I was responding to Longtimes post. I got your /s.
Next time I'll use a double slash s to make its clear for all those that bet on Richmond OOC away games 😀.
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Next time I'll use a double slash s to make its clear for all those that bet on Richmond OOC away games 😀.
I am ready to try:
Hunt
GW3
AP/Dusan
Robinson
Walz/Beagle
Soulis didn't look great vs Bucknell, but it will take a bit of time to get his sea legs - and I think we need to keep putting him out there for 5-10 minutes per game.
Really need to see GW3 get some minutes, can't believe the disparity between Mooney's hype + h.s. ranking vs his ability at this level can be such a chasm.
I think Walz will be fine - just needs to again stop thinking so much and play.
Roche has looked solid - but really we need Glou to be a taller version of him. Glou has not looked great, but again he has been in moth balls for two years - only playing garbage time. Like Soulis need to keep running Glou out to get his reps and hopefully be a postive player for us.
Still like Tyne, but he is not doing enough to justify the deficiency in length on defense when paired with Hunt.
Somehow, Mooney has all these guys - other than Hunt - really playing below their historical type production. Hopefully they get more comfortable and a couple become scorers or it could get really ugly.
Robinson - we need someone in the frontcourt besides Beagle that has some athleticism.
Hunt
GW3
AP/Dusan
Robinson
Walz/Beagle
Soulis didn't look great vs Bucknell, but it will take a bit of time to get his sea legs - and I think we need to keep putting him out there for 5-10 minutes per game.
Really need to see GW3 get some minutes, can't believe the disparity between Mooney's hype + h.s. ranking vs his ability at this level can be such a chasm.
I think Walz will be fine - just needs to again stop thinking so much and play.
Roche has looked solid - but really we need Glou to be a taller version of him. Glou has not looked great, but again he has been in moth balls for two years - only playing garbage time. Like Soulis need to keep running Glou out to get his reps and hopefully be a postive player for us.
Still like Tyne, but he is not doing enough to justify the deficiency in length on defense when paired with Hunt.
Somehow, Mooney has all these guys - other than Hunt - really playing below their historical type production. Hopefully they get more comfortable and a couple become scorers or it could get really ugly.
Robinson - we need someone in the frontcourt besides Beagle that has some athleticism.
8legs1dream
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welcome back from the bunker VT!! All is well out here in the hellscape, thanks for visiting.
Fire Bennett, Extend Mooney for life
Fire Bennett, Extend Mooney for life
I am concerned the most about Tanner and Tyne. Most of the others are shooters who are just not making shots right now. Tanner has the 3rd most minutes, but has very little to show for it, and has only 1 assist with 6 turnovers. Tyne has the 2nd most minutes, is 4-16 from 3, and has 3 assists with 7 turnovers. Both are starting and getting good minutes, but just not making a positive impact right now.
According to Evan Miya, Tyne has the 3rd worst offensive performance rating (OBPR) of all A10 players who have played at least 50 possessions this season.
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8legs1dream
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More troubling, under those same metrics our first player does not appear until #77, Beagle.According to Evan Miya, Tyne has the 3rd worst offensive performance rating (OBPR) of all A10 players who have played at least 50 possessions this season.
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Many other teams have 2-3 players in the top 20.
Tyne's been atrocious. He can dribble, but it seems to be Jason Nelson-level aimless. He can handle, but can't seem to run an offense. He can get open, but can't shoot. He can drive, but doesn't finish.According to Evan Miya, Tyne has the 3rd worst offensive performance rating (OBPR) of all A10 players who have played at least 50 possessions this season.
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I was high on him, but what I've seen this year has been really discouraging. He just does not seem to be able to create offense for anyone on the floor. I am ready for B. Artis to get the lion's share of minutes there for a few games.
And his feet are never square to the basket on his shot, so I don't have a lot of faith that his shooting percentages will improve.
I'm not liking any lineup right now, lol.
it's not like anyone is shooting well from outside. so I'm thinking try some old school 1999 Spurs. ask Beagle and Walz to dominate the glass and take high percentage shots. maybe switch Roche for Tyne to add shooting ... but then there's so little ball handling.
we are getting torched from 3, I don't think playing together 2 players who can't handle switches and both have zero ability to guard the perimeter will help. Does zero to solve 3 point shooting on offense or improve spacing either.
? we're not getting torched from 3. well Charlotte game we were. but we lost to two teams who shot under 30% from 3.
our offensive problems are larger than our defensive right now. I'm looking to be more efficient offensively.
It was Marist who torched us, but the last two teams only went 5-24 and 8-27 against us from 3.
fair, I knew Charlotte was horrific shooting the ball, but not from a lack of open looks. They just suck, only not as badly as UR.
We do already have issues guarding the perimeter, was my ultimate point, poorly stated. Fly bys, shooters in the corner open nonstop, perimeter scrambling that leads to other types of open shots. Putting Walz and Beagle out there to play the switching man being employed at present won't help IMO. Maybe playing some zone with them where they could at least both be near the hoop to dominate the glass. I don't know. But it would be a first for that to happen, so I'm not holding my breath.
We do already have issues guarding the perimeter, was my ultimate point, poorly stated. Fly bys, shooters in the corner open nonstop, perimeter scrambling that leads to other types of open shots. Putting Walz and Beagle out there to play the switching man being employed at present won't help IMO. Maybe playing some zone with them where they could at least both be near the hoop to dominate the glass. I don't know. But it would be a first for that to happen, so I'm not holding my breath.
