He seems more open to cringing. It's the upper crust like 80sFan that I'm interested in. He's been on the milk carton since the season began.
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His wife probably saw the big NIL check he wrote.
Didn’t Mooney say we were going to rebound this year & change our approach a bit? I thought there was an article or interview tho it now feels like a long time ago.
We did rebound against ourself in practice.
Yes, I recall this too. I think he was talking about how good a rebounder Beagle is, and having him and Walz would turn them loose to get offensive rebounds. I will say, most of these coaches talk a good game about increasing the tempo, blah blah blah in the off season and pre-season - but the inherent culture of the coaches system seems to win out most of the time. UVA also said they were going to re-do the offense (even with the intern), and understand they scrapped that already.
And yet, Mooney keeps saying this is the best shooting team he has had at Richmond. Wow. And to think we are this bad playing against 8 little sisters of the poor and Auburn. Of course, we are playing against our defense in practice, so perhaps our defense is so putrid that it makes our offense look good in comparison.
I know Mooney just got extended and all but this team might make some folks start questioning things. Even in our down years, Mooney could say "hey, were young" or pull off a .500 plus season. I think this team is gonna break both of those molds.
And the reality is that knowing Eight he was being a bit hyperbolic in his prediction. Turns out his hyperbole of how bad things would go, was pretty spot on.
Yes, issue is Mooney is hyping the shooting for this team - based on competition against ourselves and some weak scrimmage partners. Glou - only got mop up at Uconn - no idea how he would actually shoot in game speed competition. I know - I was high on him practicing against multiple pros at Uconn - but we didn't see how he shot vs those pros in practice. GW3 - who the heck knows, we have barely seen him in games. Tyne - Two years in a row shooting 27% from 3 is a scary trend. Hoping he can bring that up to high 30's by end of year. Roche - on fire from 3. He is who we though he is if can keep healthy. Nesko - shooting well below his previous 3 average. Tanner - shooting 38% from 3. He needs to just go out and ball and not worry about Mooney's offense. Be like Roche ready to shoot it every time he catches instead of looking to throw it light a hot potato to a guy 45 feet from the basket.
But yes, I think an issue is guys can bang threes pretty good agains the weak defense in practice.
But yes, I think an issue is guys can bang threes pretty good agains the weak defense in practice.
Our guys don't get good, open looks from 3. Having no inside game is a factor, and these guys just might not be quick or good enough to free themselves up better for shots. I defend our 3 point defense on here by saying every team has to give up some open 3s, and our 3 point defense % is usually pretty good. Well, every team but us is getting open looks. I don't mean just our opponents. I mean every game I watch, I see both teams getting lots of open looks from 3. But, our team and fit looks so bad offensively, we just can't get any. No one on our team will ever need to be doubled, so guys can just stay with their guy. We try to feed Beagle and Walz, but their shots end up being as low percentage as the 12 foot Quinn floater.
Moon Man still believes shooting is going to be a real asset for this team.
He is going to die on the we are a good shooting team hill. We are a good shooting team, when we play against our defense in practice, which is a terrible defense.
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Hunt is 31.7% from 3 for his career. Tyne is 27% from 3 for his. That is our starting backcourt. Our bigs are not threats from 3. Even after starting 10-40 from 3 this year, Dusan is at 35.9% for his career, but the good was at a lower D1 level so time will tell here with him. He still looks like our best offensive threat to me as he has shown he can drive and score at the basket. AP is 10-47 from 3, and was 5-11 in 2 years at UCONN. I would certainly need to see something at some point to call him a good shooter. Roche is 17-35 this year and 39% for his career. No question he is a good shooter. Tanner is 5-13 this year, but looks too tentative and does not look like he will shoot too many. So, that means we have Roche, who is a good shooter, and Dusan, who was a good shooter at Dartmouth. Bottom line is we are not a good shooting team, and, except for a few games here and there, I don't think this team ever will be.
I get why Mooney would not be publicly critical about our abilities because it doesn't do anyone any good in my opinion. The reality though is there has been no evidence to suggest we are a good shooting team. We have to work on other ways to create scoring threats because shooting the 3 at as high volume as we do and have as low of a made % as we do is not a recipe for success. Our women's team made 67% of 3's yesterday (12 for 16) and yet we also are a scoring threat in other ways. Our women's team does not have one superstar player who average 18+ ppg but instead has several players who can also score double digits on any given night. That's what we were also hoping would be the case for the men's team too.
