCAAs in 1998, by the way – in the Final Four, now they want him fired. Meanwhile, we are perfectly content to enjoy a decade without any NCAA appearances with our coach. Can you imagine how long we would keep Mooney if he delivered a Final Four?
 
Rhoades was mentioned as a candidate for the BC job, along with Schmidt as has been stated previously.

Sounds like the South Carolina job may also be coming open?
I see Rhoades as staying at VCU for the long haul. I think with his family and being here before with Randolph-Macon, he likes the Richmond area. Plus - he left and went to Rice for a few years, so he knows what life is like on the other side. Plus - he has shown, he can be successful at VCU just by making the tourney, which he is doing.
 
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At some point, as a college basketball player and now a coach, wouldn't professional pride come into play for him and he'd resign, maybe go somewhere else? He might have a better record planning weddings anyway.

I think pride only goes so far, and I think a few more years of $1.3 million is enough to push that pride down. But i hope you’re right here
 
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I see Rhoades as staying at VCU for the long haul. I think with his family and being here before with Randolph-Macon, he likes the Richmond area. Plus - he left and went to Rice for a few years, so he knows what life is like on the other side. Plus - he has shown, he can be successful at VCU just by making the tourney, which he is doing.
He went to Rice.... That's not exactly "the other side." He'll leave like anyone would if he gets an offer to coach a top-25 ACC team and twice as much money. Though I don't expect that to happen anytime soon if ever.
 
UR admin has no foresight. We’ll be in same situation next year hoping for a coaching change.

this thought that oh tough year w injuries COVID etc. completely ignores that this was the most underachieving season in Spiders history.

the school can easily afford to eat 1 million extra now. It’s a drop in the bucket overall w our financial resources.

you get closer to earning NCAA money now by making a move. Which was an institutional goal. Stop w the kicking the can down the road for once.

but that’s where we are. No foresight. Just a lot of Big Hat No Cattle.
 
I see Rhoades as staying at VCU for the long haul. I think with his family and being here before with Randolph-Macon, he likes the Richmond area. Plus - he left and went to Rice for a few years, so he knows what life is like on the other side. Plus - he has shown, he can be successful at VCU just by making the tourney, which he is doing.
But left assistant job, was it to be head coach at Rice?

And as EL said, there are bigger jobs than Rice.
 
Imagine that – a few years ago, Martin had South Carolina – a program we beat as a 14 seed in the NCAAs in 1998, by the way – in the Final Four, now they want him fired. Meanwhile, we are perfectly content to enjoy a decade without any NCAA appearances with our coach. Can you imagine how long we would keep Mooney if he delivered a Final Four?
No, but I'd like to find out.

Especially if he is here for the long haul anyway.
 
Imagine that – a few years ago, Martin had South Carolina – a program we beat as a 14 seed in the NCAAs in 1998, by the way – in the Final Four, now they want him fired. Meanwhile, we are perfectly content to enjoy a decade without any NCAA appearances with our coach. Can you imagine how long we would keep Mooney if he delivered a Final Four?
That's what's meant by 1) accountability and 2) winning matters. It seems like our priorities (whatever they could be) are upside down & inside out. I think loyalty to Mooney > success of the program.
 
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At some point, as a college basketball player and now a coach, wouldn't professional pride come into play for him and he'd resign, maybe go somewhere else? He might have a better record planning weddings anyway.
There's a million plus $ reasons not to resign at a job that has little pressure. No one can convince me that there is "real" pressure because if there was then he'd have been gone a long time a go. Yet here he is. And here we are with even reduced expectations for the next several years. Great gig. We should all be so lucky.
 
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Imagine that – a few years ago, Martin had South Carolina – a program we beat as a 14 seed in the NCAAs in 1998, by the way – in the Final Four, now they want him fired. Meanwhile, we are perfectly content to enjoy a decade without any NCAA appearances with our coach. Can you imagine how long we would keep Mooney if he delivered a Final Four?

Wouldn’t surprise me if Hardt credited Mooney with a final four last year.
 
