Agree, 97. The Utah St. guys are good players, and I would take them here. And, we still need some good transfers this year. Odom has done a good job getting players in for this year, but I am not as ready as some others to say guaranteed success with them, and this does nothing to my wondering if he will do well there.
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Pretty sure that if he is successful he will not be at VCU more than a year or two.
I answer your question with one.
Do you think Mooney will lead the Spiders to the Dance forget every year but say 1 out of 4 years? We KNOW the answer to that but not to your question. Maybe your thinking too much or at least to much positive/negative thinking depending on which way you want your narrative to go?.
Both of the Utah State transfers, I believe our grad transfers, so yes I would have to think that they both will be getting major minutes given that they both have played in his system already and both have a much better college resume than does Jaynel. I don't think either of them are true PG's, so perhaps that helps Jaynel, but VCU also has Zeb Jackson returning as well.
So, just looking at what they have now, I don't see starter level minutes for Nelson next year, because these two are grad transfers, perhaps the following year Jaynel gets the keys. But Odom and VCU are gonna recruit more players next year and probably higher caliber players than Mooney would here, so no guarantees.
I think Jaynel probably wanted to stay in RVA and ergo VCU was the only logical choice but I wouldn't say it was his best choice if he wants to the man running the show for a team.
It just is not a good look to have your family dogging the team you just left, no matter how bad the situation was, espicially when you are going to play for their rival in the same city.
I hadn’t thought about it this way but I definitely agree with you. 2 years at Utah State, 2 years at VCU and he may be ready to move up if a big team comes calling. But maybe he waits for the right job instead of just a job and stays a little longer
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I don't know what you mean here, and have no idea what Mooney has to do with anything. Some on here have said Odom was a slam dunk hire, and he is and will be a better coach for them than Rhoades. I disagree. I don't see him doing as well as Rhoades, Wade, or Shaka did there. There is no hidden agenda here. I think they had a sure thing in Rhoades, and now they have an unproven guy in Odom. Time will tell, but I can't say guaranteed success just because UMBC bear UVA 5 years ago.
Found this update on Tevin Smith...doesn't look like we're involved. Lot of guys off the list over the past week. Smells like time for another spreadsheet update from MD.
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Danville product Smith dishes on transfer portal experience
Tevin Smith is departing from the Denver men's basketball program. Before he can find his new college home, he has to wade through the increasingly-crowded transfer portal.
I'll try to get a full update out tomorrow, but here's a quick look at the remaining uncommitted targets. Leaving Smith here for now until he definitely rules us out. Realistically, I think we're deeply involved with only a couple on this list at this point - Chavez, Brown, Suggs the most obvious. Hopefully there are a few more names not on this list that we have some real progress with. Definitely getting into crunch time here...
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What message does this sends on our program?I'll try to get a full update out tomorrow, but here's a quick look at the remaining uncomitted targets. Leaving Smith here for now until he definitely rules us out. Realistically, I think we're deeply involved with only a couple on this list at this point - Chavez, Brown, Suggs the most obvious. Hopefully there are a few more names not on this list that we have some real progress with. Definitely getting into crunch time here...
Yeah, good call out. I was going off of an initial post that SF shared, but it looks like that tweet was deleted? The most recent Portal Report lists also don't mention us.
Time will tell but Odom is more proven coming in than any of their prior hires were. For losing 8-9 guys off roster he's done a nice job reloading, we have as many roster spots open as they do if burton doesn't return and we have a 19 year vet coach and had lot more time to prepare.
Hopefully we get a true forward like Settle or Hensley maybe w multiple years left we need a player like that imo too. There has to be others we're not listed with I'm counting on that. Brown as a guard would work too but does a guy like that come East when his coach his now at Utah St? As long as he doesn't get clamped up during pickup I consider them the favorite but who knows we'll see. Thought Wilcox might be a possibility here.
Good spot. Note that this is a 2023 frosh, not a transfer.
Offers since decommitting include UMBC, Buffalo, UNH, and Manhattan. Not super inspiring.
That is not an impressive list.I'll try to get a full update out tomorrow, but here's a quick look at the remaining uncommitted targets. Leaving Smith here for now until he definitely rules us out. Realistically, I think we're deeply involved with only a couple on this list at this point - Chavez, Brown, Suggs the most obvious. Hopefully there are a few more names not on this list that we have some real progress with. Definitely getting into crunch time here...
agreed, but won a good league (NEPSAC-A), scored 26 in the championship game after 42 in the semi's (11 threes that game), and was the league POY. clearly a shooter. question is can he defend at this level.
Going to guess that most higher level programs are going to do very little recruiting at the high school level other than the highest tier guys. Why use a roster spot when you can pull “proven” players from portal? Plus, it is late in the recruiting cycle.
Guy has range.
Native, agree, its a big shift in the way programs are going to recruit h.s. players. At least now, the extra covid year has worked its way through the system I think, or almost.
Who knows maybe the portal will allow the mid major teams to have better opportunity for the guys in the top 100-250 range.
Native, agree, its a big shift in the way programs are going to recruit h.s. players. At least now, the extra covid year has worked its way through the system I think, or almost.
Who knows maybe the portal will allow the mid major teams to have better opportunity for the guys in the top 100-250 range.
Michael O'Connell, grad transfer with two years left out of Stanford. 6'2" guard who was ranked around #100 coming out of high school and started most of his games at Stanford. Not a huge points guy (6 ppg) and only 30% from deep, but a steady guard averaging over 3 assists a game.
