If I want to ask a critical question of Mooney I should be allowed to. Not allowing me to do so violates my constitutional rights as a U.S. citizen. Mooney can choose whether or not to answer my question but I should be allowed the opportunity to ask it.
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lol. I hope you're kidding.
Not a joke. We have freedom of speech and freedom of press at Americans. UR will not allow us to speak our minds on a talk show about UR basketball which is ridiculous to me.
Why not call Black and Drew and ask Bob why they don't take calls on Spider Sportsline?
They really should just stop soliciting calls.
They really should just stop soliciting calls.
Well here's how. As I have said two rights as a U.S. citizen are freedom of speech and freedom of press. The Sportsline won't take my call as it did yesterday and also won't read my text question or if they do they rearrange it to the point that it doesn't even ask what I wanted it to. I get that they may not like critical questions but at least let me ask and if Mooney doesn't want to answer, well then that's his right.
If you have a constitutional right to ask a question do you think you are also entitled to make a statement?
Do you think that you could ask Mooney an explicit question about child pornography?
Are there any restrictions or limitations on what you might ask?
Do you think that you might have a naive understanding of the First Amendment?
Yes there are some limitations but what I was going to ask would not have violated any such limitation. All I know is that this program is a dictatorship and I am becoming more and more convinced every day. We as fans deserve a voice. We are the ones buying tickets (well not so much now), we are the ones buying merchandise, donating money, and making other sacrifices in support of this failing regime. Because of this we deserve to be heard. I won't take being shut down from speaking my mind by the snowflakes that run UR athletics. All of us should have the same attitude.
you misunderstand what rights are and aren't afforded you under the Constitution. but you're not alone. I really wish this was taught better at the high school level.
A quick lesson:
The U.S. Constitution guarantees you rights in relation to the U.S. government.
Therefore, yes, the first amendment protects your freedom of speech and the freedom of press, but it is freedom from government oppression/censorship.
Private citizens and private businesses are more than welcome to censor you all they want. (See: Your previous ban from this board not being a violation of your 1st amendment rights).
There is case law supporting the theory of a private company acting as a pseudo government figure, but I’m sure you weren’t implying said precedence in relation to UofR or the radio station. If you were, you’ve read the case law incorrectly.
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They do but I must admit not very well. The lady I had that taught it did a very bad job and was very biased.
All talk of the constitution aside can we all agree that UR basketball is a dictatorship? Clearly Mooney isn't going anywhere and I'm starting to understand why more and more. There is no ability given to fans to criticize the regime. I have heard of other programs that have talk shows where you can call in and be critical of things and your calls and texts won't be censored nearly as much as they are at UR. The leadership instead forces us to accept the status quo and keep spending our hard earned money, and time but producing no results. Perhaps the most serious and biggest example of UR basketball as a dictatorship is the fact that if you do publicly criticize Mooney you are labeled as a bad fan and attempting to sabatoge the program by people on here, and people that work for the AD department. I have heard of several examples of UR employees stalking online profiles of certain individuals that have been critical of Mooney. To me that is embarrassing and utterly laughable that first off the school thinks that fans can really sabatoge the program, and secondly that they are that thin skinned. There is only one way to solve this divisiveness that exists in our fan base and between us and the school and that is to fire Mooney. Unfortunately with this dictatorship of a athletic department I don't see that happening for the foreseeable future.
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BSH - perhaps you were "not on board" when a fan was forced to relinquish his sign that was considered to be critical of "Fly the Coop"? Agree you have First Amendment "rights" in the public sphere - "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." UR has the ability as a private entity to control the content of a call-in show concerning their basketball program.
It may be their right to censor what the want and control content on their show but all it does is just show how soft they are. Any real basketball program would allow criticism.
I can't possibly like this quote any more. Like times infinity.
Part of me wants to not blame BSH for being so misinformed, but then I remember all of his posts and can't let him off the hook. It is absolutely mentally retarded to think that the U.S. Constitution affords you the right to have your call into a sports talk show be permitted on the air without restriction.
You'd put every call screener for every talk show out of a job.
As misinformed as BSH might be on constitutional rights, the essence of his post is spot on why I quit listening to the show, quit spending my money on bb tickets, quit donating to anything UR and every day getting closer to not giving a flying crap about venturing onto campus in the future. I'm about to put UR on spam alert so the constant begging for donations and please buy these tickets will stop. Fire Mooney and all will be forgiven.
Oh wow! Connections made!! Look at that! Tech.
The concern of UR being a dictatorship.... Well... I mean... Yeah... Of course it is. Do you think Roy Williams was hired at UNC via crowdsourcing? Gregg Marshall hired via election? Each of these schools, like UR, and ALL OTHER UNIVERSITIES, has an athletic director who is responsible for these things, and that AD reports to a president directly, and a board of trustees indirectly, and sometimes they get their comeuppance when donations go down, and ticket sales go down.
Our voice is through our wallets. Nothing more, nothing less. Perhaps bad press will hurt the school, but there has been bad press for much more significant things than "a men's basketball coach who's a good man but who's just not very good at coaching anymore (or maybe ever)" over the past couple years, and it seems not to have been hurt badly in the least.
The concern of UR being a dictatorship.... Well... I mean... Yeah... Of course it is. Do you think Roy Williams was hired at UNC via crowdsourcing? Gregg Marshall hired via election? Each of these schools, like UR, and ALL OTHER UNIVERSITIES, has an athletic director who is responsible for these things, and that AD reports to a president directly, and a board of trustees indirectly, and sometimes they get their comeuppance when donations go down, and ticket sales go down.
Our voice is through our wallets. Nothing more, nothing less. Perhaps bad press will hurt the school, but there has been bad press for much more significant things than "a men's basketball coach who's a good man but who's just not very good at coaching anymore (or maybe ever)" over the past couple years, and it seems not to have been hurt badly in the least.
I'm ready for the show to make a mild format change. Insert a new primary guest and first caller.
I'm not sure you understand what I'm recommending.
Black and Drew have been very good about receiving calls from fans. Try calling there.
With respect to Spider Sportsline, it’s intended purpose is just to casually talk about our most recent game and what’s coming up next. Don’t expect to get much out of it.
no coach in the country is going to sit down week after week and take badgering from angry fans, BSH. you should call in and get your point out there on Black and Drew. just don't bring up the Constitution.
This. I was going to just let this thread go, but man. There are not a bunch of "real basketball programs" out there having open mic night for their fans to pepper their coach. Coaches' shows are usually scripted and any questions are screened in advance. I'd be fine with it if SSL just dropped the charade of wanting callers.
Also, please tell us more about the hard earned money you've invested in the program, BSH.
I have bought only a few tickets and merchandise items myself. I am speaking more to the majority of UR fans.
Look. I think we can all agree that Chris Mooney not only is a bad coach but also is a Communist who hates America and all it stands for.
Thanks for the great laugh - I mean it is almost - but not quite - as much fun as playing with my 2 year old grandson who comes out with some "utterances" that I can't understand at first but when I finally figure them out leave me in stitches. One that he says when he doesn't want to do something is "Later"....when of course he has no intention of ever doing what he is requested to do. Perhaps, maybe, that answer has some application to this thread?
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