Agreed, all were good at different portions of their career. ANO should have been one of them, but just wouldn't engage.
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Yea the only thing I remember is as a freshman he played real well at home against VCU I
think we won in OT.
Hope he is triple teamed. I think we can score playing 2 on 4 no matter who our 4 are.
2011
Obvious that you never played the game.On the sidelines as a statistician has its merits,nevertheless.Keep up the fine-historical analytics.
Obvious that you never played the game.On the sidelines as a statistician has its merits,nevertheless.Keep up the fine-historical analytics.
2011
No surprise there.Take a look at other a-10 rosters for next year and do a comparison of lineups.Dont do OOC,only a-10.It won't be pretty.
No surprise there.Take a look at other a-10 rosters for next year and do a comparison of lineups.Dont do OOC,only a-10.It won't be pretty.
Because he has to and he knows it. Maybe not this year, but no later than next year.
oooh, my favorite recent recruit. Brachen's highlight video was insane! sign Wesson and Brachen and I'll sign the petition to give Mooney 5 more years, to heck with the rest of you!
I would have to say that DWill never quite met expectations as a big in our program, and part of that was due to injuries. Same with Geriot. Harper was not a major force until his senior year, as was the case with TA. And don't even get me started with ANO not living up to potential.
I don't really consider TJC or MW to be "inside" players. More like tall guys with good perimeter games. TJC can score from the block, but he is not really a force on the boards, or at the defensive end of the court. MW is a decent rebounder but more of a matador on defense.
I'm not sure we have ever really had a player at the 4 or 5 who was considered an impact player as a recruit in the 35 years I have been following Spider hoops. Perhaps ANO was the closest we had, and it just seemed like he never hit his stride as a force at both ends of the floor.
Most of the programs who are successful in the NCAAs have quality talent at the 4 and 5 positions. We seem to have "project players" at these positions who may develop by their senior year, or they might not. What I will say is that every time we have been knocked out of the NCAA's or the NIT, it has been by a team that has dominated us inside with quality and size at the 4 and 5 positions.
If we are going to have any sort of chance at success in the near future, we need to acquire a big who can make an immediate contribution at both ends of the floor. Still think we should be mining the overseas talent for big men, most if not all of the quality American bigs end up at Power 6 schools.
I don't really consider TJC or MW to be "inside" players. More like tall guys with good perimeter games. TJC can score from the block, but he is not really a force on the boards, or at the defensive end of the court. MW is a decent rebounder but more of a matador on defense.
I'm not sure we have ever really had a player at the 4 or 5 who was considered an impact player as a recruit in the 35 years I have been following Spider hoops. Perhaps ANO was the closest we had, and it just seemed like he never hit his stride as a force at both ends of the floor.
Most of the programs who are successful in the NCAAs have quality talent at the 4 and 5 positions. We seem to have "project players" at these positions who may develop by their senior year, or they might not. What I will say is that every time we have been knocked out of the NCAA's or the NIT, it has been by a team that has dominated us inside with quality and size at the 4 and 5 positions.
If we are going to have any sort of chance at success in the near future, we need to acquire a big who can make an immediate contribution at both ends of the floor. Still think we should be mining the overseas talent for big men, most if not all of the quality American bigs end up at Power 6 schools.
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Really good big guys don't grow on trees, I think they are tough to find, particularly below the P5 level. In the A10, there have been and are some good ones. I think Ryan Rhoomes for Fordham is a very good player, as is Larsen at GW. Shevon Thompson isn't super-skilled but obviously is a tremendous rebounder. I would put TJ Cline up there with any of those guys, and the fact that he was 3rd team all A10 where none of the rest but Rhoomes were, suggests others feel he's right there as well.
What were your expectations for DWill? Before he got hurt he was averaging 15 points, 7 rebounds, and 1 steal in 30 minutes a game.
My expectation for DWill was that he would be the second coming of Pete Woolfolk. Don't think he quite got there, and again in all fairness, injuries played a role in that. Also, look at Mo Allie Cox as an example of what DWill could have been. I also have to say that my perception of DWill is somewhat distorted in a negative way because of how he left the program.
Plus DWill was in my opinion, a below average defensive player, his lack of foot speed got him in foul trouble a lot, and kept him off the floor.
I would take DWill pre-injury over Cox any day. Cox is nowhere near as good on offense, DWill was great in the post.
The problem is that we can't take DWill pre-injury. He got hurt and it stunted his game. He also was not considered an impact big when he was recruited, which is really what everyone here thinks we need moving forward.
Plus, I don't remember DWill being that great in the post. He was frequently unable to shoot over the taller, longer defenders he played against down low. He was a monster on the offensive glass, though.
