Absolutely pathetic garbage
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will have to consult with the Accounting Department, but maybe we start an "anticipated buyout" account with the next contract!
Cody will get his shot, but no way he leaves Memphis this early with Penny as head coach. Memphis will be a top a top 25 program for the next couple years with their recruiting and that will likely mean a bigger opportunity for Cody if he waits it out. No reason for him to leave now for a rebuilding Richmond where he can't come close to recruiting like Memphis does.
We all know where Hardt is looking if we need a new coach - Bucknell. But they are struggling a lot lately, so whats the next best thing - take the top Patriot league or Ivy League coach, since that is likely where we belong anyways - he will look to maybe Colgate, who has been good the last 2 years and their coaching staff is full of former Ivy League players. Or maybe a Yale James Jones who has been there a long time and has done well. I don't expect him to be too creative in the search.
But then again - this assumes Mooney is gone and we need a coach, which I don't think will be the case after this season.
I wouldn't be inspired with an Ivy or PL coach. really hope that isn't the direction we go.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
I wouldn't be too upset if we pulled the Harvard or maybe even Yale coach but those two guys are firmly entrenched in the Ivy League.
Not sure if Richmond dipped as the university I work at did, but Covid caused many business groups in the university to go with their hands out to the university as a whole/endowment fund for money to balance their budgets.
Without Covid, I would argue that if you can make a business argument for dipping into the endowment (probably an internal loan from the university/endowment fund at a fixed interest rate (lower than an expected rate of return in the market but higher than a private market loan) for the business group (in this case athletics)), then you could get the money if you couldn’t raise it from donors. However, Covid has definitely tightened those purse strings.
Don’t agree with your logic, but we do agree that the key issue is there isn’t anyone willing to end the contract. Inaction is definitely easier, but there is no doubt in my mind that UR is spending plenty of money and getting no return. UR could spend considerably less and get the same level of “competitiveness”. Regardless, I hope the players are able to rally and to get on a winning streak. Winning cures lots of ills.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
You still have to win the games with those nice players that get recruited. And Harvard has won two NCAA tourney games since we were there last
Our endowment (and many others) was up 40% last year. We’re drowning in money, half of it unrestricted.
Sorry, meant dipped into the endowment. The point was that pre-Covid I think there was more of an appetite to use that money. Now, I’m not so sure.
Likely we build some more beautiful buildings, argue over what to call them, and leave Athletics on auto pilot.
This is how buyouts are paid all over football and basketball. It’s not go fund me literally, but the AD goes to the boosters and they get the money and give it to the school. All the time. This is the AD’s job. To have relationships that enable that. And herein we have run down the issue. The AD doesn’t have these relationships and can’t tap into this money. Queely does and can, but Mooney is his guy. If he wanted Mooney gone he’d be gone.
The University is learning (on many fronts) that you really need to be careful who you get in bed with because you can’t take the money and not take the guy Who is giving it. Especially true with PQ whose “gifts” come with a lot attached it would seem. I’d argue that PQ has done a good bit more harm than good for UR across these many fronts. Money talks, but you shouldn’t always listen!
But if you want to know why Mooney is still here, it’s not complicated- - PQ wants him here and that begins and ends the discussion.
absolutely. but Harvard being Harvard actually competes for top recruits with the high majors despite no scholarships because they're Harvard. not because of Amaker in my opinion. so he has a talent advantage in his league every year. his track record before Harvard was nothing unspectacular. plus as someone said above, Amaker's in a great situation and isn't leaving it. certainly not for Richmond.
and Jones will never leave Yale.
Henderson is interesting, I don't think we'd let go of Mooney for another Princeton guy.
Donahue didn't do well at BC, but he's a good coach.
Langel is the only PL coach worth looking at.
This. We made the decision to hitch our wagon to Queally money and that drove some of our other long time bigger donors away (Ukrops most notably). So, now it looks like we have one mega donor who has outsized influence on our operations. And pretty clear, that the mega donor has his own agenda, and really as Melania Trump famously said, just doesn't care what the rest of us think about it.
