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He. Is. Entitled. To. His. Opinion!
He "makes his case whether you agree with him or not. He's not" whining.
I actually tried to defend the game a little, but based on Mooney, you guys are weak!!! My hero, hahaha.
Fact: 2018 DIII Win 83-37, Next game Loss 58-63
Fact: 2019 DIII Win 70-57, Next game OT Win 100-98
Seems like this “strategy” has been tried before with less than outstanding results.
UR and Tech should find a way to play each other. Tech just post their game Saturday because of cOViD issues with Louisville. UR needs a big time game, look no further than playing Tech. UR also isn’t terrible so would be a good chance for Tech to beat up on a somewhat good team.
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I’m confused. Is this directed at me? Those aren’t my quotes but you I think are replying to my post?
I’m anxious to see a team that lost by more than 50 to morgan state. It seems unlikely that we will win by more than 50, because we don’t beat anyone by that much, but I hope to be proven wrong.
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" even after a layoff"
LOL.A layoff is having a bye week and not playing a midweek game. We have played 2 games in a about 30 days, more importantly have practiced about 5-6 times in that same period. The guys in the quarantine have not been able to do ANYTHING for 14 days. Talented yes-but they are basically starting over this week.
Starting over? They aren't first year players, the starters have been running this offense for 4-5 years here and this defense for coming up on 2 years.
I'm not saying that there isn't a little rust but geez, the way you lay it out suggests that we're starting from scratch. I'm not irrational about this, I get the logic, but we're currently outside looking in, and I think we probably need to pile up some decent wins to move out of the borderline category. I could be wrong, just my suspicion.
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In a season where we are going to be fighting tooth and nail just to get the damn games played period I think it is an embarrassment that we are using this available date for a game to play a D3 school. Sorry I just do.
There are ~350 D1 schools in the nation with 14 of them being right here in The Commonwealth, you telling me there was no way to get a legitimate game on the schedule?
There are ~350 D1 schools in the nation with 14 of them being right here in The Commonwealth, you telling me there was no way to get a legitimate game on the schedule?
Seriously just play Virginia Tech. Our game with Louisville was just cancelled because of cOViD issues with Louisville. It would honestly be a quality game for both teams.
let me re-phrase...... the team can run the plays in their sleep. that is only half of the equation.
But when you haven't done the shooting drills, havent done the aerobic and weight work you are starting over.
They have spent the last 30 days playing "less basketball" than they have in the last 8 years.....
Of course we need to pile up wins, but The entire team doesn't get out until Friday. Having one practice as a full team and playing a game on Saturday makes "0" sense.
I think some of you are undervaluing the time these guys usually spend in the gym. it sounds like the bulk of the team, if not all of them, were totally shut down. no shots, no lifting, no conditioning. we already lost to LaSalle coming off a shorter break than this.
we have a good team but I don't agree with some of you that we can just roll the ball out there and beat teams. we added this game so we wouldn't have VCU as our first game back. now you want to make Tech our first game back?
yes, I agree it would be better to schedule a good team and win. but it would be worse to schedule a good team and lose. and that's more likely coming off this break. so I don't care about the d3 game but if it helps even a little mentally or physically to get ready for VCU then I'm fine with it.
we have a good team but I don't agree with some of you that we can just roll the ball out there and beat teams. we added this game so we wouldn't have VCU as our first game back. now you want to make Tech our first game back?
yes, I agree it would be better to schedule a good team and win. but it would be worse to schedule a good team and lose. and that's more likely coming off this break. so I don't care about the d3 game but if it helps even a little mentally or physically to get ready for VCU then I'm fine with it.
Numerous good reasons why this should be considered. Open dates for both, short bus ride, quality opponent for both. Good prep for NCAA tournament.
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well, you're cherry picking part of what I tried to explain.
I'm never afraid of playing good teams under normal circumstances. but I don't know why some of you expect we'd be able to play well after playing Xbox for 2 weeks and then squeezing in 2 practices.
This is a risk vs. reward situation with this game. The risk of playing is someone can get injured or we catch another COVID pause as a result. Yes - these are risks in any game, but in a game that will count for nothing - it is probably more. And of course - there is the risk of losing the game, but I consider this extremely low.
The reward - a tune up before VCU so that maybe our guys are in better position to win that game.