Clearly it is not and candidly I think it's because we are not as talented as we thought we would be. Others have commented on us not capitalizing on last year's success. Going into this season I felt that many of us were happy with the momentum we were carrying forward this year getting 2 P5 recruits (one who was top 100 in their class), an America East rookie of the year, and a graduate student who average 16 ppg in a solid ivy league conference last year. On paper that looked pretty solid. Unfortunately, it has not materialized as a good shooting team offensively or strong team defensively.
Clearly it is not and candidly I think it's because we are not as talented as we thought we would be. Others have commented on us not capitalizing on last year's success. Going into this season I felt that many of us were happy with the momentum we were carrying forward this year getting 2 P5 recruits (one who was top 100 in their class), an America East rookie of the year, and a graduate student who average 16 ppg in a solid ivy league conference last year. On paper that looked pretty solid. Unfortunately, it has not materialized as a good shooting team offensively or strong team defensively.
The one positive from Yesterday’s game was Tyne was 3 of 4 from two, 3 of 6 from three, with 2 steals.
So hopefully he is improving…
I do think Tyne has the potential to be a very good guard for our team next year, but as the #2 guard option. Next year our top priority by far will be to find another Jordan King level player who will be our clear #1 guard and scoring option.
Based on my scanning of the media guide, I think it's our biggest loss since falling to #9 Georgia 90–45 in 1990. Unless I missed one in there.
3's are easier to hit when you have an offense that is capable of scoring in a multitude of fashions. Problem is we have a bunch of guys who can't take their guy off the dribble, a center that plays up top with his back to basket, can't shoot, doesn't distribute as our offense wants him to, and both of our guards are undersized and shoot over anyone. Hunt is the only guy we have who can consistently get to the hoop and finish.
Well this is an easy fix.
Let the men play with the women's basketball...
Others have already said it well but I will echo - I couldn't imagine a scenario 10+ years ago where we would be playing a Final Four type of team on the road and I don't plan my day around finding a way to watch it. I only checked the score on my phone a couple times in the first half yesterday, and was so sure we had no chance that I didn't see the final until I happened to come across it last night.
We've had some fun moments the past several years no doubt. But the life has been sucked out of this program. The effects on fans like myself and many others on here who have been around since long before Mooney are incalculable.
We've had some fun moments the past several years no doubt. But the life has been sucked out of this program. The effects on fans like myself and many others on here who have been around since long before Mooney are incalculable.
We are a terrible team in every aspect of the game, except apparently defensive rebounding, as fan2011 points out. Maybe that's because after awhile, our opponents are ahead by so much they don't try to rebound their misses? Who knows.
I know that a good coach would try to figure out ways to change things up and play to his team's strengths (if there are any) instead of just rolling the ball out and trying to do the same thing over and over again. We know which option this coach is likely to choose. Unfortunately, the NIL era means that is almost always going to be a losing proposition. You may only have the majority of your team together for 1-2 years. You can't take 3 years to force everyone to learn the one system you want to run. They won't stay long enough to see it work, if it ever does, and if you have a disaster of a season like this one, it hurts your chance to get the kind of good players you need to run it anyway.
Evolve.
I know that a good coach would try to figure out ways to change things up and play to his team's strengths (if there are any) instead of just rolling the ball out and trying to do the same thing over and over again. We know which option this coach is likely to choose. Unfortunately, the NIL era means that is almost always going to be a losing proposition. You may only have the majority of your team together for 1-2 years. You can't take 3 years to force everyone to learn the one system you want to run. They won't stay long enough to see it work, if it ever does, and if you have a disaster of a season like this one, it hurts your chance to get the kind of good players you need to run it anyway.
Evolve.
King was an anomaly. Players like that don’t come around often, and the probability of us landing another King is low. He must have flown below the radar and/or had a massive breakout.
So no big deal. Only 34 years ago. Hopefully yesterday’s type of loss won’t happen again in Mooney’s next 14 years.
It would be great to follow it up with results like the 2 games that followed that one.
And eventually Syracuse…
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I feel like the UGA loss had 32 turnovers, many in the backcourt by freshmen PGs. Blair at point next game…
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I hate to go Rain Man on you but that’s 75%. Don’t be cheatin’ the ladies.
