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Transfer Thread

I am not writing off the current freshman class, but spiderman I think many of the fans like me have been playing this game for years now and have moved on to "show me the production". Yes, of the true freshman Gilyard was very good. Cayo looks to have potential. The other guys got no experience, so expectations have dropped. If Tomas, Ford, and Schneider get on the court this year, have to feel there will be a large learning curve.
Bring in a couple of known D1 producing grad transfers, and if the sophomore's to be can beat them out then so be it.
fair enough.
there should be less of a learning curve for the red shirt freshmen than a regular freshman, though. they haven't just been sitting around.
 
I don't want bodies. I want good players just like you. I'd love 13 of them. but even if we have 13 good players, 4-5 won't play. too many people here will point to the 4-5 that aren't playing and say they're recruiting misses. too many people write off the current freshmen class without giving them a chance.

I personally am hoping that at least one of the redshirts can make an impact this year. If I had money, I would put it on Tomas. I think Phoenix is still a year away (if that) and Bryce plays the same position that we have the most depth (wing). If Bryce can handle the ball though, that would improve his playing chances because of Khwan's departure.
 
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I personally am hoping that at least one of the redshirts can make an impact this year. If I had money, I would put it on Tomas. I think Phoenix is still a year away (if that) and Bryce plays the same position that we have the most depth (wing). If Bryce can handle the ball though, that would improve his playing chances because of Khwan's departure.

Would not be surprised to see all of Bryce, Thomas and Ford get playing time at the beginning of the season as the lineups are refined. By the end of the season only one of them will likely be part of the rotation. I think the size of Ford and Thomas (6'7 / 6'8, 210+) gives them an advantage for time over Bryce (6'5, 175) since they have the size of forwards and we have a ton of unclaimed time at the 4 (and backup 5). Bryce is slightly taller than Buck, but he is ~40lbs less than Buck so I think he will only be a 2/3, and we are pretty full there already.
 
Andrew Wallace on Twitter posted this an hour ago: “One of my sources that informed me about Khwan Fore has told me that #OneRichmond hoops star De'Monte Buckingham did in fact ask for his release from the program. Coach Mooney then asked him to think on it, which is a process I'm told Buck is still going through.”

Then Andrew posted this 5 minutes later:

“For the record, I still expect Buck to stay at UR and have been told by a few sources that they expect him to stay.”
 
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Well, the rumors definitely have been out there. I still will be very surprised if he leaves, but this explains why we are not really recruiting anyone too hard right now. We're too busy recruiting our own guys, apparently.
 
Andrew Wallace on Twitter posted this an hour ago: “One of my sources that informed me about Khwan Fore has told me that #OneRichmond hoops star De'Monte Buckingham did in fact ask for his release from the program. Coach Mooney then asked him to think on it, which is a process I'm told Buck is still going through.”

Then Andrew posted this 5 minutes later:

“For the record, I still expect Buck to stay at UR and have been told by a few sources that they expect him to stay.”

Mooney has a lot of 'splaining to do if he leaves. How can anyone support this bum of a coach if this happens?
 
I watched scrimmage on Friday and Tomas and Bryce combined for about 15 three point attempts. They were mostly open looks. They were 1 for 15. They both played decent defense and both handled the ball well with Bryce the better. I watched Bryce some last year and was never convinced he is the shooter that he is advertised as being.
During same scrimmage there was only one dunk and nobody shot free throws. I have attended a fair amount of practices this year and in the past and have never witnessed any free throw practice or drill. Maybe I just picked the wrong days.
 
I watched scrimmage on Friday and Tomas and Bryce combined for about 15 three point attempts. They were mostly open looks. They were 1 for 15. They both played decent defense and both handled the ball well with Bryce the better. I watched Bryce some last year and was never convinced he is the shooter that he is advertised as being.
During same scrimmage there was only one dunk and nobody shot free throws. I have attended a fair amount of practices this year and in the past and have never witnessed any free throw practice or drill. Maybe I just picked the wrong days.
I think you did. They don't normally practice free throws in days that end in Y.
 
