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What part of this are you not reading correctly?

“It was more of getting back home. I got a little homesick,” said Fore, a 6-foot guard from Huntsville, Ala. “One of the biggest reasons was I felt like I did all I could do, or whatever, for the team and I’d just feel more comfortable if I got closer to home and focused more on my wants and needs.

“I love the coaches and the players (at Richmond). I didn’t have any bad vibe towards the players or the coaches.”
Odd that his "homesickness" developed at the same time that he is eligible to be a grad transfer :). Guess we were lucky that he didn't get homesick in years 1-4 :D
 
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you guys are funny. Khwan comes right out and explains his move, but you don't believe what he says because it doesn't fit your narrative. "yeah he said that, but that's not what he means. he's just too classy to say it."
lol.

let's see what happens with Buck. Mooney hasn't lost the team if he hasn't lost Buck.
 
The tone of Buck's Twitter page makes it sound like he is going through a tough time. I try to see the positive but I'm beginning to worry. If everything was roses the tweets would be over the top positive cause that's what team leaders do....and he isn't.
 
Maybe it's gonna take a player coming out and saying that the reason he left is because Mooney is a poor coach. I get that these guys want to be respectful but if it was me I would say exactly why I was leaving.
 
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Maybe it's gonna take a player coming out and saying that the reason he left is because Mooney is a poor coach. I get that these guys want to be respectful but if it was me I would say exactly why I was leaving.
hard for you to believe, but maybe Khwan is saying exactly why he's leaving.
 
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hard for you to believe, but maybe Khwan is saying exactly why he's leaving.
What is he even saying though, really?

In two weeks he has gone from wanting to play in Europe to being homesick and wanting to play near Alabama, yet also considering Ohio State and East Carolina, both of which are FARTHER AWAY from Huntsville than Richmond is. I mean come on, if you can't read the tea leaves here, I can't help you.
 
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These guys are leaving because they have lost faith and trust in CM. They are too classy to come right out and say it, but for KF it is clear to me that he would rather leave a program where he would be the senior leader, get something approaching 40 minutes per game, etc. That he would even be considering ECU speaks volumes.

Anywhere but UR, anyone but Mooney is what it says.
 
We should absolutely fire Mooney if Buck ends up leaving. Only problem though is it is pretty late to get a quality coach.
 
This Khwan business is another Rorschach test. People will go to great lengths to rationalize anything and everything to agree with their preconceived notions. It is human nature.
 
Khwan loves UR. He's not going to say/do anything publicly to hurt the school.
He is a very humble young man and being 12-14 hours from home and his roots for 4 years could make someone a little homesick especially if you are graduating. But seeing ECU on that list threw me off somewhat for that is 10-12 hours away and not much closer.
 
To be fair, the tweet said he plans to visit Tennessee, UAB and ETSU. It said Ohio St and ECU have shown interest, not that he's interested in them or visiting them.

And if he ends up at ETSU or UAB it will be pretty obvious that "going to the NCAA tournament" was not his motivation for leaving.
 
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And if he ends up at ETSU or UAB it will be pretty obvious that "going to the NCAA tournament" was not his motivation for leaving.
even visiting ETSU and UAB shows that the tournament isn't the reason. but keep trying to read those tea leave, Eight.
 
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even visiting ETSU and UAB shows that the tournament isn't the reason. but keep trying to read those tea leave, Eight.
If it makes you feel better to know that our senior leader is considering going to ETSU to try to play point guard for a team that already has one so that he can somehow impress foreign scouts, more power to you.
 
If it makes you feel better to know that our senior leader is considering going to ETSU to try to play point guard for a team that already has one so that he can somehow impress foreign scouts, more power to you.

I don't see any reason to believe that Khwan was lying about his motivation in his interview. He wants to play his last year closer to home, and his actions seem to back up his words so far. Impressing foreign scouts and making the NCAAs were goals guessed by message board posters.
 
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closer to home makes more sense than expecting to make the tournament at ETSU though, doesn't it?
 
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ETSU went 25-9 and lost in the conference tournament championship game. It also has one of the most-talked-about coaches at that level in the country, Steve Forbes. Yes, it graduated a lot of guys but has some good returning talent and most likely still has a better chance to make the NCAAs next year than we do.
 
For the record, I would support a hard look at Mooney as well if Buck left. The main reason I wish for Mooney to stay is because I really like the core of the team as it currently stands. If that erodes, so to does my continued support of keeping Mooney as coach.

But I would also place blame on Buck as well, as previously stated.
 
Believe that Buck’s cognitive dissonance is more rooted in his girl friend’s move.
 
In the business world, the number one reason people leave a job/company is because they have a poor manager. More money is usually a distant second.

