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1. You can buy season tickets because they are so affordable and if you don't show for half of the games, you still feel like you are getting more than your moneys worth.
2. We overstate attendance, tickets sold vs. butts in the seat. Attendance for Saturday's game was listed at 5,500. That corresponds to a 3/4 full arena. The Robins Center was at most half full on Saturday (with a good showing from VMI fans as well).
3. We are very unique that we have a large population to draw from, cheap tickets, and no other competition from competing sporting events in the town. VCU has priced itself out of the casual/family market and they can because they win and demand for their tickets sets those prices. So, literally, you can't get a cheaper Saturday night entertainment than what we have going at the RC.
So, yes our attendance is pretty good if you look at the box scores of what we put out. But I'd like to see a comparison on revenue from ticket sales vs. other programs. Because I believe we simply low ball ticket prices to get people in the seats.
I couldn't care less about the revenue. We're not some poor program accepting every buy game just so we can afford new basketballs. Money isn't our issue. If we win enough, demand will improve. Until then, I don't care if we charge $1 per ticket. I want the best gameday experience possible.
Oh, I could care less about revenue as well. But you are right, if we win enough, demand will improve. Well, 20 years into the 56% experiment in winning says that isn't happening. Our attendance and ticket prices are just 2 more symptoms of the disease.
Also, don't forget we took about over 2,500 seats out of the Robins Center during Mooney's tenure as well, and still can't sell it out like we used to or charge the going rate for major D-1 college basketball.
Me too. Right now we have frequently malfunctioning video boards, misspelled players names, a losing team, and our halftime entertainment nearly every game is a scrimmage between 11 year olds. It's not a very captivating event to be a part of this season.
Also, while we are talking about game time experience. The sound system is terrible, everything sounds garbled/muffled. I used to think it was primarily the young lady who does our timeouts but it is pretty much everything that sounds muffled at this point.
When I called to order some extra tickets for the VMI game last week. I got the out of office message from the ticket office. It was conveying the ticket office was closed over Thanksgiving but it did inform me what I needed to do to order tickets to the football playoff game that took place 3 weeks ago.
But we have charter flights. But we can't spell check or update OOO messages. Wild. I can see some AD staffer read this board, see these criticisms, go up to Hardt to advise, and he looks at them with a glassy eyed look and nods.
Sure seems like working for UR in the athletic department is a quite a gig. No need to do anything other than the bare minimum. UR is ahead of the curve as the entitlement generation hits the workforce.
I do care about Revenue. But not to have more funds but to measure performance.
I'd like to see the A10 teams ranked by the combined revenue of (Ticket Sales + Seat Licenses + Post Season) over a rolling 6 seasons as a measure of success each year...
Woody, I get your point. And agree this should be a positive. But when u look at all the other mickey mouse stuff the program and pr team can't perform, the inability to draw fans at normal prices just becomes another area of underperformance.
I’m for ticket specials freebies etc. because atmosphere matters & u need to be concerned about building fanbase. Get butts in seats. Especially w our student profile.
The too hard excuses for cake eaters make me laugh overall but our small school is the most legit. Winning consistently is only way to overcome that disadvantage.
Which is another reason why the tethering to Moonicrity is odd. After 20 years shouldn’t we be ahead in this dept too? 20 years 1 guy. U would think atmosphere would be high. But again expectations never increase under Moon. 20 years facing vcu. Keep doing shitty. status quo is great. I feel like we have cheaper tix & best deals than anyone. On 1 hand funny to complain about that but the reverse means a much healthier & successful program.
Maybe the admin realizes they will never buy out a contract & it’s a wash. Eat lost revenue but make up for it by never having to tap into rainy day funds. Or maybe $$ really is a non issue except they still ask us for it.
The too hard excuses for cake eaters make me laugh overall but our small school is the most legit. Winning consistently is only way to overcome that disadvantage.
Which is another reason why the tethering to Moonicrity is odd. After 20 years shouldn’t we be ahead in this dept too? 20 years 1 guy. U would think atmosphere would be high. But again expectations never increase under Moon. 20 years facing vcu. Keep doing shitty. status quo is great. I feel like we have cheaper tix & best deals than anyone. On 1 hand funny to complain about that but the reverse means a much healthier & successful program.
Maybe the admin realizes they will never buy out a contract & it’s a wash. Eat lost revenue but make up for it by never having to tap into rainy day funds. Or maybe $$ really is a non issue except they still ask us for it.
Just wondering, what are "normal" prices? VCU's? I read earlier on this thread they were ridiculously expensive.
VCU tickets are more expensive - but their last home game, vs. William and Mary - they got 7367 fans per the box score.
Our attendance at the last home game vs. VMI was 5498 - so roughly 2000 less fans And we all know our number was inflated. I am guessing VCU may or may not need to inflate their number, but def not to the extent we do at UR.
At this point - I would make every single game on the schedule free for kids 12 and under. Draw families to the game, and make general admission 5 or 10 dollars depending on the game.
Our attendance at the last home game vs. VMI was 5498 - so roughly 2000 less fans And we all know our number was inflated. I am guessing VCU may or may not need to inflate their number, but def not to the extent we do at UR.
At this point - I would make every single game on the schedule free for kids 12 and under. Draw families to the game, and make general admission 5 or 10 dollars depending on the game.
We should charge $100 per ticket for kids this season. We don't want any impressionable kids watching this slop. They'll never come back!
Their official attendance was 7,637, which is a sellout. Butts in seats obviously less, but every seat was sold/distributed in some fashion.
you keep saying we inflate our numbers.
we record our attendance the same way I believe every other college basketball team does. we don't do a headcount. we don't walk through a turnstile counter.
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