JUST THE WAY HE IS -- so you don't want him to improve anything about his game? I sure want him to improve, and I want all of our players to improve their games. And I bet the players and the coaches want them to improve their games.
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JUST THE WAY HE IS -- so you don't want him to improve anything about his game? I sure want him to improve, and I want all of our players to improve their games. And I bet the players and the coaches want them to improve their games.
And he most likely will improve. You made a comment about the NBA. My point is I like the player Nick is and I will take his likely close to 20 ppg whether or not he adds things to his game that make him NBA worthy.
Sal instead of Cayo starting from day 1 would make feel encouraged team has a greater upside for success this year. And I too agree JJ getting the most minutes at the 2 for the entire year won't bode well for the Spiders.
And probably too optimistic (like every year) I guess, but don't see a 12th place finish in such a weak A10 this season. Pundits probably feel UR can score points, but will they be able to stop the opponent from scoring more?
And probably too optimistic (like every year) I guess, but don't see a 12th place finish in such a weak A10 this season. Pundits probably feel UR can score points, but will they be able to stop the opponent from scoring more?
South Jersey, that is a little more my fear, can we stop people from scoring? In that respect, I feel like Cayo will be a better defender than Sal this year anyway. If he can play well defensively and is a little better on offense, I think he is the guy at the 4. Sal will definitely be needed to contribute.
I am a little worried - Grant and Cayo seem a little bit foul prone, but that happens with young interior players. Would expect them to be able to avoid foul trouble this year since both got a ton of experience last year.
I am a little worried - Grant and Cayo seem a little bit foul prone, but that happens with young interior players. Would expect them to be able to avoid foul trouble this year since both got a ton of experience last year.
I do feel we need Cayo's defensive ability to help Grant, but in fairness to him, he did do well when he went to the line.
It was his attack of the basket that needed some work. If you remember Kevin Smith his freshman year, his touch was like
that of a cement truck. But he was athletic and strong and his offensive skills developed later.
It was his attack of the basket that needed some work. If you remember Kevin Smith his freshman year, his touch was like
that of a cement truck. But he was athletic and strong and his offensive skills developed later.
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23, agree with your post. Cayo is the better option for defense. Guess I'm hoping too much that Sal is the total package from day one. Kid was so tall in that team photo! He might be the key to Mooney keeping his job.
The A-10 has 14 teams and a lot of really good players. Anyone who thought the 12th rated preseason team was getting 3 players on the Top 25 countdown must have been smoking the good stuff. Sherod is a great scorer, but he needs to show more consistency and needs to improve his defense to be seen as Top 25 player.
Also he needs to make big plays. Why is Gilyard in the Top 25 and not Sherod. Gilyard makes big clutch plays. Sherod had some chances last year and largely didn't connect.
What I like about Sherod is he keeps getting better. He's not on the Top 25 right now, but I can see him squeaking into a 3rd team all A-10 team next year, which would slot him easily into the Top 25 next year.
Also he needs to make big plays. Why is Gilyard in the Top 25 and not Sherod. Gilyard makes big clutch plays. Sherod had some chances last year and largely didn't connect.
What I like about Sherod is he keeps getting better. He's not on the Top 25 right now, but I can see him squeaking into a 3rd team all A-10 team next year, which would slot him easily into the Top 25 next year.
Sal projects to me as a really good player, just not this year. His frame is so slight, he needs to hit both the weight room and D-hall with regularity.
did you think that about this guy?
seriously, I know Sal's not projected to be KD or he wouldn't be here. and he shouldn't have those expectations on him. but he's exactly that TYPE of player. same size coming out of HS. and similar style of play. if you want Sal to be some prototypical PF then you have the wrong guy. he's a SF with PF height. he's a perimeter shooter, with very good ball handling skills. like KD. he's ready to play.
I still start Nathan because I think he'll be much improved this year, but Sal will get substantial time.
seriously, I know Sal's not projected to be KD or he wouldn't be here. and he shouldn't have those expectations on him. but he's exactly that TYPE of player. same size coming out of HS. and similar style of play. if you want Sal to be some prototypical PF then you have the wrong guy. he's a SF with PF height. he's a perimeter shooter, with very good ball handling skills. like KD. he's ready to play.
I still start Nathan because I think he'll be much improved this year, but Sal will get substantial time.
Hold on I am not sure how my title coincides with me mistaking the former UNC Kenny Smith for our Kevin Smith due to fact I am
a huge ABC fan! Go Spiders!
Highly unlikely for I am still conscious and quite sane, but to profess even a slight appreciation of UNC athletics, I would be considered on my deathbed!
Dude, pass the dutchie on the left hand side bra.did you think that about this guy?
seriously, I know Sal's not projected to be KD or he wouldn't be here. and he shouldn't have those expectations on him. but he's exactly that TYPE of player. same size coming out of HS. and similar style of play. if you want Sal to be some prototypical PF then you have the wrong guy. he's a SF with PF height. he's a perimeter shooter, with very good ball handling skills. like KD. he's ready to play.