It is clear to me that despite all the talk about KF and DMB wanting to go somewhere else because they want to win/go to the NCAA tourney, CM is the "manager" of the UR basketball organization, and he has a majority of the culpability for the departure of these two players (assuming DMB actually leaves). I would say the major reason for them leaving is they no longer believe in or trust Chris Mooney.

You don't have to be an insider to see that Mooney has "lost the locker room" when it comes to this team. Would have to say that if Buck actually leaves, we are are at tremendous risk to lose NS, JG, and/or GG.

Not a great time to be a Spider. If Buck leaves, Mooney HAS to go. In fact, if we sack CM, and make a decisive hire for a quality coach, we may even be able to pull KF and DMB back since neither has committed to another program yet.
I agree with everything you said, but the time frame in the last paragraph seems like an impossibility to achieve.

If Buck were to leave, I would think the Mooney apologists would even throw the towel in at the point...then again, maybe it would take even more.
 
I agree with everything you said, but the time frame in the last paragraph seems like an impossibility to achieve.

If Buck were to leave, I would think the Mooney apologists would even throw the towel in at the point...then again, maybe it would take even more.
Think Buck’s situation has nothing at all to do with Chris Mooney or the losing record last season.
 
I would say it is time for an adult to get involved with Buck and explain the situation he is in now and for the rest of his life. Maybe Beckwith, Newman, Kenny Atkinson, someone who has been through some life experiences that could show him the value of Richmond - not the basketball team - for the rest of his life. He's got 2 more years to play college basketball but he has the rest of his life to benefit from college. The comparison of ETSU and Richmond would seem like a pretty easy one to make. Someone needs to take charge here because this would be a bad decision on his part.
 
ETSU went 25-9 and lost in the conference tournament championship game. It also has one of the most-talked-about coaches at that level in the country, Steve Forbes. Yes, it graduated a lot of guys but has some good returning talent and most likely still has a better chance to make the NCAAs next year than we do.
better chance maybe, but far from a guarantee.
there are other places he'd focus on if the tournament was the priority.
 
ETSU went 25-9 and lost in the conference tournament championship game. It also has one of the most-talked-about coaches at that level in the country, Steve Forbes. Yes, it graduated a lot of guys but has some good returning talent and most likely still has a better chance to make the NCAAs next year than we do.

The fact they went 25-9 and didn't even sniff the NIT should be a clear sign that they are not a good destination if you want to play in the post season. There is no way that team will be getting an at large next year to the NCAAs or NIT.
 
Does anyone other than the individuals involve really 'know'? Frankly it doesn't really matter, I hate to lose players but these are young men doing what they feel is right for them. All that matters to me is what the team's record is next year, no excuses, no young team rationale, no lost players excuse, nothing, it's time to put up.
 
The girlfriend quit the team after last year and hasn’t been at Richmond all year. Why would Buck all of a sudden want to leave because of her? I messaged her on tweeter last night after seeing posts between her and Khwan and she said she does have any ties to men’s team nor did she shed any truth to the Buckingham rumors. She’s not even on campus at ETSU yet. I think we are now all reaching and trying to make this about something it clearly is not about.
 
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These guys are leaving because they have lost faith and trust in CM. They are too classy to come right out and say it, but for KF it is clear to me that he would rather leave a program where he would be the senior leader, get something approaching 40 minutes per game, etc. That he would even be considering ECU speaks volumes.

Anywhere but UR, anyone but Mooney is what it says.

Khwan would not have played anywhere close to 40 minutes a game next year because our days of playing 4 guys 6'4 or smaller 35+ minutes a game are over. We will be taller next year, no matter who stays and who leaves.

Maybe he is leaving because as a senior he didn't want to play 10-15 minutes a game and be Jacob's backup, and instead feels he could get at least the same if not more playing time elsewhere, and as a bonus be closer to home.

If Mooney were as bad as some are saying and the players were upset with the coaching they were getting, certainly we would have heard something from someone by now. But, those with an agenda, keep firing away if that makes you happy. Meanwhile, I will continue to be excited about what next year looks like. Jacob, Nick, and Grant are as good as or better than any other A-10 team's top 3, and Buck would have made it a heck of a top 4, and would have been smart to not break rules and enjoy the ride the next 2 years.

I still think our chance of dancing next year, and especially in 2 years is as good as or better than any other A-10 team. Who in the A-10 is clearly better than us right now?
 
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If Buck were dismissed, I wonder, as I posted earlier, if this were related to the one game suspension. I knew something other than wanting to leave was brewing because of all the "hang in there" and "praying for you" posts on his twitter.
 
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Dismissed.

This is on Buck.

Even if the entire AD narrative on this is true, Mooney failed. Must get your best players to value the team and their eligibility over whatever trouble could get them booted. Mooney recruited him, Mooney coached him and apparently Buck didn't care enough about that opportunity to value it. CM shares blame for that.
 
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