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As long as we bad mouth the team (coaches), this will happen again and again. Beware of the things we say that can possibly turn recruits off.
I guess the counter to this argument is that the school and majority of fans have supported said coach and his coaching staff for 18 years..almost unprecedented in big time college athletics. This message board and fanbase are absolutely tame compared to almost all the team boards out there. Going to the tournament consistently and winning big games against the best teams in your conference and OOC schedule trumps any message board post by a random keyboard warrior. Those accomplishments (or lack of) fall squarely on the shoulders of the coach.
 
Not sure what happened to Maddox, but it is obvious no P6 teams wanted him. He left the team after 20 games last season for a family emergency, and his final 2 games before that, he scored 0 points in 20 minutes against Clemson and 0 points in 6 minutes against Duke. When asked in late February if Maddox might return, VT's coach said his family is doing much better, but the likelihood of him returning is not good.

Not sure what to think of all of that, but his performance took a big turn down from his 1st year to his 2nd, as his 2 point % went from 51.9% to 40.4%, and his 3 point % went from 50.6% to 32.3%. Without knowing the whole story, I don't want to just start throwing things out there, but maybe it's not that big of a deal that he didn't come here. Time will tell.
That’s a lot research my friend. You had me after the first sentence of knowing the direction of your post. Maybe I can play devil’s advocate, and say possibly wanted to be a Spider but passed after realizing who was the coach?

In reality @GKiller gave us the answer a few days ago why he chose GM. You know it might be fun if we get involved in a point counterpoint back-and-forth between us.:)
 
That’s a lot research my friend. You had me after the first sentence of knowing the direction of your post. Maybe I can play devil’s advocate, and say possibly wanted to be a Spider but passed after realizing who was the coach?

In reality @GKiller gave us the answer a few days ago why he chose GM. You know it might be fun if we get involved in a point counterpoint back-and-forth between us.:)
Not really a lot of research...it took about a minute. I knew he had left the team last year for family reasons, and remembered reading about Mike Young's comment saying Maddox probably wouldn't return even though his family was doing better, but didn't realize how dramatic his shooting numbers dropped until looking it up. Sure, you can blame Mooney all you want, and I'm sure that would give you many likes on here for doing so, but if Maddox were down to us and GMU, wouldn't he have already realized who our coach was before all that?

Anyway, I missed G giving us the answer a few days ago. That's pretty impressive by G considering Maddox announced yesterday. He may do great at Mason, and maybe he would have been a good fit here, but if this were last year in the portal, my guess is we would have seen a lot of P6 interest in him. I think it's a fair question wondering if he will ever be able to find his form from 2 years ago. If you disagree and don't think he's probably a different player now with more concerns than a couple years ago, that's fine.
 
Sdad has mentioned that we have had guys in. Obviously we know about Brown and King. Any others guards out there that are still in play? I know you can't name names, but curious if the one's we have already had on campus are still options or committed elsewhere? Have we had anyone 6'7 or above in for visits?
 
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Sdad has mentioned that we have had guys in. Obviously we know about Brown and King. Any others guards out there that are still in play? I know you can't name names, but curious if the one's we have already had on campus are still options or committed elsewhere? Have we had anyone 6'7 or above in for visits?
Only others I had heard of were Maddox( obviously gone) and Suggs as of now. But I do believe there may be 1 or 2 out there we are in on.
 
VCU twitter rumblings about them about to announce what sounds like a Utah State transfer ..
 
We're on a long list of right-swipers for Jarrett Hensley out of Cincy. Played one year at UNCG then two at Cincy, should have two years left. 6'8" low-minute bench guy from the KC area. Doesn't appear to be a threat from deep.


 
We're on a long list of right-swipers for Jarrett Hensley out of Cincy. Played one year at UNCG then two at Cincy, should have two years left. 6'8" low-minute bench guy from the KC area. Doesn't appear to be a threat from deep.


I know every highlight tape looks good, but this guy is pretty darn impressive athletically, lol.
has to be a story as to how a guy getting 7 mpg at Greensboro transfers up to Cincinnati.
 
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De'Sean Allen-Eikens is looking for his fourth school...two years at North Dakota, one at New Orleans, and last year at CSUN. 6'6" guard shoots ~30% from deep. Rebounds pretty well, but not an assist guy.

I wonder if our staff knows he was arrested a month ago on spring break in Fort Lauderdale for fighting with a bouncer and punching a cop.


 
De'Sean Allen-Eikens is looking for his fourth school...two years at North Dakota, one at New Orleans, and last year at CSUN. 6'6" guard shoots ~30% from deep. Rebounds pretty well, but not an assist guy.

I wonder if our staff knows he was arrested a month ago on spring break in Fort Lauderdale for fighting with a bouncer and punching a cop.


Sounds like a badass.
 
