with context to a basketball program? that's gotta be his, right?
Mens: NET '24-'25 Rankings
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I enjoyed 2/3 of last year. There was a nice stretch of games that were fun.
I certainly felt frustration in my 5th row seat behind the bench at Barclays as we flamed out of the A10 tournament. That was not fun. Beers are $17 each there. Two double digit leads gone.
Ultimately a season can be fun, but it doesn't make it successful in the big picture if you aspire to NCAA appearances (or NCAA wins, as you state.). This is where the Moon-jockeys come to rest, that all this winning - every other season in a time period of their choosing - is so great that NCAA appearances/wins are not even needed. It's gaslighting of actual program ambition. You have it, you stated it. They just don't agree that NCAAs and winning there is what defines a successful program because their guy doesn't do much of it.
Winning NCAA tournament games is much more fun than last season's co-A10 championship.
ha. relax sman. don't think I insinuated creation. no, I'm only taking credit for bringing it to the board! the best material is stolen. & we can admit the term fits.
NIL contributions seem similar to investments...the donors are investing in our basketball program...most investors expect a satisfactory return on their investment...in college basketball I'd expect that return to be regularly battling for a conference Championship and at least occasionally earning NCAA At-Large bids...if the investment fails to deliver the expected return, the manager (Coach Mooney in this case) is usually held accountable for the lack of return...the investors have a choice if the return is not meeting their expectations...attempt to hold the manager accountable and demand a turnaround plan, or stop making further investments...
It seems to me the NIL era could significantly effect a coaches tenure. If the University values the NIL's contribution to success, and the coaching staff's failures cause NIL contributions to diminish that should create pressure on the coach to deliver results.
If this season continues to be underwhelming and is followed by more of the same, it'll be interesting to see how the NIL performs and whether, or not, it does effect the tenure of the coach...
Go Spiders!
I think all of that is true... At a normal university. Here at Richmond, most of the people who are giving big bucks are already on Mooney's side more than they are on the side of wanting desperately to win every year. So we could go 4-28 this year and none of them are going to be calling for his job. They might reduce their donations next year, if anything.
the NIL "investment" has to be looked at in the aggregate.
say a donor gives $100,000 to the Fordham NIL. while he may expect a better team based on his "investment", if the team's total NIL ranks 15th in the league ... that donor's going to be disappointed with the season.
we don't know NIL details, but any team consistently in the top 4 total NIL in any league should expect a lot from their team ... though only one team can win the league and it may not be the top NIL team.
I expect we're very top heavy and shallow in our NIL base. I know a Dayton grad who says all his friends give to their NIL.
Oh I know it’s not a big gamble at all. Plenty of other quality, ethical, nice guy coaches available.
But that’s the mindset to be overcome, that we can do better but we also might not do better and/or we could end up with a whiskey drinking, tail chasing, knife wielding miscreant instead.
It’s not gonna happen.
I’m 92% sure that I brought “Flying Dutchman” to the board but I can also acknowledge that some shipbuilder coined the phrase.
There is no such thing as regular season Champions and how can that even be claimed when the team tied for best regular season record. If I remember correctly, Mooney’s team lost the last game to a poor team to not be able to claim the sole best record. Then proceeded to lose the next two games to complete the meltdown.
STOP IT WITH REGULAR SEASON CHAMPS CRAP. Its nonsense just to boost Mooney’s mediocre stats.
Spiders slide from 261 to 274 in NET.
37. Dayton
54. Rhode Island
55. Bona
68. VCU
74. Loyola
82. Mason
128. St. Joe's
130. Davidson
150. La Salle
160. GW
186. SLU
221. Fordham
271. UMass
274. UR
286. Duquesne
37. Dayton
54. Rhode Island
55. Bona
68. VCU
74. Loyola
82. Mason
128. St. Joe's
130. Davidson
150. La Salle
160. GW
186. SLU
221. Fordham
271. UMass
274. UR
286. Duquesne
I always enjoy a good SRS thread.
As a sidebar, I get why certain fans largely don’t show here when things are down but I think they concede the moral high ground as the true fans when they do.
Gotta take the bad with the good.
As a sidebar, I get why certain fans largely don’t show here when things are down but I think they concede the moral high ground as the true fans when they do.
Gotta take the bad with the good.
I think most on here would aacknowledge the University and Atheltic Deoartment do much very well, the question, are we being "the best we can be".
Wait, so we played an away game at Auburn and slid in the NET? I guess that is what happens when you get shit canned for 40 full minutes.
CM decided to completely take this year off. Hey he deserves it. Tough to make 3 Mil a year to coach young men basketball. Last years amazing accomplishments allow him at least 2 years off from caring about winning games. He has won enough for a while. One semi successful season every 3 or 4 years should be the expectation at Little Ol UR. Anyone expecting more should root for VCU.
Down to last again in A10 at #276 and were leap-frogged by Duq's monster victory against Towson.
Am I seeing this right?? Did Dayton drop 12 Net spots after beating Marquette at home? Previously 23 Current 35.
They rose from 38 to 23 on the Marquette win. But they fell back to 35 after their 1-point Q3 win over UNLV.
Net is currently at 273. This is incomprehensible for an A-10 program that is funded like us. 2-4 against Q4. We have already lost to 3 teams with NET's lower than 240.
One thing that did make me smile is the VCU has zero Quad 1 or Quad 2 wins and a Quad 3 loss and their only OOC remaining is William and Mary Good luck getting an at large with that OOC resume.
One thing that did make me smile is the VCU has zero Quad 1 or Quad 2 wins and a Quad 3 loss and their only OOC remaining is William and Mary Good luck getting an at large with that OOC resume.
Even our SRS is currently lower than any season-ending number since 1977–78 when we went 4–22 in Slone's final year. (And two of those wins were non-DI that year as well...Atlantic Christian and Randolph–Macon.)
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Uh oh. A certain UR80's fan must be going through some things right now. Would love some inside scoop from him and how excited our NIL guys are about all of these developments.
counting out vcu. that has always worked on here lol.
I fully expect VCU to be right in the mix for at large. And if not, they'll perform in A10 tourney & be most likely to win that.
I agree with u that their OOC resume has nothing. and OOC is the more important. Miami and CSU solid wins some years not now. But remarkably their metrics r quite good considering weakness of OOC. Look at Kenpom Torvik BPI NET. Pretty high in some considering & i think 2nd in a10 in all except Net (Bona).
But they get Dayton twice they always get Dayton twice and have the best A10 schedules. They actually have 8 q1/q2 games in A10 as result. Have some on road which helps. Bona twice. Now final # of q1 or 2 will be less I bet. Skeptical Bona and URI will keep it up idk.
And what VCU never does is lose bad games. so that just lowers our roughly 10% chance to just win 1 game this year off VCU. 10% this year is probably generous.
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True, I'm well aware that they have a lucky horseshoe shoved up their rear when getting love from the committee. We are beating them this year, but hopefully a couple other A-10 teams will do enough to keep them at arms length from an at large.
