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bumping to keep Cody Toppert's name on the list.
star player at Cornell (checks the Ivy box)
current assistant at Memphis (considered a great recruiter and player development guy)
former G-League head coach and Phoenix Suns assistant coach
Richmond might be a stepping stone job for him, but who cares.
star player at Cornell (checks the Ivy box)
current assistant at Memphis (considered a great recruiter and player development guy)
former G-League head coach and Phoenix Suns assistant coach
Richmond might be a stepping stone job for him, but who cares.
sorry. was joking based on Mooney's Princeton background. nothing wrong with being an Ivy grad but certainly not a real prerequisite.
I like the out of box thinking & coming up w options sman. Intriguing. I’d just say that Toppert doesn’t seem to be an eastern time zone guy outside his Cornell career. Also maybe more of a nba development type since he gets those guys at Memphis too. Not that those r disqualifiers after all KA & Fleming r too but they have better resumes & know Richmond being alums. Just think makes less likely.
plus isn’t Memphis one of the most underachieving programs out there right now? Excluding Richmond of course we have that title.
Who Toppert? Yeah no doubt. I think u misread my reply. I was referring to why UR wouldn’t be that interested & have on a list. Or at least my take on why he’s down my own list. Tho possible he could be good.
Nancy Lieberman is still the obvious choice.
Hardt is not an out of the box thinker. We’re stuck with safe and Queally approved.
Because she's one of the smartest basketball minds around, she's connected with every NBA superstar of the last 25 years, she's coached men at a much higher much than this already, she brings instant credibility and connections like no coach we've ever had, and as an unintentional effect, hiring the first female head coach at a D1 men's program would bring us all sorts of positive national attention. And her connection to the program sure doesn't hurt.
exactly. I'm fine interviewing her. I don't see it as some layup though. for one thing, she's 63. and she's never recruited. and she may have absolutely no interest either.
We know her history and admire her knowledge, but if you‘re an 18 y.o kid are
you likely to listen the her as a recruiter?
If she had any experience as an asst. college coach, with recruiting experience then
you might have a strong argument.
you likely to listen the her as a recruiter?
If she had any experience as an asst. college coach, with recruiting experience then
you might have a strong argument.
She would just need to have them read this article before she showed up. https://www.theplayerstribune.com/articles/nancy-lieberman-kings-women-in-coaching
You can't help but be stoked.
I think lots of programs would be smart to want her, yes, but the idea is that her specific connection to our program might give us a leg up. And realistically, though stupidly, I don't see many big time programs wanting to be the first to hire a woman.
So all of the big donors are 18? I'm having trouble seeing the downside of a Nancy Lieberman hire. I mean, the University of Richmond IS all about diversity, isn't it? Her first year, the Spiders would be on the front page of every sports section in the country, EVERY GAME. When she wins her first game it would be all over television and the internet as well. Think of the immeasurable positive publicity we would receive, even if she didn't win her first year. But yet all the smart businessmen and PhD eggheads that run the show just can't seem to think outside the box with any critical thinking. And then, when some other school eventually hires a woman to coach the men and gets worldwide praise, our Board of Trustees will wonder why they didn't think of that.
I just don't think you hire her BECAUSE she's a female.
would you be so in favor of her hire if she was a male who never coached in college, never recruited and would be 64 years old next season?
yes, she was an assistant in the NBA for 2 years (5 years ago). yes she coached in the WNBA (20 years ago). she's been a tv analyst. and obviously a great player. but I'm not hiring her as a publicity stunt.
if she's the best for the job, then fine. I'm all for calling her and gauging interest. interview her if she makes the short list. go though the process. but don't just hire her for the wrong reasons.
would you be so in favor of her hire if she was a male who never coached in college, never recruited and would be 64 years old next season?
yes, she was an assistant in the NBA for 2 years (5 years ago). yes she coached in the WNBA (20 years ago). she's been a tv analyst. and obviously a great player. but I'm not hiring her as a publicity stunt.
if she's the best for the job, then fine. I'm all for calling her and gauging interest. interview her if she makes the short list. go though the process. but don't just hire her for the wrong reasons.
These are the 3 key things in my opinion too.
Of course, the biggest hurdle is ending the current coaching contract and starting a search.
8legs1dream
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Mooney has full veto power over any new coach they may want to try to bring in 
I'm not sure anyone wants her hired just because she's female. If she can coach a bunch of NBA prim donnas, she ought to do fine with a group of 18 year olds. It's the positive unintended consequences that would go through the roof for UR.
And to answer your question, yes, I would hire her if she were a man. Right now I would be in favor or hiring a house plant if it meant replacing Moondog.
Seems that the University of Richmond has made it abundantly clear that they are not going to fire the "winningest coach in school history." Mooney will be gone when he makes the decision to go.
I agree that Lieberman would be a very smart hire, but how old will she be when Mooney decides that it is time for him to leave?
I agree that Lieberman would be a very smart hire, but how old will she be when Mooney decides that it is time for him to leave?
8legs1dream
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If the thinking is that Nancy Lieberman is not the right match for the coaching job we could hire her son instead with her as the top assistant.......................
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I'm a Nancy fan. Honestly, I think if somehow Mooney is gone, and Hardt is in charge we are screwed. If somehow that hire would be Nancy it would be better than 95% of the hires that Hardt could have his slovenly finger prints on. It could fail as sman seems to allude, but could be a huge win. If I had a son that was D1 level, would have no problem picking a Nancy Lieberman led program. I think she has a chance to be great and could recruit at a level 10,000 per cent greater than Mooney.
Nancy is currently a broadcaster for the Oklahoma City Thunder according to Wikipedia. That's the first issue. Mooneys contract is probably the second issue how many years left? Hardt said before he isn't firing someone in middle season. So we are stuck with Mooney until someone pays the bailout.
Pretty sure Nancy's buyout with the Thunder wouldn't be a hurdle.
Hiring a Mooney protege (either directly or indirectly) will never rid the University of the Mooney disease. Only teams like Duke or Carolina could get away with hiring “their guys” because they have been successful . VCU does this to some extent and it works. Mooney is a big fat failure. Time to turn the ship around and go in a different direction.
I would certainly want TJ also and be the heir apparent to his mother. Although TJ played under Mooney, he was actually taught how to play elsewhere. Just think how many woke boxes we could check with a Lieberman hire. Put us on the map again.
Not saying you are wrong, but that would be absolutely idiotic for them to just ride out his contract in order to save a million bucks. But then again, it is John Hardt and company so who knows. Everyone over there just seems to be collecting paychecks.
When has being idiotic ever been an obstacle for our sports programs to just continue on the same road?
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