Or attend a Stuart Smalley self help seminar. "Mooney is good enough, smart enough, and doggone a viable grad transfer is going to like him"
really? I've been thinking about ending each post with a complaint so I'd fit in better here. I'm a positive fan but I also try to be realistic. and Coleby to UR? I don't see any chance. I love UR, but I don't see the sales pitch here. he's been playing on a national championship contender. he'll have a chance to play on a P5 team. pretty sure he will, as would I. but go ahead and blame CM when he does.
Come on guys, here is the sales pitch: Huge opportunity to be the missing piece on an A10 contender / NCAA contender. This is what you sell, you have to believe this if you are our coaches or you go work at a different profession.
Exactly, we have an enviable pitch for a big man grad transfer. And lots of BCS players end up at non-BCS programs every year. I know our coach has not had success in getting these guys, but lots of other coaches from non P-5 programs have.
of course that's the pitch. and of course CM sells it. and of course it's the same pitch as every team that's in the market for a grad transfer. except the P5 teams like Iowa State play bigger games in front of bigger crowds every night. they have playing time to offer too.
spiderman lives in real world obviously some of us here live in fantasy land
Well we hammer Ulla for living in fantasy world, but if you are the coaches, you have to live in that to a certain extent. I really don't see someone like the grad transfer from Kansas as unattainable. If thinking like that then we should shut down the shop. Now, whether he would work out is another matter, but he sounds like someone who has been able to produce - though limited by his own roster.
Let's also take a chill pill here. To the best of my knowledge, CM only has tried to go after grad transfers in the last two years. We missed on a couple (Hans, maybe more last year?), we got one that the school tanked. and the one we did get wasn't a great fit. I'm not going to get all crazy about this...we don't have a vast grad program for guys to choose from nor are we a guaranteed ticket to the post-season or to a pro contract.
Grad transfers, but not limited to big men:
Tyler Cavanaugh ended up at GW and fared pretty well. Sure would have been nice to have a guy like that playing beside TJ the last few years.
We tried and failed to get Alex Mitola and Patrick Steeves. Both ended up at GW, which made it that much worse. We also tried to get a big man from Texas A&M who ended up at Minnesota.
Your definition of "realistic" seems to be "never any better than what it has been previously." My definition is loftier than that. I don't see one NCAA berth in 7 years as the ceiling for this program, nor do I think we should ever become "realistic" about that being a fact. We invest too much in this program financially and have too much to offer as a program and university to accept this as our fate.
Just a few off the top of my head and with a quick search going from BCS to the A-10:
Well, in fairness, it did help get them to the Sweet 16 a few years back. And it also helped me get this shiny new avatar.
SF, one might note that the destinations of nearly all, nay all of these transfers are to schools with less than stellar academic requirements. Just an observation.
I don't expect us to be a national power. But if we can't, or are unwilling to, regularly compete for and make the NCAA tournament, then what is the point of all this? Woody nailed it in his column – why are we spending $12 million on a coach who can't take us to the NCAAs? Why are we competing in the A-10 if we are not willing to accept one or two kids a year who have borderline academics? Why did we spend $25M to renovate the Robins Center if we can't beat good teams there? Why do we charter every flight to road games if we aren't committed to being one of the best teams in the A-10 every year?
Was this a sign in the men's room at Phil's Continental Lounge?
The problem is some of us have seen UR better and we want it back. I could donate a whole lot less money, pick up cheap seats and see a middle of the pack (or maybe top third of the pack) team, but I don't because I want to go back to what we had under Tarrant...... and I don't see why we can't.
Well, you may have to transport us back to the CAA. I don't mean to be glib, but it's just a different set of conditions. I was in school in the heyday of that run and admit that it's hard to deal with not having that kind of success. But I also think that period was an exceptional run when you look at the total body of work UR has put out over inception.