In terms of COVID though and our 3 pauses - since this our 3rd time around and I have to imagine we had more than 1 player positive this last time for such a long pause - are we at a point yet where maybe most of the players have had it, so maybe they will be cleared for the rest of the season. Meaning - can we really get another pause if most guys have had it?
The reward - a tune up before VCU so that maybe our guys are in better position to win that game.
In terms of COVID though and our 3 pauses - since this our 3rd time around and I have to imagine we had more than 1 player positive this last time for such a long pause - are we at a point yet where maybe most of the players have had it, so maybe they will be cleared for the rest of the season. Meaning - can we really get another pause if most guys have had it?
Mooney's decision to play a D3 scrimmage will be either be validated if we beat VCU next week OR will throw more gas on the flames of his ineptitude and double speak for running our MBB program.
I personally see this is a win-win situation.
I personally see this is a win-win situation.
We wanted a tune-up game so that we’re ready to beat vcu. There’s no point to scheduling a team much better than vcu as a tune-up. If we play tech and lose by 25, our at-large resume looks that much worse. We’re not competing with tech for an at-large anyway. We are competing with a couple teams in our league for that spot, and vcu is one of them. If we’d been playing for a couple weeks and had a chance to add tech, sure, let’s do it. But right now? No thanks.
anyone who tested positive won't be tested again for 90 days. no point. you'll continue to test positive even after recovered. so yes, that could help if any of our guys already tested positive.
but I don't think contact tracing protocols take into account whether you've already had Covid or not. if you're contract traced, you'll be quarantined.
On our schedule, barring additional pauses, we already have games set against the #37, #37, and #41 in NET. If I said they were against, Louisville, UCLA, and Maryland, I have to think people would be in agreement that wins in those games would put us in a strong position for an at-large bid (also presuming we win our other games). In fact, if it were those teams, they would be against the #38, #39, and #42 ranked NET teams, so would actually be marginally worse than the opportunity we have now.
We don't need to play VT to bolster our resume. We definitely don't need to play them after having a 15 day pause with no actual basketball activity. That's schedule suicide. If we want to schedule them for March 4, I'm all for it, but I'm guessing they have a different risk/reward calculation than we do.
In terms of contact tracing though - if a player tested positive during one of the pauses earlier in the year, do they still have to quarantine later in the year if they are a close contact and within that 90 day window? I would think not - so just wondering if we have a few guys who have tested positive in the past, we should be good for 90 days.
I don't think we should have scheduled a tough game - but just wondering if we could have gotten at least a D1 opponent to play. Anyone from the CAA, Big South, etc. Someone within a drive to Richmond. I guess the argument would be - we lost to Hofstra - so why take another chance at a loss like that. But if that is the case - just do what St. Louis does and stop playing games at all cost.
I don't think we should have scheduled a tough game - but just wondering if we could have gotten at least a D1 opponent to play. Anyone from the CAA, Big South, etc. Someone within a drive to Richmond. I guess the argument would be - we lost to Hofstra - so why take another chance at a loss like that. But if that is the case - just do what St. Louis does and stop playing games at all cost.
This. I think the number of games we get in will matter, so even a lightweight D1 game that we win would perceptually help, a few more of those seem to offset our four losses a bit.
Again, I get the logic of this game, I'm not crapping all over the strategy. I just don't love it given our current position.
Mooney himself said they went back & forth on whether to play this game so that tells u right there it wasn't a slam dunk decision from a strategic risk/reward point of view.
I just found it funny he said want to play as many good teams as possible & then immediately this news on D3 St Marys game comes out. Not sure I believe their heart is really in the former.
But I get this game. That way no excuses vs. VCU, tho at 7-19 there r really no more to possibly use.
I just found it funny he said want to play as many good teams as possible & then immediately this news on D3 St Marys game comes out. Not sure I believe their heart is really in the former.
But I get this game. That way no excuses vs. VCU, tho at 7-19 there r really no more to possibly use.
You are thinking way too logically. Need to step out and think outside the box. Wouldn't most people want to see UR / St M instead of UR / Tech? Moon & Hardt have this figured out.
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I don’t think Mooney ever wants to play St Mary’s ever again after the ncaa tournament game. It’s sad because that St Mary’s is really who UR has the ability to be but no...
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