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Andrew Wallace continues to be a breath of fresh air in the Richmond area sports media world. Burton is too busy up VCU's rear and JOC only writes puff pieces on Richmond. Nice to have someone local who is actually doing some sports journalism.

Endorse. It's about time the local media actually did some reporting that involved more than press conference questions. Wallace's explanation of his sourcing here is also key. He says it's someone who told him about Khwan, which increases credibility, but he doesn't pretend the source is infallible. I believe the report to be accurate, but glad he gave details on how he came upon the info.
 
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Endorse. It's about time the local media actually did some reporting that involved more than press conference questions. Wallace's explanation of his sourcing here is also key. He says it's someone who told him about Khwan, which increases credibility, but he doesn't pretend the source is infallible. I believe the report to be accurate, but glad he gave details on how he came upon the info.
The report is exactly my understanding of what was (is currently) going on between Buck and Mooney, so I see it as highly accurate.

If anything comes of this it is hopefully Buck lit a little fire under Mooney's rear end to win now. It is plainly clear how much Buck wants to win and how much this season frustrated him.
 
of course we want the last spots filled with the best players possible. that's great for the program.

but it's kind of a no win situation for Mooney in your eyes, isn't it? no matter what ... 8-9 guys are going to play significant minutes. so 4-5 guys are going to be on the bench most nights. won't matter if they're good. they'll be considered recruiting misses.
It takes a minimum of 10 to practice. Teams generally play like they practice. The better the collective 10 are the better they practice. 12 and 20 is what you get when you have 4 or 5 guys that can contribute. A good recruiting class every 3 years doesn't work.
 
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I watched Bryce some last year and was never convinced he is the shooter that he is advertised as being.
I don't think Bryce was ever sold as being some lights out shooter. he shot 26% from 3 senior year and 63% from the foul line. he's a do-a-little-of-everything guy. Pretty athletic, can handle, pass & rebound.

Tomas is supposedly a shooter.
 
I don't think Bryce was ever sold as being some lights out shooter. he shot 26% from 3 senior year and 63% from the foul line. he's a do-a-little-of-everything guy. Pretty athletic, can handle, pass & rebound.

Tomas is supposedly a shooter.
Agree with your statement, but so far there has been no credible evidence that Tomas is a shooter either. Granted it was 1 showing, but what I saw from Tomas in practice did not make me conclude that he is a lights out shooter.
 
Is 1-15 good?

I remember last year many a report on how good the new guys looked, and then we figured out they looked good because they were going against our players. Now they look bad against our players and Buck may transfer. Oh Boy.

It's A Great Time To Be A Spider!!!!
 
Come on guys. You can't use a sample size of one game or one practice to try and credit or discredit a player. That's absurd.

I'm a terrible basketball player, I once made 10 straight 3's going from a shootaround to a pickup game and would never claim to be able to make two in a row or even have any confidence in making one even if I was wide open. 15 shots from two guys in one practice really doesn't mean anything.
 
I will say this, knowing what the reaction will be:

If you want to call yourself a leader, a brother, family, etc., --which De'Monte has -- you don't quit and transfer because the team had one bad year. Unlike Paul, or Kadeem, or Kovien, or Diekvoss, or others who rarely saw the floor and would need to transfer to even play, De'Monte plays all the time, is in line to be a captain of the team, and is and has been an integral part of the team since Day 1. He and Nick by all accounts took leadership of the team after TJ and ShawnDre graduated. He has the ability and opportunity to be the change he wishes to experience. To ask for a release in this situation is straight-up quitting in my book. If he does leave, that is how I will always view him.
 
I understand what you're staying but that's too harsh in my book. we accept transfers here with open arms (like TJ) without judging them for their reasons for transferring. it can't be both ways.
 
