Mens - SLU @RC - Saturday 1/18 2:30 PM USA network
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Also, Tyne was essentially benched for the last 15 minutes of the game. Think this is the second or third time that’s happened this season?
Just hasn’t worked at all with him this year.
Just hasn’t worked at all with him this year.
Moon strategy. Must be logical? When I saw that, I couldn't believe such a mismatch.
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All they had to do was set one screen to get Roche or White guarding Avila - to see that happen over and over again is just maddening.
We have such a terrible coaching staff - do something about it.
Guess the prez didn't do enough in his coming out party earlier this week to get more minutes today. Got a few mins in first half, but I don't think he left the bench second half???? Wait for comments this week by Moon saying he'll need to find GW3 more minutes. Prez will be here next year maybe. Time now to see more of what he can do. B Artis did hit a few today but surely wouldn't have hurt to give the prez more minutes.
Vintage Mooney, up 6 with 3 minutes left, automatic loss. It's like clockwork. Amazing.
Up 1, he puts his point guard on the 6'10" guy to blow the lead, then draws up a play that forces his ballhandler to step out of bounds. Coach for Life!
Up 1, he puts his point guard on the 6'10" guy to blow the lead, then draws up a play that forces his ballhandler to step out of bounds. Coach for Life!
I can’t think of any games where that happened to the Spiders twice, let alone within the same half. Finding new ways to lose.
It was laughable. Run the exact same defensive play after the TO. I guess that was to see what an adjustment looks like. /s
I’m still struggling to figure out what our defensive strategy is. It’s no longer a straight man defense. Switching man?
Feels like we are in bizarro world doing what we did a decade ago that wasn’t working then and isn’t working now.
Dusan and AP definitely brought some much needed energy and nice plays. Even Beagle got into the act.
Unfortunately
The early “interest” by the students quickly dwindled. I don’t think any of them stood up for anything even when the Spiders rallied and could have used some extra support. @Section9.RowD you are going to have to give some classes on school spirit.
Tyne got bulldozed in first half and so White got to play to show what he could do. Surprisingly, he was also pushed around and scored on.
The main thing I learned is that STL is not very impressive. They are much better than last year of course and I expect Schertz will get them back into the top tier. However, this year I can see why VCU schooled them. As poor as the Spider play is this year, they should have won this game which surprised me.
Is SLU really 1 of the best offensive teams in the country? They didn’t strike me as that tonight nor from a macro view tho admittedly I haven’t followed them too closely. What Mooney said.
Yes the old switching man-to-man. In the day of toughness and sound defense you were taught to have the screen called out and defender fought thru it. Sometimes under, sometimes over the screen depending on if you were guarding a good shooter. I have never seen so many times where our 5’10 guys were guarding a big. We don’t have the 6’4/6’5 types to switch everything. Talk to us Knee-pad.
Now that his season is over we got a visit from Tyrek Funderburk. His presence was annouced and the crowd gave a warm welcome. He appeared to be happy to be in the house. Coaches Wood and Huesman both greeted him warmly, as well as President Hallock, and he seemed to reciprocate.
Yes - while the student section did end up being relatively full, pretty sad to see all students sitting during two sets of free throws by SLU in the last minute .. felt bad for Delonnie who did his part to try to get the crowd more into it but alas.
It truly is amazing, game after game, year after year. I don't even know what to say that hasn't already been said. The only time there has been any open conversation about Mooney was when the billboard went up. I didn't pony up the first go round but if someone puts together a new billboard (other than Golden), let me know if you take zelle or venmo...
I took a day off. In my day off, I watched some of Michigan St. vs Illinois, and some of the UR women on TV. Michigan State, they hedge every single screen until the guy guarding the ball can get back into position, and the other three defenders sag a little to try and prevent the dump to the screener who is now rolling. They are clearly drilled in it, and they pretty much always prevent layups. They do, however, give up an occasional open three if the guy with the ball is a good passer.
The UR women are very well drilled in going "under" screens. The woman who is guarding the picker drops off to let the woman who is guarding the ballhandler slip through the screen (underneath). So we are almost always still in position and never really give up the edge to the ballhandler, sending us into scramble mode. Of course the drawback is the ballhandler can stop and shoot as the woman goes under the screen. I wouldn't employ that against Caitlin Clark, but I think there's probably enough evidence to employ that as a strategy in the women's game.
I just don't think we have a team capable of doing either thing well. So we switch everything because it is easier to comprehend. And we are back to the days of Kendall Anthony on centers and such. Last year's team was really good about being aware when King or Hunt was on a big man, and Harris or Bigelow or Dji would switch off ball to get to a slightly better matchup, but this year's team simply isn't aware enough to do it.
Last thing -- I know it isn't in fashion to blame anything but Mooney, but in the last 5 minutes, I saw AP step out of bounds twice, for no reason, Dusan force two horrible driving layups for no reason, then miss a bunny, Beagle miss a bunny, and White take a terrible long two off the dribble. I don't think any of those were "coached". Those were on the players.
The defense, that's on the coach.
The UR women are very well drilled in going "under" screens. The woman who is guarding the picker drops off to let the woman who is guarding the ballhandler slip through the screen (underneath). So we are almost always still in position and never really give up the edge to the ballhandler, sending us into scramble mode. Of course the drawback is the ballhandler can stop and shoot as the woman goes under the screen. I wouldn't employ that against Caitlin Clark, but I think there's probably enough evidence to employ that as a strategy in the women's game.
I just don't think we have a team capable of doing either thing well. So we switch everything because it is easier to comprehend. And we are back to the days of Kendall Anthony on centers and such. Last year's team was really good about being aware when King or Hunt was on a big man, and Harris or Bigelow or Dji would switch off ball to get to a slightly better matchup, but this year's team simply isn't aware enough to do it.
Last thing -- I know it isn't in fashion to blame anything but Mooney, but in the last 5 minutes, I saw AP step out of bounds twice, for no reason, Dusan force two horrible driving layups for no reason, then miss a bunny, Beagle miss a bunny, and White take a terrible long two off the dribble. I don't think any of those were "coached". Those were on the players.
The defense, that's on the coach.
Agreed, the last 5 minutes we had a lot of unforced errors. Not Mooney's fault for having players step out bounds. As for Dusan forcing things, that is kind of our offense now and that is on Mooney. He continues to run his same ole offense designed to get open shooters, except he doesn't seem to realize that we have a bunch of awful shooters. Think we are 330 or something in 3 point percentage but top 50 or so in number of 3's taken. So, then are left with players then just trying to take it the rack as our only alternative.
If you aren't going to change your offense or defense to suit your talent than you best well recruit the exact type of talent you need to run your system. Mooney does neither and this is why this is one of the worst team we have seen in a quite a while.
I will say the players out there do play with a lot of energy, which is refreshing. These guys want to win and want to play their best.
I agree the players seem to playing hard & with energy at least. But the Beagle screen that AP stepped out of bounds on was set too far back. I think the announcer even pointed out. That part is coaching imo.
Uconn's practice court is 1 foot wider than regulation. Don't ask me why or how I know, but take my word.
I will also say the ball just sticks and does not move quickly in our offense. Not as much as problem when u have Jordan King or Gilly, but otherwise we are not good st moving the ball and being shot ready. We are good at catch, look for man 35 feet from basket, pass to man 35 feet from basket.