If I can’t get eyes on the redshirts, here’s my five:
Beagle
Neskovic
AP
Hunt
B. Artis
There are problems at three of those spots for sure. I think AP is gonna come around. Beagle has to get better on D and hold onto the ball. Not sure what to think about B. Artis so that could easily go to another bigger guy like Roche until someone seriously presses us.
Beagle
Neskovic
AP
Hunt
B. Artis
There are problems at three of those spots for sure. I think AP is gonna come around. Beagle has to get better on D and hold onto the ball. Not sure what to think about B. Artis so that could easily go to another bigger guy like Roche until someone seriously presses us.
So, we are a mess right now on offense. We have a bunch of guys who really don't know the system very well and some guys that don't really fit the system very well (with some overlap of the groups) and add some guys that probably know it and fit it, but simply are not playing well right now. I think the reason we go so bad in these circumstances over the years is that Moon is so committed to the system and especially the no mistakes aspect of it that guys aren't really looking to make plays, they are looking to run the offense "correctly" and not turn it over etc. We need guys to play freer and looser. id also press some with tyne. white, hunt and tanner on thr flor to tr and get some easy offense in transtion etc. No saying there is any great hope, but id try!
Must of been against our defense
I'm hopeful AP can be great but I can't move him into the starting lineup when he's shooting 18% from 3, 20% from 2, and 50% from the line! plus the dumb technical. let him have a great game off the bench first please. it'll happen.
I'm not as down on Tanner as some of you. he should be more aggressive shooting from outside. he needs to listen to the analytics and stop with the midrange pullups. but I disagree with the talk that his defense is so bad. he's defending. plus he and Roche are the only 2 guys hitting a respectable percentage from 3.
I'm not as down on Tanner as some of you. he should be more aggressive shooting from outside. he needs to listen to the analytics and stop with the midrange pullups. but I disagree with the talk that his defense is so bad. he's defending. plus he and Roche are the only 2 guys hitting a respectable percentage from 3.
I also think Tanner's defense has been fine ( he had 5 steals last game and has not been getting beat much), but his offense has been non existent. He has to impact the game more if he is gonna get the minutes he is getting. Against D1 teams, he is 2-13 ( 1-5 from 3). He played 37 minutes last game, scored 2 points and didn't even get to the line. And that is against Bucknell and not even one of the better A-10 teams. I would love for him to find something and turn things around, but it looks like we have another Noyes here.
Yep, Tanner is giving me some Noyes vibes too. You can't play 37 minutes in a game and score 2 points.
And not even get to the line. His last 2 games: 60 minutes, 1-10 FG ( 1-4 from 3). 0-0 FT and only 1 total assist. Pretty much 0 positive impact offensively in those 60 minutes.
yeah, but replacing him with a guy who played 27 minutes and scored 0 doesn't seem like much of an upgrade.
I realize we don't currently have a lot of choices.
I am in the camp that we should try something different in terms of line-ups. I get that our coaching staff sees these guys every day in practice, but there is a difference in how players perform in real game situations vs. practice. A player can make a bunch of 3's in practice all they want, but if they aren't producing even remotely close to that level during the game then it doesn't really matter what they did in practice, and we should give another person an opportunity to see what they can do.
Yes, agree with both here. I was thinking the same - he is Noyes all over again. Not looking for his offense at all, except when he has to and it ends bad. If he is the shooter we heard about preseason, he needs to be shot ready. Classic guy that is just looking for the next pass as soon as the ball hits his hands.
Giving my completely honest assessment from what I have seen the past 4 games, I think we only have 2 A10 caliber level players on this roster right now. Hunt, who is an A10 level starter, and Beagle who is an A10 level role player. It's a small sample size of 4 games, but that is how I see things are right now. So might as well try something different in terms of player rotations, different line-ups during the game, and see if that helps bring out player abilities more.
I've held off on being too critical, but I agree in thinking that we have about 2.5 guys who are currently A10 caliber on this roster. I think we might look back and view this as the least talented Richmond roster in the last decade. If this season continues as poorly as it has started off, I think we're going to be looking at a lot of roster turnover and the need to add another 4-5 guys from the portal. Not a spot you want to be in when the portal is going to be about 20% smaller than the last few years.
How many players are eligible to return next season? It is hard to keep track…
Once this season is over, here's the roster breakdown (not including walk-ons). Hunt, Roche, Neskovic, and B. Artis are currently in their final year of eligibility:
1 more year of eligibility: Walz, Beagle, Roumoglou
2 more years of eligbility: Tanner, Tyne, GW3
3 more years of eligibility: Soulis
4 more years of eligibility: Robinson, McGlothin, Argabright, Richardson, Harper.
So if nobody transfers out, we will have 12 scholarship players going into next season. I'll be shocked if we don't have at least 1 or two guys transfer out.
Keep in mind that the scholarship/roster limit size rules are changing next season, and if we opt into the revenue sharing agreement, our roster allowance will change from 13 scholarships + a few walk-ons to 15 total players, all of which could be scholarshipped or not. At least I believe that's how it will work.
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Yep. I think we thought going into this season that we had our deepest roster ever. But as it now plays out, I think Mooney got us a bunch of A-10 level bench players and we were all drinking so Kool Aid. I wonder where Mr. Kool Aid, 80sfan has been. He was telling us how awesome all of these guys were non-stop.
I said going in Hunt was our best player, we were in trouble because while Hunt is a very good player for the A-10, if he was our best player, we weren't going to be that good. Turns out Hunt is not just our best player but he appears to be on a different level than our other players and that is a huge problem.