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Latest on Stanford Cardinal guard Michael O'Connell including latest updated stats on ESPN
I have to disagree with you here EL
In their careers Goose has played 911 more minutes than O’Connell. In those 911 minutes Goose only attempted 12 more shots and 6 more free throws. O’Connell also has 120 more assists.
Offensively this would be a clear upgrade over Goose in my opinion.
I don’t know much about this guys defense but his per-game rebounding is very similar to Goose’s.
A 6'2 guard who can't shoot? No thanks. The fact this dude started at Stanford tells you how bad Stanford has been the past 3 years.
kenpom lists Cedrick Lindsay as a statistically similar player. Lindsay was more efficient offensively though.
Have u guys seen many of the guys we r listed with? Not sure why bagging on O’Connell. Heavy minutes coming out of Stanford & PAC 12. solid defender. Distributor. We have up to 4 ships left! 2 years eligibility. Good interest level from other schools. I’d take him for sure. But I guess when u have all these guys banging on our doors from brooklyn Chicago st Charleston Southern it’s really tough.
Ironic this guy’s name came up and feel the same. Watched Stanford a couple times this year and this guy I said to myself why is he getting so many minutes? Maybe a couple of not so good games but saw very little quality.
Well, looking further into it, he’s probably the only guy under 6’5 on the roster and no one else I guess can play the point? Now I go to Kenpom and see the last three years Stanford ranked like 3rd, 7th and 8th in height. Maybe we can do a couple transfer trades with them we get size and they get the opposite. Academics should not be an obstacle lol.
For me get the kid that his coach is going to Utah State over him. Though I see G’s thanking maybe performs better at mid-major level? Though if you can’t shoot, don’t think it matters what level.
Yes, Darius Brown is the best fit of the names I have seen mentioned. He can shoot - 46/39.7/90 shooting percentage splits. Elite. And DPOY in his conference. And good Assist/TO rate. And solid looking guy, played 30 minutes per game. Not necessarily feeling good about our chances considering the coach connection at Utah State. I do think this would be a great fit next to Jordan King, and give us a top of the conference type of back court.
Agree on Brown. He was on campus & we seem to do pretty well at that stage. I'm just skeptical we'd land a lifetime guy from out west who is now visiting school w former coach. Then u throw in the clamping he experienced here. Even tho he came from a very good ncaa team and we were bad. Hard to believe but it's out there. So I'm kinda factoring Brown out but hopefully wrong. O'Connell has his Stanford degree and from NY. He can play lacrosse here if he's no good ha. Former MD lacrosse recruit. If there's real traction on O'Connell I'm here for it too. There is not a lot out there (publicly). I like Settle from Howard as a big F. He tweeted the other day his recruitment is 100% back open. We reportedly had interest b4 but who knows how accurate. Another F Jordan Wood out of Howard is in portal too, with 2 years left and we should be on him too imo. King was a very good pickup but I'm not very enamored with our current status w time ticking by. Hopefully we r slow playing it.
yeah, what do Wichita St, LMU, Notre Dame, Maryland and Ohio State know?
Gkiller, agree - we, and by we I mean Mooney , has some work left to do. If we strike out on Brown, not sure our options at guard out there? If a lot of commitments this week, I guess that very well could push other guys out to the portal.
, has some work left to do. If we strike out on Brown, not sure our options at guard out there? If a lot of commitments this week, I guess that very well could push other guys out to the portal.
Looks like New Mexico's NIL guy has a pretty good competitive streak:
Roth recalls an encounter he had with Lobos fans at a football game last fall in which one said, "We can't compete with Texas. And I had a vein pop out of my neck and I looked at him; I said, 'Of course we compete with Texas.' ... Yes, we can compete with Texas. But they're not in our league. We must compete with (fellow Mountain West schools) San Diego State, Boise (State), Fresno (State) and UNLV, or we shouldn't do this."
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Roth recalls an encounter he had with Lobos fans at a football game last fall in which one said, "We can't compete with Texas. And I had a vein pop out of my neck and I looked at him; I said, 'Of course we compete with Texas.' ... Yes, we can compete with Texas. But they're not in our league. We must compete with (fellow Mountain West schools) San Diego State, Boise (State), Fresno (State) and UNLV, or we shouldn't do this."
Meet the man helping Lobo athletes capitalize on the new era of college sports
Apr. 22—Talking Grammer Podcast —Ep 62: Kurt Roth on NIL money for UNM athletes (TG 4.20.23) In August, it will have been a half century since Kurt Roth stepped off an airplane in Albuquerque — an 18-year-old New York kid embarking on a college journey he's yet to truly complete. Now an...
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While our guy tells us to "temper our expectations". Kind of like their guy a bit more for some reason.Looks like New Mexico's NIL guy has a pretty good competitive streak:
Roth recalls an encounter he had with Lobos fans at a football game last fall in which one said, "We can't compete with Texas. And I had a vein pop out of my neck and I looked at him; I said, 'Of course we compete with Texas.' ... Yes, we can compete with Texas. But they're not in our league. We must compete with (fellow Mountain West schools) San Diego State, Boise (State), Fresno (State) and UNLV, or we shouldn't do this."
Meet the man helping Lobo athletes capitalize on the new era of college sports
Apr. 22—Talking Grammer Podcast —Ep 62: Kurt Roth on NIL money for UNM athletes (TG 4.20.23) In August, it will have been a half century since Kurt Roth stepped off an airplane in Albuquerque — an 18-year-old New York kid embarking on a college journey he's yet to truly complete. Now an...