I still start Nathan because I think he'll be much improved this year, but Sal will get substantial time.
KD was the no. 2 player in the country coming out of high school. Yes, Sal has some skill but he is not a "3" or wing on the college level, much less beyond.
There are lots of really skinny tall kids who go onto play D-1 hoops. Only one of them became KD, who is pretty much anomoly with his build and skill set. But point taken, s-man, that he does have a similar build and game.
not by me, I didn't like a post that said the poster liked NS just the way he was. To me that is passive contentment and no desire or chance to improve. So I simply pointed out NS needed to improve his skill set if he wanted to go to the pros (which includes Europe, So America, etc) the response jumped it to the NBA
to reiterate ... of course not every tall thin guy is KD. but Sal was recruited by us and others for his length and his perimeter skills, not for his low post offensive presence. he has upside when he gets stronger, but he can absolutely play right now.
I hope Coach cuts down on playing time for Taylor I never understand his minutes and hope he plays TJ more minutes
and stops crazy offense defense substitutions . I would transfer I had Duinker as a son.
and stops crazy offense defense substitutions . I would transfer I had Duinker as a son.
Kendall starts off along with Kevin, Ryan, Dan Geriot and Darrius. We ready.
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Are we in some kind of time machine and back about 10 years or so? Might not be so bad from a W/L perspective....
I think Gonzo coming back instead of transferring is a huge key. Yes, he did take some ill advised shots at the end of the year, but he brings it every night and can round into a top A10 player I think. Welcome back David!!!
Seems Sherod felt as though he was in Buckingham's shadow and held back a little. I see Nick letting himself go more this year. Hopefully he has discovered the confidence to score inside or out as needed. As teams collapse on Grant, Nick will have the opportunity to shine.
He held back early, but then it became obvious he was a much better shooter and scoring option than Buck, so he got more looks and his numbers took off during A-10 play.
I can see where Sherod maybe felt a bit in Buck's shadow. Buck was a bit larger than life on the court and was so from Day 1. He didn't shy anyway from anyone from the moment he first stepped on the court.
Offensively, Sherod is a much more effective and efficient scorer than Buck, and I could see Sherod really emerging this year as that type of player. We are still going to miss greatly miss Buck's defense, hustle, rebounding, and just alpha dog presence on the court.
Offensively, Sherod is a much more effective and efficient scorer than Buck, and I could see Sherod really emerging this year as that type of player. We are still going to miss greatly miss Buck's defense, hustle, rebounding, and just alpha dog presence on the court.
It is easy to look at our team and say that we will really miss Buck's defense, rebounding, or whatever. However, one lesson I have learned is that team chemistry is far more important than we think it will be and it is also impossible to predict or objectively evaluate. I suspect that our "big-three" players will all function better without Buck or Khwan on the court, and the new pieces (like Gustafson and Wojick (sp?) may be far better fits for our traditional (semi-Princeton) offense, since they are both far better shooters than the guys who left. Anyone who presumes to predict how this team will do, before we actually get to see them playing in games, is playing games. Team chemistry will either emerge positively or it won't, but I am leaning on the optimistic side, for now....
I am doubting the chemist more than the chemicals.
we have less talent losing Khwan and Buck, but I don't know if we'd be good enough to win if they came back. playing our best 5 players they'd both start again and I think it still wouldn't work. I think we can be better this year even though we lose that talent, if that makes sense.
The addition by subtraction argument really only works if the departed are replaced with players who directly are better or indirectly make the starting 5 better. I’m not sure we’ll end up with two guys who are defensively better but may end up better through a combination of size and 3pt shooting that were otherwise missing.
I see a number if posts discussing how we will be better (or not), but what i think they seem to be missing is that NS, GG and JG will all be better this year than last. This is not about addition by subtraction or an other BS like that it about maturation. I think their improvement alone more than offsets what we lose.
This might be the case but who is our Alpha Dog. That was Buck. Sherod will never be an Alpha Dog, I haven't see it out of Gilly or Grant yet.
Makes a lot of sense. Khwan might be talented, but he is not a good shooter, and his only position is PG, which does not fit for our team because we have one better. Buck is a great athlete and has some talent, but is not a great shooter or ball handler, which is likely a big reason why BCS schools and probably numerous mid majors showed no interest in him.
These guys are good to have on your team as 15 minute role players, but they have too many holes in their games to be on the floor for much longer than that. With their size, you have to be able to consistently make outside shots and draw the defense out. They did just the opposite, teams played off of them, clogged the lane, and dared them to shoot. That is never a recipe for success.
Wasn’t Buck the Virginia HS 5A player of the year his junior year? I recognize there’s a sizeable difference between high school and college but don’t think that he had a lot of holes in his game. He’s an acceptable outside shooter and ballhandler but not as good as Jake or Nick respectively. But he was a better defender and rebounder than either, so he was perhaps utilitarian.
I think he should be a glue guy in our system but instead was forced into a primary role and playing often as a very undersized PF. That’s not a recipe for success but if he comes back this year as SG he does a lot of things well enough that I’d still want him on the team.
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