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I understand what you're staying but that's too harsh in my book. we accept transfers here with open arms (like TJ) without judging them for their reasons for transferring. it can't be both ways.

Sure, but TJ's coach left Niagara (I'm pretty sure that's accurate). Never blame a kid for leaving under that circumstance.
 
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what if you've been a guard that has to play 3,4,5 at times?
 
Well, the rumors definitely have been out there. I still will be very surprised if he leaves, but this explains why we are not really recruiting anyone too hard right now. We're too busy recruiting our own guys, apparently.
Is it time to switch shoes? I sorta like adidas. :)
 
I will say this, knowing what the reaction will be:

If you want to call yourself a leader, a brother, family, etc., --which De'Monte has -- you don't quit and transfer because the team had one bad year. Unlike Paul, or Kadeem, or Kovien, or Diekvoss, or others who rarely saw the floor and would need to transfer to even play, De'Monte plays all the time, is in line to be a captain of the team, and is and has been an integral part of the team since Day 1. He and Nick by all accounts took leadership of the team after TJ and ShawnDre graduated. He has the ability and opportunity to be the change he wishes to experience. To ask for a release in this situation is straight-up quitting in my book. If he does leave, that is how I will always view him.
I hope De'Monte does reconsider asking for his release. He does have a chance to take this team to the next level through his leadership along with Nick and Grant. The future is as bright as they want it to be. Winning next season actually starts now (once the season ended)l!! There is light at the end of the tunnel.
 
I will say this, knowing what the reaction will be:

If you want to call yourself a leader, a brother, family, etc., --which De'Monte has -- you don't quit and transfer because the team had one bad year. Unlike Paul, or Kadeem, or Kovien, or Diekvoss, or others who rarely saw the floor and would need to transfer to even play, De'Monte plays all the time, is in line to be a captain of the team, and is and has been an integral part of the team since Day 1. He and Nick by all accounts took leadership of the team after TJ and ShawnDre graduated. He has the ability and opportunity to be the change he wishes to experience. To ask for a release in this situation is straight-up quitting in my book. If he does leave, that is how I will always view him.
You can't view him as a quitter if he leaves. This kid has put his heart and soul into this team for that past couple years. Even if he does transfer I will always remember him positively and will root for him wherever he goes next (hopefully Tech). I understand his reasons for potentially transferring. He has likely looked at some great players we've had come through here and never get a bid to the tournament; guys like TJ, K0, Shawndre. That's has to scare him quite a bit that Mooney couldn't get to the dance even with some of those guys. UR is far worse now than when any of those guys played and doesn't seem to be getting any better. Hopefully he is just saying this to motivate Mooney to be a better coach, because if Mooney doesn't have Buck he'd be lucky to win 10 games next year.
 
Have to wonder if Buck isn't waiting and thinking about it while he waits to see how the Big man grad transfer market shapes up for us. If his thing is to not have to bang inside so much, that solution isn't coming from within the existing ranks. So, he gives Mooney a little bit of time and if he likes what he sees on grad transfer, he stays and if he doesn't he leaves?

Not sure what overall to make of Kwan leaving and Buck asking. The current feeling on KF seems to be that he wants to play in an up tempo, pressure defense etc. system that highlights his strengths and better positions him for next level. And Buck it seems wants to maybe not have to play 4 and 5 spot (maybe even not the 3) for same reason (i.e. future pro career development). If these are the reasons, I actually put less blame on the Moon man because I think both are dreaming unless the next level is really mid-lower level foreign leagues. CM's job isn't to put these guys on display and in the best possible light, its to win games. And they took scholarships to play for UR, so its disappointing to see them bale and for such a bad reason in my mind. But their faulty thinking about their futures probably can't be laid at Mooney's feet.

On the other hand, if they are leaving cause they hate losing or because playing at UR (for Moon man) just isn't any fun, then that's an indictment of Mooney and he should follow them out the door.
 
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