Plus, I don't remember DWill being that great in the post. He was frequently unable to shoot over the taller, longer defenders he played against down low. He was a monster on the offensive glass, though.
2011, you beat me to it. DWill was a much better all around player than Cox. No comparison! OSC
If I am ranking big men under Mooney. My ranking would go:
1. TJ
2. Geriot
3. Harp
4. Terry
5. Garrett
6. ANO
D-Will is somewhere on the list, but he is not getting ranked because the way he left and pretty much his entire senior year was a bust. Saw above where Geriot was kind of after thought with some of the other big men listed, he was much better than that in my estimation, even after his ACL injury, he was still an incredibly crafty, tough, player and we still ran a lot of offensive sets through him.
1. TJ
2. Geriot
3. Harp
4. Terry
5. Garrett
6. ANO
D-Will is somewhere on the list, but he is not getting ranked because the way he left and pretty much his entire senior year was a bust. Saw above where Geriot was kind of after thought with some of the other big men listed, he was much better than that in my estimation, even after his ACL injury, he was still an incredibly crafty, tough, player and we still ran a lot of offensive sets through him.
After sitting out his freshman year as a non qualifier, wonder if Cox's online criminal justice curriculum included "Dragnet"? Sargeant Friday was a good role model. OSC
Mike Winiecki, Jeff Pehl, and Bill Flye were very good in their senior years.
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I would maybe switch Darius and Alonzo, but like the list and would rate them roughly the same way.
I guess spots 7&8 are filled by Duinker and Big Luke.
Tbone, on Darrius and ANO. ANO was certainly a more complete player, especially offensively. Garrett was largely a one trick pony (it was a good trick though). I gave Garrett the edge because of the intensity he played the game. ANO also got a deduction for bolting to Pitt to sit the bench and in the process aiding the tank job for this year. It was a large deduction in my book.
Agreed, Geriot was pretty darn good pre ACL injury as well. But TJ is much more athletic than Gerior (pre and certainly post injury) that allows him to do so much more in the low post. Geriot as I liked to say was slower than he appeared out there he was able to use that slowness to his advantage.
Yeah, understood. ANO would have ended up as the all time blocks leader had he stayed for this past year. I was bummed that he left, I mostly hang that on the coaching staff, but he can get a ding simply by virtue of not having a 4th year to achieve his blocks record.
Very legitim
Its funny, I remember watching one of the A-10 tournament games in Boardwalk Hall and some Temple fans came over and chatted with our group. They all kind of laughed at Geriot at first because he looked so slow and was falling around out there but after a few plays they were like, "Man, that kid is very effective".
Its funny, I remember watching one of the A-10 tournament games in Boardwalk Hall and some Temple fans came over and chatted with our group. They all kind of laughed at Geriot at first because he looked so slow and was falling around out there but after a few plays they were like, "Man, that kid is very effective".
Captain, that's a nice story. One knew that Dan was a tough competitor when the big guy from Vanderbilt "accidentally" elbowed Dan in the nose. Dan bled profusely, but was back in the game within a short time. There was no backdown in Dan. Wish we had more with Dan's heart and competitive spirit. OSC
Doesn't work, leaping ability might help on rebounds, which we ignore, but won't work if their post man is backing you down. Exactly why we should have played PF more this year. Now he is still and unknown with zero experience.
I second that comment. They guy came back from a pretty bad knee injury and literally gave us all he had. He didn't always look pretty doing it but by the end of the day he found a way to score crafty baskets and wasn't afraid to put a body on an opposing big. I wish we had a team full of guys with Dan's or TJ passion. Gonsalvez is another guy who comes to mind as a very competitive player.
Not sure if he's an answer for us either. He was buried on the depth chart this year and apparently asked to be redshirted to preserve his final year of eligibility for a grad transfer. Signed with Wake under Bzdelik, and Liberty and JMU were his other offers.
I would keep Garrett above ANO just for his D in the '11 tourney. He did a good job limiting Ezeli (Vandy) and Faried (Morehead St) out in Denver
Checked out his video on the Wake site; believe Andre could be the missing link for us. OSC
http://m.wakeforestsports.com/m/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/andre_washington_787079.html
Did he redshirt in 2013 & 2016, so only played for 2 seasons?
However he did have a 206 Offensive rating against Kansas his first year playing.
No, he played his first three years before redshirting this season. Appeared in 17 games his freshman year, 29 his soph year (1 start), and 21 his junior year. Averaged 6 minutes, 1.7 points, and 1.2 boards per game for his career.Did he redshirt in 2013 & 2016, so only played for 2 seasons?
However he did have a 206 Offensive rating against Kansas his first year playing.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools...misc_non_event/washington-careerstats1415.pdf
