yeah, it's interesting and exciting that he appears to only be choosing between going pro and staying at Richmond. I had thought he was definitely going pro but his low percentage from 3 makes me think it's more 50-50. he's a better shooter than he showed last year. he might need another season to prove it.
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Just trying to get a handle on this but does option 2 close in 12 days? Option 3 sort of does in 42 days?I'm no NBA expert, but to me Burton's draft stock seems unlikely to change drastically regardless of what he chooses to do for next year. He's already been through the pre-draft process before and gotten the feedback, so he knows what he needs to work on. It seems there are 3 main options right now:
option 1 - he stays at UR, likely averages +/- 20 and 9 next year, and is basically back where he is today (but with a master's or working toward one and a year older)
option 2 - he transfers to a bigger name school, whether it's to chase a deeper tourney run, pull in some big time NIL money, or to prove himself to NBA scouts against tougher competition
option 3 - stay in the draft, looks like most mock drafts have him going undrafted, some show late 2nd round, start playing pro ball at some level
It's just going to come down to what he wants (thanks captain obvious). Is he ready to be done with school? - he would definitely have a place in the G League or overseas if he wanted one. Does he chase bigger college stardom by going the power school route (I'm sure there'd be no shortage of big time suitors lining up if he announced he's transferring)? Or does he come back to UR for one final run - trying to cement his place as one of the all time Spider greats?
My gut feeling is that he either stays here or goes pro. Might be that his decision will be influenced by how much help we get from the portal. Regardless of his choice he's been a great Spider and I wish him the best (unless he goes across town
I believe so.
His back is still recovering from carrying the team this past season. I hope he doesn't leave, but i would understand if he does. In our current situation, the grass is greener anywhere.I'm no NBA expert, but to me Burton's draft stock seems unlikely to change drastically regardless of what he chooses to do for next year. He's already been through the pre-draft process before and gotten the feedback, so he knows what he needs to work on. It seems there are 3 main options right now:
option 1 - he stays at UR, likely averages +/- 20 and 9 next year, and is basically back where he is today (but with a master's or working toward one and a year older)
option 2 - he transfers to a bigger name school, whether it's to chase a deeper tourney run, pull in some big time NIL money, or to prove himself to NBA scouts against tougher competition
option 3 - stay in the draft, looks like most mock drafts have him going undrafted, some show late 2nd round, start playing pro ball at some level
It's just going to come down to what he wants (thanks captain obvious). Is he ready to be done with school? - he would definitely have a place in the G League or overseas if he wanted one. Does he chase bigger college stardom by going the power school route (I'm sure there'd be no shortage of big time suitors lining up if he announced he's transferring)? Or does he come back to UR for one final run - trying to cement his place as one of the all time Spider greats?
My gut feeling is that he either stays here or goes pro. Might be that his decision will be influenced by how much help we get from the portal. Regardless of his choice he's been a great Spider and I wish him the best (unless he goes across town
I'm actually starting to get bullish on next season already, lol. not 2021-22 bullish, but I can see a path to a good season.
As the roster currently stands, we look to have a much better starting lineup than last year, at least offensively. I still don't understand what Mooney was thinking last year. Let's start two centers. Let's start two guys who aren't a threat to score much. Let's hope our freshman PG is a superstar that can somehow make this lineup work.
I agree this lineup looks like it would be substantially more effective than last years.
Well said. And, looking at your 3 options, it is really hard to find fault with any of them because everyone is different. What one guy might want is not always what another guy wants. Some guys stay like Grant and Jacob. Some guys leave early like Blake did. And, some guys transfer down like several of our guys have, and some guys transfer up like Khwan did. It just comes down to the player, and what he likes, loves, and dislikes.I'm no NBA expert, but to me Burton's draft stock seems unlikely to change drastically regardless of what he chooses to do for next year. He's already been through the pre-draft process before and gotten the feedback, so he knows what he needs to work on. It seems there are 3 main options right now:
option 1 - he stays at UR, likely averages +/- 20 and 9 next year, and is basically back where he is today (but with a master's or working toward one and a year older)
option 2 - he transfers to a bigger name school, whether it's to chase a deeper tourney run, pull in some big time NIL money, or to prove himself to NBA scouts against tougher competition
option 3 - stay in the draft, looks like most mock drafts have him going undrafted, some show late 2nd round, start playing pro ball at some level
It's just going to come down to what he wants (thanks captain obvious). Is he ready to be done with school? - he would definitely have a place in the G League or overseas if he wanted one. Does he chase bigger college stardom by going the power school route (I'm sure there'd be no shortage of big time suitors lining up if he announced he's transferring)? Or does he come back to UR for one final run - trying to cement his place as one of the all time Spider greats?
My gut feeling is that he either stays here or goes pro. Might be that his decision will be influenced by how much help we get from the portal. Regardless of his choice he's been a great Spider and I wish him the best (unless he goes across town
Well I am still expecting (ok, extrapolating...) that Tanner will finish this season 434 for 434 from 3. That should give him plenty of minutes...
Too early for me, but I’m sure by early November I’ll have convinced myself we’re a sweet sixteen level team.
I’ve learned not to get too excited as underachievement settles in too frequently. I thought with 3 portal gets plus decent returning players, we’d have a good season this past year. It didn’t take long for reality to sink in. So at this stage, I think it’s better to stay grounded and expect the expected on the Good Ship Mooney. More of the same?
Absolutely 100%. The team has failed to meet preseason expectations as selected by pundits for at least a decade. I don’t have any confidence this year will be different short of those pundits placing us super low in their rankings.
that's not allowed. but the board would suddenly become a lot more pro-Queally if it turns out that he becomes the NIL guy ... if he isn't already. Gilly did confirm in that interview that he got NIL money here.
"Wow, not sure the accuracy of all this, but looks like G league salary is only $40,500 , while two way contract got bumped up big to $449,155."
Yes,I think some would be willing to put down some money to make this happen but I think if you are doing that you would want to have a reasonable shot at achieving an NCAA bid with that investment. And with Mooney and the roster we have constructed, I just don't see a reasonable shot right now. We just had Tyler for a year and we weren't even a .500 team.
chicken and the egg. to land the heavy hitters in this new environment, you're competing with some schools offering substantial NIL.
I don't think we have 40 alums willing to do this. It would be a waste of 40K to pay him and just win 18 games next year. And that amount is too small. UR should either get alums together to form a collective and go all in on the NIL world, or do exactly what it is doing now - nothing! Unless you consider creating a marketplace on the website where people can pay Neal Quinn $390 to appear at their kids birthday party doing something.
There is a group of alumni discussing making multi year NIL contributions.
ok, that would actually be pretty great. maybe in a Darth Vader costume?
In my mind - to make this work and really work, meaning we pay a sizable amount to make a difference in recruiting and transfer portal. We need to raise 500K per year. That way we can pay 7-10 kids NIL money, with some earning more than others. And what happens when they make this contribution, but next year don't make any post-season tourney - you can't stop, we need the money to keep coming in.
