Fire Mooney
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After he didn't do anything to Mooney after that miserable season a few years ago I knew that he was in Queally's back pocket, and Mooney was untouchable until Queally says he is. Mooney needed to go after that season (the billboard season), but it didn't happen. Hardt is a puppet and Queally is the puppet master. It's like that in a bunch of universities so it's not unique to us.
He won't do it because he knows he can wrangle the terms & conditions when it is more advantageous for HIM, and not the school, fans, alums, students, etc. He's already made the dumb executive decision to move away from Nike to Adidas.
Also, not sure if this is the right space buuuuut..... Mooney is well-liked and respected among his fellow coaches and his players have his back. It may do more collateral damage for Richmond to fire him, seen as cowering to these calls, rather than having him leave on his own power for another landing spot. Who would want to come into a coaching environment when they have seen and heard what their fan base does to them?
I don't have a solution or answers to this conundrum but agree, frustrating near-decade of Spider hoops. Players gotta play, coaches gotta coach, ADs gotta...do something more than what they're doing now.
Our fanbase is tame. Coaches would be banging down our door to take the job.
I am in total agreement with your overall post, but technically that's not correct. We did win an 8/9 game as the 9 seed in 2016. We beat Fordham. Whoop! Whoop!
Now I'm done being pedantic. FIRE MOONEY
I think coaches would be jumping at the chance to be at a school that will pay them big bucks with no expectations. A school with a pretty storied basketball history that still backs its coach after a decade of failure. That sounds pretty cushy to me
Fire Mooney
There is a reason the other coaches in the A10 like him. It's not a reason to retain him.
Nobody wants him. I hope I'm proven wrong on that front.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
I say this in all honesty: If Hardt concludes that the time to fire Mooney was NOT after back-to-back 20-loss seasons OR after this season – the most-anticipated in school history that turned into a complete humiliation – then he will NEVER fire him. Ever.
Agree SF, that is crazy talk. The biggest detriment to a coach coming here is assurances that the admin, AD, and PQ have a commitment to winning. Again, that is my fear that we get rid of Mooney, don't fix any issues, Hardt or that lame search firm hire an uninspiring coach, and we are in this purgatory for 4 more years. If I had to bet, that is what happens. Or, we retain moon and just continue the purgatory.
I pointed this out when we hired him.....he's never fired a football or MBB coach in his career. Ever.
How do you know that's the case? Landis was terrible and stepped down to take an assistant position at SJSU. Good chance he was being shown the door and took an exit ramp.
Otherwise, he hasn't had a lot of opportunities. On the hoops side, Flannery retired (stayed at Bucknell in fundraising role) at 50 and Paulsen obviously moved up. On the football side, Gadd had cancer, and Kotulski was a one-year acting HC. I'll give you that Susan lasted nine years with a terrible record and should have been cut loose earlier. Hardt's replacement did so after the next season, and there was a lawsuit over it.
Thx that's ok. Hey now we've lost as the 8 seed so it's a push!
Dang u know too much about Hardt and Bucknell. Can you investigate any connections btw him and Dr. Nassar from his time at Michigan State?
You caught me...I am John Hardt. Been playing the long game.
We were a dumpster fire at the time of his hire, and it was just an observation in the context of "he ain't coming in to fire Mooney."
Sure, Landis could have been a forced resignation but that's certainly not how they worded the various press releases. He did go to a 1-A program. Usually when you cut bait with a coach, the wording is that of a "mutual decision" at best.
The case of Susan kind of speaks for itself.
I guess we'll find out if Mooney resigns to take a job as the Princeton Offence Coordinator at UCSB.
Sure, Landis could have been a forced resignation but that's certainly not how they worded the various press releases. He did go to a 1-A program. Usually when you cut bait with a coach, the wording is that of a "mutual decision" at best.
The case of Susan kind of speaks for itself.
I guess we'll find out if Mooney resigns to take a job as the Princeton Offence Coordinator at UCSB.
Oh come on I would never insult you like that. I was actually complimenting you if it didn't come across that way. You are extremely knowledgeable and great at research. And not at all pretentious. So I know you're not Hardt.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
Just look at his bio online. Winning championships in revenue sports does not seem to be high on his list of priorities.
Funds and Facilities are his proudest achievements.
The Three Stooges destroying our programs are freaking losers. Get the hell out of here. You are not welcome anymore.
Lol we deserve it. And I hate that we deserve it. But sometimes u just gotta laugh.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
Yes, that is my observation, I like the way you say it better though.
what a sorry team this is. I do blame Mooney but the players are soft, have no heart, and give up too easily, esp. Golden. Any of these seniors who can come back next year, please don’t. You’ve had 5 years to prove you can’t win. Just move on with your lives and spare us fans any more heartbreak.
As for Mooney, he needs to be fired or should resign out of embarrassment. I’m done following this program. Ridiculous!
As for Mooney, he needs to be fired or should resign out of embarrassment. I’m done following this program. Ridiculous!
So the guy who nearly died on the basketball court his freshman year gave up. Yeah, that doesn’t sound right to me.
Fire Mooney
There is no landing spot for Mooney unless it is a downgrade. No equal or upgrade program or conference would take him.
His long track record of mediocrity will not cause anyone with any sense to say "Mooney couldn't get much done at a mid-major, so let's move him up to a higher level. No doubt he will be much more successful here."
I’m sure Mooney would say that the feel of today’s game was very good. I never saw this interview in the past and honestly can’t believe that he actually said this. Actually second thought, I’m not surprised he said this at all, winning isn’t important here and I can’t support a program with that mindset.
3 of the last 4 MBB seasons have been unmitigated disasters from a long tenured coach with a mediocre record over 16 years. If not fired, it will just bold and underscore UR's total lack of commitment to successful athletics. As fans, we are sick of your "compete for championships at the highest level" BS. Prove it!!!
UR Administration, Mr. Hardt, could you please do what obviously beyond doubt needs to be done? End this nightmare. Start a new beginning. Chart a new course. FIRE Mooney!
No reasonable person can justify this continuing $h@t show.
UR Administration, Mr. Hardt, could you please do what obviously beyond doubt needs to be done? End this nightmare. Start a new beginning. Chart a new course. FIRE Mooney!
No reasonable person can justify this continuing $h@t show.
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