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EP, I have no doubt Odom will school Mooney. BUT, glad you are counting on Odom and these USU stiffs, who ran the eff screaming away from competition with my SDSU Aztecs. They, and the great AAU team loaded (great aau team but poor ncaa college performers) should be able to come through on your expected under on NCAA wins (under .5) Carry on with your AAU team and Mountain West scared rejects. Probably beat mooney but choke in the tourney.
 
@VT4700 I know it's might appear like internet stalking, but presently on A-F scale what's Odom's grade? Still questioning his recruiting ability?

I know, Mooney probably better at retaining his own players. Wait a minute, these two guys weren't even recruited initially by Odom. One measly year with him and leaving to go sideways to a destination that won't guarantee them the same playing time by staying at Utah St. Though IMO a better shot at going to the Dance again considering MWC >>>A10!

We really don't know how well Odom can coach a completely new team with the above two players being only guarantees of showing mid-majors quality but off top of head I say Odom>>>Mooney at attaining success with it.

I apologize to alum here reading this but really for me only way to look at situation. What's the saying, "if you got nothing good to say, don't say anything." That I believe has been going on for too long with the highs-ups of U of R. I believe a few got so frustrated they thought WTF, lets put up a billboard. I think educated enough to know wouldn't get coach sent on his way but needed everyone to know the leafy campus doesn't extend into the Robins Center.
 
1) Hensley - Sman, I am with you, he looks very athletic and has good size. I think at this time we actually good use one more good guard most - but would definitely like to add some depth inside. This guy looks like a guy worth the chance. Not sure his story and/or why he did not get more PT.
2) Brown - as someone else noted, seems to be our current number 1 target. Really like his all around game and think he would be a great addition. Per previous tweets, visiting Utah State today and tomorrow. Hopefully can get out of there without a commitment. Minnesota seems to be a bit of a mess with losing bunch of guys following a poor season - but maybe they can sell him on being able to showcase his game against Big 10 competition.
3) Expecting to see a lot of activity this week, so if Brown falls through, hope we have a good plan C, considering missed out on Maddox.
 
Yes, I am still questioning if Odom can recruit. Do you think this will happen every year, where there will be multiple AAU guys from Richmond who all struggled at their previous spot wanting to transfer? Or, having 2 guys follow him from Utah St.? Good for him to get some guys in there after taking over a depleted roster, but what happens next year and the year after? We will see, but it is still very fair to question if he can recruit or not. And, also fair to question if he will continue the success VCU is used to seeing.
 
@VT4700 I know it's might appear like internet stalking, but presently on A-F scale what's Odom's grade? Still questioning his recruiting ability?

I know, Mooney probably better at retaining his own players. Wait a minute, these two guys weren't even recruited initially by Odom. One measly year with him and leaving to go sideways to a destination that won't guarantee them the same playing time by staying at Utah St. Though IMO a better shot at going to the Dance again considering MWC >>>A10!

We really don't know how well Odom can coach a completely new team with the above two players being only guarantees of showing mid-majors quality but off top of head I say Odom>>>Mooney at attaining success with it.

I apologize to alum here reading this but really for me only way to look at situation. What's the saying, "if you got nothing good to say, don't say anything." That I believe has been going on for too long with the highs-ups of U of R. I believe a few got so frustrated they thought WTF, lets put up a billboard. I think educated enough to know wouldn't get coach sent on his way but needed everyone to know the leafy campus doesn't extend into the Robins Center.
These two both play guard, and they both played a lot of minutes last year for Odom on a team that went to the NCAA tournament.

I think it likely that Nelson will be coming off the bench at VCU, and playing less minutes. He and his uncle won't like it, but, it is probably in his best interest long-term.
 
Yes, I am still questioning if Odom can recruit. Do you think this will happen every year, where there will be multiple AAU guys from Richmond who all struggled at their previous spot wanting to transfer? Or, having 2 guys follow him from Utah St.? g.
No, it won't. But I doubt Odom has to replace their entire roster every year. I'm not sold on the AAU team reunion guys, because they largely have not lived up to their hype on the college guard.

The two guards that followed him from Utah State, averaged 12 and 10 points, 38% and 36% from 3, 6'8 and 6'4. We would love to have gotten either of them.

I like the 1 guy Mooney has gotten from the portal, but he needs to up his game and quickly because good players are signing daily and we still have multiple holes to fill, so Mooney needs to start closing some deals and quickly.
 
These two both play guard, and they both played a lot of minutes last year for Odom on a team that went to the NCAA tournament.

I think it likely that Nelson will be coming off the bench at VCU, and playing less minutes. He and his uncle won't like it, but, it is probably in his best interest long-term.
They are both better than Nelson. This is always the danger for guys like Nelson who either transfer up or transfer laterally. You will likely never be "the guy", and they will always be looking for someone better. In this case, they got someone better sooner rather than later, meaning, like you said, Nelson will likely not be starting. I think Nelson's best interests long term and now would have been to transfer elsewhere, where he would likely get more minutes, and to tell his uncle to stop tweeting.
 
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