This team should feel humiliated. That was one of the most pathetic efforts of the last 20 years of Spiders basketball. I don't honestly know why any of these guys came back for fifth or six years. They mostly act like they don't care if they win or lose. Their body language sucks. They are just going through the motions right along with their brain-dead coach.
This entire program is so incredibly stale and the people in charge are literally the only ones left who can't smell its rotting stench.
This entire program is so incredibly stale and the people in charge are literally the only ones left who can't smell its rotting stench.
I love how Mooney starts pressing with 5 minutes to go down 20+. You can tell the lack of effort last night by the fact St. Joe's broke the press so easy, and usually leading to a wide open 3.
Dr. Stephanie Pinder-Amaker is an Instructor in Psychology at the Harvard Medical School, and the founding director of McLean's Hospital College Mental Health Program, which serves students from over 200 institutions.
The Amakers are a package deal--always have been either at Seton Hall,Michigan or Harvard.Forget about Tommy.Forget about Jones,he is a Yalie lifer who is not a great recruiter and who gets to play Brown,Columbia,Dartmouth and Cornell each 2X per year.His schedule in the A10 would be against significantly stronger bball competition whose academic entrance requirements are infinitely more lenient when compared to Ivy requirements.
The Amakers are a package deal--always have been
His name continues to swirl around the opening at Georgetown, which makes sense because Harvard basketball coach Tommy…
I guess 0-2 in a pathetic A10 qualifies as absolutely pathetic garbage.
The only thing that can get this TEAM motivated is another billboard that’s embarrassing to daddy.
Goofball should have been fired 2 presidents ago.
Goofball should have been fired 2 presidents ago.
We can't even find someone to play. I guess we can't play anyone too tough. Gotta make sure to cover Mooney.
Well, finding someone to play would be a 32nd game and ban us from the NCAA Tournament, but I guess that would be ok…
If we can schedule a good team, do it. We can always claim to have covid issues near the last week of the regular season, but early enough that we could still play in the a10 tourney. Those games wouldn't be made up. Think outside the box!
Seriously, oh no, Richmond you played to many games so you are ineligble for the NCAA tourney. Jokes on them, we got Mooney, so we already know we are not eligible to play in the NCAA tourney.
How many top 100 recruits went to Harvard pre Amaker, and since he has been there.
I absolutely think he is a great recruiter, maybe just an OK X and O's guy. I recall a bunch of stories on Amaker bringing in recruits they never got before when he started. Of course that may have just been anecdotal like the vaccine does not prevent the spread and serious illness and death
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Great to turn on the radio this afternoon and hear Matt Josephs talking about VCU at large possibly. Richmond is yet again irrelevant thanks to leadership in the Robins Center. Thanks faculty, board members, Hardt, and Mooney for making this happen again!
VCU turns over its entire roster, significant injury issues, rebuilding year... and yet here they are yet again in the at large talk and here we are again January and have zero at large hopes. Some things never change.
The answer to why that keeps happening really isn’t that hard. The people running the ship just don’t care. Perfectly content with 16-18 wins and even if we get our asses kicked by vcu it’s fine because “we’re a better school” so we’re the real winners! We’re happy to beat our academic peers and have some friendly banter with them at the cocktail party. Who cares about vcu?
Might as well join the Patriot League if that’s all we care about. No use paying money to chase after a pipe dream.
When the season winds down, & we're watching other teams in March Madness, I'm just trying to figure what the lines of excuses will be. At that point, I don't think anyone can be ballsy enough to point to next year as "our year".
For the record, I hope I'm wrong on everything I just said, but history tells me that's doubtful.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
Every Patriot League team has made it to the NCAA's since we were last there besides one (Navy) so it stands to reason that if we were in the Patriot League we would have gotten a bid more recently or at least had a real shot at one.
This has been my point for a couple of years. It makes no sense for UR to spend the money it does to “compete” in the A10. No A10 titles, no NCAAs in sight. How much longer will it take for the administration to realize it takes more than just spending money?
Sure the A10 is better quality basketball, but UR has to have a commitment to win. That means holding the coach accountable and has nothing to do with the young men playing the game.
We have spent how millions to upgrade Robins, and now we have the Quealy Center, and you think we’re going
to drop down to a lower conference? That just Isn’t logical even for the most negative of fans.
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