Recruit good kids that don’t embarrass UR, and graduate; only requirement. Win and losses are secondary. Rewarded with $1.3M annual payout. Are you entertained?
Yes - the lady on the unicycle, the dancing dogs, and the baby race. Entertainment at it's best. That is what you're talking about, right?
 
i think i just wonder how this season was so bad? I want to say it was very close but wasnt close not close. I never knew Sal was to be a senior and wonder what happened. I dont want Andre to do anmore bench press . I want Burton to practice straight line drive, hard strong to hoop and elevate and finish THRU defender and forget about crossover dribbles.
Very confusing the last three years for me the fan. I like Wilson mental tough. I am losing years watching.
 
North Dakota State followed in the steps of Pepperdine with terrible coaching. Timeout down 1 with 15 seconds left and they don’t get a shot off. Absolutely no play call it was pretty brutal to watch
 
I see Rhoades as staying at VCU for the long haul. I think with his family and being here before with Randolph-Macon, he likes the Richmond area. Plus - he left and went to Rice for a few years, so he knows what life is like on the other side. Plus - he has shown, he can be successful at VCU just by making the tourney, which he is doing.
He will be able to stay there if he keeps winning and gets to the dance every other year at least. If he doesn't he will be tossed to the curb. And Rhoades knows that. I know no one will like to hear this but I respect the Rams for their dedication to winning.
 
He will be able to stay there if he keeps winning and gets to the dance every other year at least. If he doesn't he will be tossed to the curb. And Rhoades knows that. I know no one will like to hear this but I respect the Rams for their dedication to winning.
Agreed - I don't like VCU, but have to give them respect for what they have done and I think Rhoades is a good coach for them. Seems like a players coach on offense that preaches tough defense and just a guy who will get his team to go to work everyday and get better. After last season and with losing Silva - looked like they were trending down. Instead - he has them at top of A10 and in finals.
 
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Agreed - I don't like VCU, but have to give them respect for what they have done and I think Rhoades is a good coach for them. Seems like a players coach on offense that preaches tough defense and just a guy who will get his team to go to work everyday and get better. After last season and with losing Silva - looked like they were trending down. Instead - he has them at top of A10 and in finals.

he has them at the top of the A10, in the finals, and they are almost assured a spot in the NCAA tournament next week as well. I have enjoyed March Madness since I was a kid when I had to get the bracket out of a newspaper and would make copies of it at the library to distribute amongst friends to fill out! I have attended tournament sites all over the country just because I enjoy the drama of the tournament, top shelf talent, and crazy upsets so much.

However, it is a unique and special feeling walking into the arena knowing you are about to see your team play a game at the highest level. Honestly I am starting to forget what that feeling is like and it's not good my friends.
 
Let's not forget that they fell on their face last year with a team of seniors, too. I'd much rather have Rhoades there than any of the other three guys they had. If we get a capable coach in place, we will start evening things out. The main thing they are good at most years is not losing games they should win. They lost two if those this year, but in a short season it didn't really hurt then even though they don't really have but one really nice win (Bona).

They also win their home games. We don't. They are proof that is not that difficult to maker the tournament. Just don't screw up against lousy teams and don't lose at home. That's it. Mooney can't even do that much though.
 
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Let's not forget that they fell on their face last year with a team of seniors, too. I'd much rather have Rhoades there than any of the other three guys they had. If we get a capable coach in place, we will start evening things out. The main thing they are good at most years is not losing games they should win. They lost two if those this year, but in a short season it didn't really hurt then even though they don't really have but one really nice win (Bona).

They also win their home games. We don't. They are proof that is not that difficult to maker the tournament. Just don't screw up against lousy teams and don't lose at home. That's it. Mooney can't even do that much though.
Agreed, VCU's resume is not even that good. They just beat the teams they needed to beat. No signature wins at all for them. Sadly, we had several signature wins but then followed that up with an array of really horrendous losses to teams with significantly less talent than us (Hofstra, LaSalle, St. Joes, and Duq).

That's coaching. Rhoades got the most of out his young team, Mooney got very little out of superior and experienced talent.
 
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